A new and better FBS thread

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Originally Posted by Professorbum

You know that I'm in your Amen Corner most of the time. But we're not getting into the current MWC. We're just not. If they only have a couple slots to fill, they ain't taking an FCS team. And if they have a ton of slots to fill in order to survive and we get in, it would no longer be the same MWC that would garner automatic respect as the best G5. I would, of course, take it at that point. But if we are going to be the best team in a depleted conference, we might as well do CUSA now and start the FBS era forthwith rather than wait for the MWC to implode later.

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When Boise and SDSU go, who will they backfill with if not us?

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Originally Posted by NDSU92

Of course it is. But there IS a path now for G5 schools. Multiple even.

Facilities? Check
Athletic budget? Check
Playoff system? Check
FCOA? Check
(Would still like to get NIL at NDSU figured out) Not check

It’s time, we can figure out NIL on the way there

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Yeah it's time. It's going to be CUSA time.

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Originally Posted by NDSU92

When Boise and SDSU go, who will they backfill with if not us?

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Likely nobody..

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Originally Posted by MWC

Likely nobody..

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Yeah i know what youve been saying, I just don’t see it. Every other conference is getting bigger and loading up and the mountain west is going to be happy with getting smaller?

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Originally Posted by daddy daycare

Yeah it's time. It's going to be CUSA time.

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That's the death of bison football as we know it.

No media coverage/deal, crap opponents, and no CFP access will come out of that.
Unless we just buy the damn conference and boot them all out.

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Originally Posted by daddy daycare

Yeah it's time. It's going to be CUSA time.

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At this point, whatever. If it makes sense to pull the trigger for football only CUSA or whatever just make it happen. I’m in the get us to FBS and let’s see how it all shakes out camp. Waiting for Boise and SDSU and maybe more to move might take a lifetime.

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Originally Posted by NDSU92

Yeah i know what youve been saying, I just don’t see it. Every other conference is getting bigger and loading up and the mountain west is going to be happy with getting smaller?

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I think MWC is going to be a legit possibility in the next 1-2 years.
We still haven't seen the fallout of the PAC moves yet, and there could be more pending.

It would be foolish to strap ourselves to some other garbage, when this is just taking shape.

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Originally Posted by NDSU92

Yeah i know what youve been saying, I just don’t see it. Every other conference is getting bigger and loading up and the mountain west is going to be happy with getting smaller?

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The 12 team playoff changes the equation for the P5. They already get 5 guaranteed slots and likely most of the at large spots. Adding G5 schools is not all that important unless they are in big cities..

Neither Boise or SDSU is going to do a sideways move to another G5 because of the large exit fees. Maybe, the Pac 12 or the B12 adds San Diego to get Socal exposure but Boise is not the same population wise.

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Originally Posted by daddy daycare

I have no idea why MWC would want NDSU at the moment.

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So you're back to the same tired argument. The good conferences don't want us and you don't want a weak conference. That leaves FCS Forever for you, since according to you there's no other path.

You can always know with you, it will the same point of view every time.

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Originally Posted by NDSU92

When Boise and SDSU go, who will they backfill with if not us?

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I think they'd take UTEP for one. Possibly Texas State to pair with them. Or maybe try to pull Tulsa over. Even NMSU gets the nod before us. I know NMSU sucks in football, but they would help the conf in BB and be an easy partner for UTEP. I just don't think they will look to FCS unless they have no FBS options.

If they do dip into FCS, they'll pull MSU and U of M before us. Or maybe Idaho. Idaho is a state with a growing population. If they lose Boise, maybe Idaho (as a recent FBS school who begrudgingly dropped down to FCS) becomes more attractive if they promise to make some investments.

If the MWC was interested in the many positive things that NDSU could bring (winning tradition, positive revenue, national interest, strong fan support, solidly run athletics dept with fundraising ability, R1 university status), we'd already have been invited. But they are not. They are interested in mountains, and/or Texas, and/or Calif. That's it. That's what is important to them.