Montana state playoff game

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Originally Posted by scottietohottie

Are the bobcats planning on playing 4 quarters or at they quitting after 3 like the last time we met them in the playoffs?

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I haven't been able to prove this, but I was at that game, and if I remember correctly....we had THREE completed passes that game. Our O Line was MURDERING people....DJ McNorton was running wide open in the 4th quarter. With NO passing game. It was epic. Our fans are yelling...WE ARE GOING TO RUN THE BALL, YOU CANNOT STOP THIS. Billy was a Freshman I think. We dominated. Fun night was had!

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Originally Posted by Mr. Burgundy

I haven't been able to prove this, but I was at that game, and if I remember correctly....we had THREE completed passes that game. Our O Line was MURDERING people....DJ McNorton was running wide open in the 4th quarter. With NO passing game. It was epic. Our fans are yelling...WE ARE GOING TO RUN THE BALL, YOU CANNOT STOP THIS. Billy was a Freshman I think. We dominated. Fun night was had!

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I miss the days of ‘here’s what we are going to do. See if you can stop it’. I also miss LSD. (No, not the drug)

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Originally Posted by Mr. Burgundy

I haven't been able to prove this, but I was at that game, and if I remember correctly....we had THREE completed passes that game. Our O Line was MURDERING people....DJ McNorton was running wide open in the 4th quarter. With NO passing game. It was epic. Our fans are yelling...WE ARE GOING TO RUN THE BALL, YOU CANNOT STOP THIS. Billy was a Freshman I think. We dominated. Fun night was had!

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Rushed for 376 yards on 46 carries. DJ had 209 yards.

Passed for 56 yards, 5-19 with 1 int.

https://stats.gobison.com/fb/2010/ndsufb13.htm#GAME.TEM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Burgundy

I haven't been able to prove this, but I was at that game, and if I remember correctly....we had THREE completed passes that game. Our O Line was MURDERING people....DJ McNorton was running wide open in the 4th quarter. With NO passing game. It was epic. Our fans are yelling...WE ARE GOING TO RUN THE BALL, YOU CANNOT STOP THIS. Billy was a Freshman I think. We dominated. Fun night was had!

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Yep, guys beside me were talking shit all first half, they left pretty early in the 3rd.

At about 4:30 in the second quarter they shifted into their "delta" formation with 3 backs around the quarterback, twin receivers to the left. Both receivers have to be on the LOS for the formation to be legal and it sure looked like the inside guy was off...not called. And apparently it was a MVFC crew :facepalm:

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Originally Posted by CelticCat

I agree with this assessment. We don't quite have the horses yet to beat a team like NDSU at their own game. We've won the 4th quarter in all of our wins, but haven't been able to do it consistently. However a sign of a mentally and physically strong team is that they get better as the year progresses and we certainly have. We are getting better.

The fact that we lost our 2 year starting QB after spring ball to academic issues, our starting MLB for the season in fall camp, one of our starting RBs from last year for most of the season (only returning RB with significant carries), a transfer RB/FB who had been playing well especially in the blocking game to a career ending injury part way through the season, converted a LB/RB hybrid to QB in summer who can't really throw (although he is getting a lot better), our starting slot WR partway through the year to a season ending injury, had a pro-style QB play well in a few OOC games then break his foot in practice when he was ready to take over for Andersen leaving only a true freshman to backup Andersen, the fact that we made the playoffs to me is a testament to the program Choate is building. Most teams have these kinds of things, to varying degrees, but only programs with a solid culture and depth can overcome them. No we aren't world beaters this year but I really think next year is going to be a pretty big step for the program.

Not counting guys out for the year, against UIW we were missing our starting blocking TE, both our starting corners, and both our DTs played very limited snaps. We were down about 5 of the starters that were crucial pieces to our November run. And we were still able to win by 21 points, albeit against a team who was also without their star QB. Our OL did struggle with their team speed and size initially but it became clear as the game wore on that we were the better conditioned team and ending up imposing our will by the 4th quarter.

But to circle back to your post, we are a team that is gutting out wins, finding ways to win ugly, and part if that is just being more physical and tougher than our opponents. We won't have that on our side on Saturday, and I think we are going to have a really hard time moving the ball, and a hard time stopping the NDSU run game.

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It's pretty easy to see what you guys are trying to build. It just takes time. .... That monster running back that went out early in the season with a knee issue. that would be a huge difference maker right there.

I think that this game is going to be a great learning experience for your team and help them buy into what your coach is selling.

If he's smart he'll make sure the entire Administration is down in Fargo checking it out.

Would also be a good move to try and schedule ndsu. Too many on your side look to see what the Grizz are doing.... Yeah, I get that but if I were the cat's I'd be mimicking NDSU. I think your coach understands that, not sure if your fan base or the administration get it though

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Originally Posted by Mr. Burgundy

I haven't been able to prove this, but I was at that game, and if I remember correctly....we had THREE completed passes that game. Our O Line was MURDERING people....DJ McNorton was running wide open in the 4th quarter. With NO passing game. It was epic. Our fans are yelling...WE ARE GOING TO RUN THE BALL, YOU CANNOT STOP THIS. Billy was a Freshman I think. We dominated. Fun night was had!

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I recall Jensen getting hurt and Mohler playing most of not all the second have.

Anyway, Anderson is not Strevler 2.0. He is basically their #1 running back. He can pass, but not like Strevler, not even close. A lot of Strevler’s runs/yards came on scrambles or him just taking off on a pass play when he saw open lanes. That’s not the deal with Anderson. He is not a dropback passer—Cats don’t really have that game.


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Originally Posted by BisonLaw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gC9whtk58s

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I really like Choate. I had never heard him talk before but it seems like he is doing things the right way. A couple things I found interesting. Choate says Stick is comparable to Kellen Moore but is a better athlete and has a stronger arm. That's pretty high praise considering how good Moore was in college and that he played for awhile in the NFL(as a backup). He also said Jabril Cox would start on any team in the nation and he used Notre Dame as an example but I think he truly meant any team.

Looking at Montana State's schedule, 6 of their 8 wins have came at home which seems like bad news for them coming to the fargodome.

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Originally Posted by CAS4127

I recall Jensen getting hurt and Mohler playing most of not all the second have.

Anyway, Anderson is not Strevler 2.0. He is basically their #1 running back. He can pass, but not like Strevler, not even close. A lot of Strevler’s runs/yards came on scrambles or him just taking off on a pass play when he saw open lanes. That’s not the deal with Anderson. He is not a dropback passer—Cats don’t really have that game.


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Think more like Jerrick McKinnon or Jaybo Shaw. Didn't they have a separate passing QB come in on some situations? I know McKinnon did. That Youyoute kid.

Watching the UIW MSU game. They have no speed. Our d line will be in their backfield all game. If they run this option scheme this slow against us Cox and Marlette will knock their QB out of the game. Easton will carve these guys up like the proverbial knife through butter. UIW is bad, and this was a game into the fourth quarter.

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Originally Posted by Vet70

My sense is that what we are going to see is a mid-level Valley team.

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Oh no, don't say that. You may hurt some pussycat fan's feelings.

Don't you know, they deserve respect and we should show humility. :facepalm:

This map will be pretty cool after the game:

https://twitter.com/ncaa_fcs/status/1067503963753320450


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Originally Posted by CAS4127

This map will be pretty cool after the game:

https://twitter.com/ncaa_fcs/status/1067503963753320450


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Map is silly, don't they know Bison Nation owns Texas?

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Originally Posted by LITTLEGUYSINGREEN

Oh no, don't say that. You may hurt some pussycat fan's feelings.

Don't you know, they deserve respect and we should show humility. :facepalm:

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I thought that was giving them respect.

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Originally Posted by oldmantutters

Map is silly, don't they know Bison Nation owns Texas?

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Give it time.

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Originally Posted by CelticCat

I agree with this assessment. We don't quite have the horses yet to beat a team like NDSU at their own game. We've won the 4th quarter in all of our wins, but haven't been able to do it consistently. However a sign of a mentally and physically strong team is that they get better as the year progresses and we certainly have. We are getting better.

The fact that we lost our 2 year starting QB after spring ball to academic issues, our starting MLB for the season in fall camp, one of our starting RBs from last year for most of the season (only returning RB with significant carries), a transfer RB/FB who had been playing well especially in the blocking game to a career ending injury part way through the season, converted a LB/RB hybrid to QB in summer who can't really throw (although he is getting a lot better), our starting slot WR partway through the year to a season ending injury, had a pro-style QB play well in a few OOC games then break his foot in practice when he was ready to take over for Andersen leaving only a true freshman to backup Andersen, the fact that we made the playoffs to me is a testament to the program Choate is building. Most teams have these kinds of things, to varying degrees, but only programs with a solid culture and depth can overcome them. No we aren't world beaters this year but I really think next year is going to be a pretty big step for the program.

Not counting guys out for the year, against UIW we were missing our starting blocking TE, both our starting corners, and both our DTs played very limited snaps. We were down about 5 of the starters that were crucial pieces to our November run. And we were still able to win by 21 points, albeit against a team who was also without their star QB. Our OL did struggle with their team speed and size initially but it became clear as the game wore on that we were the better conditioned team and ending up imposing our will by the 4th quarter.

But to circle back to your post, we are a team that is gutting out wins, finding ways to win ugly, and part if that is just being more physical and tougher than our opponents. We won't have that on our side on Saturday, and I think we are going to have a really hard time moving the ball, and a hard time stopping the NDSU run game.

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Thanks for the football talk!
Will any of the players who missed Incarnate Word due to injury be back?
The Bison may get starting CB Jalen Allison back, if not sophomore Josh Hayes has starting experience - NDSU lost both CB’s to injury in last years’ semi-finals, so Hayes’ 1st start was in the NC Game against James Madison.
I thought the Cats would do well in the 2nd and 4th quarters against UIW due to MSU’s altitude (about 5000’), so your guys will breathe easier here in Fargo (1000’)......to begin with......:)

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Originally Posted by CAS4127

I recall Jensen getting hurt and Mohler playing most of not all the second have.

Anyway, Anderson is not Strevler 2.0. He is basically their #1 running back. He can pass, but not like Strevler, not even close. A lot of Strevler’s runs/yards came on scrambles or him just taking off on a pass play when he saw open lanes. That’s not the deal with Anderson. He is not a dropback passer—Cats don’t really have that game.


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Exactly, he's a running back that chucks the ball up and your secondary will pick off at least 2 on Saturday.

Anderson is a good player but he isn't even the best player/athlete on his own team. He will be the 3rd or 4th best athlete on the field in Fargo.

Stick, Bruce A, Cox are all better athletes

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Like CAS said earlier they are fairly predictable about what and where they are running. Anderson's designed runs are always to the TE/strong side, sometimes they shift or send a TE in motion but it is still pretty obvious. He had success on a couple jump-ball deep passes but other than that his drop back game is non existent. He's a bad passer under pressure (especially) but obviously he can scramble away. Seems like a good plan to rush with the front 4 and just have a LB spy Anderson and prevent him from taking off.

On offense I think the cats challenge us in the run game early on and send blitzes/shoot gaps and try to make something happen(can't say I blame them). I wouldn't be surprised if the TEs burn them on play action more than once and force the safeties to back up and the run game opens up by the second half. They are a scrappy team and I like the way they play, and I like how they are going against the grain of the good ol' big skirt conference.

Wow! Alpha, the man, the myth the legend. Slumming it as a bandwagon Bizon fan over here after being banished from all chatrooms in Montana, eh?

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Originally Posted by Counter Assault

Wow! Alpha, the man, the myth the legend. Slumming it as a bandwagon Bizon fan over here after being banished from all chatrooms in Montana, eh?

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This is only about the tenth time this has been mentioned. New material would be appreciated.

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Originally Posted by Vet70

This is only about the tenth time this has been mentioned. New material would be appreciated.

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The funny part is we can't tell if it's a Griz or a Cat poster.

I will politely disagree with AG1's assessment of Troy Andersen. While the NDSU defense overall might shut us down, he is an elite athlete with competitive "intangibles." He is big, fast and is a gamer. On nearly every run this year where he got one or two steps, no secondary defender in the Big Sky conference he played could catch him. He was a two time 100 meter high school sprint champion. His passing game under the new OC Matt Miller (Boise State WR) has improved each game for the last four games.

At the end of the day, I do think we are likely getting stomped up in Fargo, Southern Manitoba. The breadth and depth of talent will be too much for the Cats. Troy will likely make a couple big time plays, but we are just over-matched.

Alright, carry on with your nightly cow milking!

That must have been 25 pages ago, I'm new to the cow tipping party over here.

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Originally Posted by Vet70

This is only about the tenth time this has been mentioned. New material would be appreciated.

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They don't have anything else to talk about....... They know what's coming on Saturday

They know

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Originally Posted by Counter Assault

I will politely disagree with AG1's assessment of Troy Andersen. While the NDSU defense overall might shut us down, he is an elite athlete with competitive "intangibles." He is big, fast and is a gamer. On nearly every run this year where he got one or two steps, no secondary defender in the Big Sky conference he played could catch him. He was a two time 100 meter high school sprint champion. His passing game under the new OC Matt Miller (Boise State WR) has improved each game for the last four games.

At the end of the day, I do think we are likely getting stomped up in Fargo, Southern Manitoba. The breadth and depth of talent will be too much for the Cats. Troy will likely make a couple big time plays, but we are just over-matched.

Alright, carry on with your nightly cow milking!

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I’m excited to see how Troy matches up with the Bison D and more generally how the Bobcats match up with the Bison.

But, if N.D. is southern Manitoba then by extension isn’t MT just southern Saskatchewan? (FYI - there is beauty EVERYWHERE). Please advise.


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Re: AG1. Instead of Bye Felicia. Well, Hi Felicia, I guess.

No, Montana is actually cool and we pronounce couch like "couch" and not "cooch." So it was kept in the United States. It was the cooch part that got ND annexed into Canada.

You are a special kind of stupid.

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Originally Posted by Counter Assault

No, Montana is actually cool and we pronounce couch like "couch" and not "cooch." So it was kept in the United States. It was the cooch part that got ND annexed into Canada.

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and by we you mean you, Ted Turner, and the Unabomber, right?

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Originally Posted by Counter Assault

No, Montana is actually cool and we pronounce couch like "couch" and not "cooch." So it was kept in the United States. It was the cooch part that got ND annexed into Canada.

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I hate to break it to you, but all the North Dakotans telling you they crashed on your mother's cooch last night were articulating correctly

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Originally Posted by MCBison-05

I hate to break it to you, but all the North Dakotans telling you they crashed on your mother's cooch last night were articulating correctly

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The Unibomber's buddy Algore invented the internet.

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Originally Posted by Counter Assault

Re: AG1. Instead of Bye Felicia. Well, Hi Felicia, I guess.

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Get the facts jagoff and quit fucking up their board.

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He must have crawled back under his rock.

Bottom line is Jerrick McKinnon couldn't get it done in the Fargo Doom, and that Georgia Southern team is light years ahead of this cat team.

McKinnon is a much more explosive player than Anderson ever will be.

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Originally Posted by ALPHAGRIZ1

Bottom line is Jerrick McKinnon couldn't get it done in the Fargo Doom, and that Georgia Southern team is light years ahead of this cat team.

McKinnon is a much more explosive player than Anderson ever will be.

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hmm, i think he played in the NFL right????

David Johnson of UNI, rings a bell as a pretty good player...where is he at these days that's right the NFL? we managed him a couple times


but from what Im hearing this LB turned QB is going to shred us..lol

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Originally Posted by tjbison

hmm, i think he played in the NFL right????

David Johnson of UNI, rings a bell as a pretty good player...where is he at these days that's right the NFL? we managed him a couple times


but from what Im hearing this LB turned QB is going to shred us..lol

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Also, teams traditionally have a pretty shitty time their first swing through the dome. This won't be any different.

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Originally Posted by tjbison

hmm, i think he played in the NFL right????

David Johnson of UNI, rings a bell as a pretty good player...where is he at these days that's right the NFL? we managed him a couple times


but from what Im hearing this LB turned QB is going to shred us..lol

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Yep and Anderson probably won't ever play in the NFL unless he does at LB and that's a big if.

I'm always honest with those guys about their team and they hate the truth. BTW I picked the cats to beat the Griz this year and it won't surprise me if they do it again next year we suck balls.

Griz are a horrible team and we had to fumble the game away at the 1 to get the cats in the playoffs. Neither team deserved to be in the playoffs and they will find out the hard way this weekend.


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Originally Posted by tjbison

but from what Im hearing this LB turned QB is going to shred us..lol

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The defenders in the Big Sky can't catch him though!

Anderson is very fast and tough as nails. He would be one hell of a good FB/TE in our system. Don’t kid yourself ... he will get some yards against us. Solid football player who just does not quit. And I mean no disrespect for him as a QB for Cats, cuz they are doing what they have to with what they have available.

He isn’t Easton Stick tho, and I hope the Cats appreciate Easton after this game. The best player in the FCS, bar none.


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