A new and better FBS thread

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Originally Posted by loudsilverado

Do you remember the city of Fargo tax payers turning down the FFD a few times?????

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yes, i do but the FFD wasn't built for NDSU athletics. We are just a tenant. Again, what does that "example" have to do with our state Legislature?

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Originally Posted by bisonaudit

Also, you can't put up a new building without approval from Bismarck even if you raise all the money yourself.

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agreed. When exactly did the legislature stand in the way? didn't they set up the parameters for approval and once we met those the building was approved?

i don't recall the legislature getting in the way when we decided to move to D1 from D2.

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Originally Posted by NDSUguy

this is all based on the idea that somehow the G5 doesn't lock us out. The assumption is that there will absolutely be a way to move up IF there is a shakeup in FBS college football. What if the G5 works their own deals with the media, creates their own playoffs and chooses NOT to allow NDSU to join due to geography or something else. In that scenario, NDSU is 3rd tier football with no hope. That scenario might not be all that likely but it COULD happen. If we were to make the jump now, at least we'd be at the table instead of relying on other conferences to elevate us to the G5 conferences later down the road.

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Really? You should write novels. The G5 is NOTHING by itself. Even if they could work out a media deal, wouldn't that same media want to ensure the largest and most attractive pool of contestants? You know who the G5 Conferences are and what schools are included don't you? Hopefully, you also understand that, while the NCAA doesn't directly have control over the BCS Conferences (including the G5) with regard to football, they do carry a pretty big stick when it comes to all of the other sports (think Basketball). In short, the G5 doesn't hold any cards when it comes to influence. Right now, they are just riding along hoping for a few crumbs to drop like a lapdog sitting by my recliner.

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Originally Posted by NDSUguy

yes, i do but the FFD wasn't built for NDSU athletics. We are just a tenant. Again, what does that "example" have to do with our state Legislature?

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With the state of higher ed in this state, building a new stadium has everything to do with the state legislature and city of fargo.

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Originally Posted by NorthernBison

Really? You should write novels. The G5 is NOTHING by itself. Even if they could work out a media deal, wouldn't that same media want to ensure the largest and most attractive pool of contestants? You know who the G5 Conferences are and what schools are included don't you? Hopefully, you also understand that, while the NCAA doesn't directly have control over the BCS Conferences (including the G5) with regard to football, they do carry a pretty big stick when it comes to all of the other sports (think Basketball). In short, the G5 doesn't hold any cards when it comes to influence. Right now, they are just riding along hoping for a few crumbs to drop like a lapdog sitting by my recliner.

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The G5 is basically nothing now.

Based on the assumption that the P5 will break away and the G5 will be left in the dust, it is completely possible that they could stick with the teams/conferences that they have. The NCAA could force the move of the top parts of the FCS up to the G5 level however there is NO guarantee of that.

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Originally Posted by loudsilverado

With the state of higher ed in this state, building a new stadium has everything to do with the state legislature and city of fargo.

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I can see how the state board of higher ed could have some influence IF the money came from the state's coffers however if the stadium was built without any state money they can complain but would not be able to do anything about it.

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Originally Posted by NDSUguy

i don't recall the legislature getting in the way when we decided to move to D1 from D2.

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That was before two Presidential residences went way over budget and only one of them got much media attention.

I can just imagine the hypocritical Sturm und Drang if NDSU announced plans to build a 25,000 seat indoor football stadium for $500 million with it's own pipe organ imported from Austria, mahogany arm rests, the largest HD video board between Minneapolis and Seattle, and 100 snorty bison logos inlayed on tri-color marble concourses imported from Italy.

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Originally Posted by bisonaudit

That was before two Presidential residences when way over budget and only one of them got much media attention.

I can just imagine the hypocritical Sturm und Drang if NDSU announced plans to build a 25,000 seat indoor football stadium for $500 million with it's own pipe organ imported from Austria, mahogany arm rests, the largest HD video board between Minneapolis and Seattle, and 100 snorty bison logos inlayed on tri-color marble concourses imported from Italy.

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i guess it depends on who if footing the bill.

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Originally Posted by NDSUguy

i guess it depends on who if footing the bill.

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That was definitely the case last time. But 70 miles makes a difference. Also, they were wrong to let that guy walk all over them just because he had a lot of money. His people made public statements about the nickname that the University was trying to retire in 2000 that were in direct contravention to his initial agreement with UND and he was so brazen in his hostage taking of the State Board of Higher Education that it's precipitated the current crisis with Carlson and his legislative power grab. Finally, it didn't seem to matter with the residence that none of the money was theirs.