A new and better FBS thread

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Originally Posted by taper

Be careful what you wish for. They would without any doubt have picked UND to be the flagship. In that case UND is probably still D2 because only hockey matters.

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A single university North Dakota would be very different because that single school wouldn't be on the Red River is my guess. (Not in Grand Forks and the Warroad/Roseau hockey influence never materializes.)

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Originally Posted by ByeSonBusiness

Oh what could have been had the Dakotas done the right thing and had one main state school each. Probably could've been in the Big 8 back in the day.

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That might have been great for sports but I think that the original disbursement of higher education has, over time, provided the state with an uncommon legacy of smartness throughout a deeply rural part of the country. Even though the model doesn't necessarily fit with a 2022 world, that disbursement was visionary before having cars was common.

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Originally Posted by MWC

I do not think they will lose 4 schools. P5 conferences are not clamoring to add a bunch of MW schools. The very large exit fees puts a severe damper on schools going to some other G5 conference.

I think SDSU is very attractive and will get P5. Other schools, not so much. 12 is not the golden number. 10 works. 9 is the absolute perfect size for football. 8 game schedule, 4 on the road,4 at home true round robin.

11 schools is awkward but workable. No need to get to 12..

I know some here are hoping the MW gets gutted so they have to come begging for schools to join..That just seems wildly unlikely.

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Colorado State and a rivalry with Colorado has appeal. They suck now but if they can get Pac12/Big 12 money

P5 expansion has little to do with rivalries.

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Originally Posted by taper

Be careful what you wish for. They would without any doubt have picked UND to be the flagship. In that case UND is probably still D2 because only hockey matters.

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Of course und would still be D2. They had a whole bunch of narrow mined people in administration as well as a few fans that were "D2 Forever". Those people today look like complete idiots for holding UND back when they should have moved up a lot sooner. It's too bad NDSU has the same problem with certain people today using the same argument. You might know some of those people. But then maybe you don't recognize them.

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Originally Posted by NDSU1980

Of course und would still be D2. They had a whole bunch of narrow mined people in administration as well as a few fans that were "D2 Forever". Those people today look like complete idiots for holding UND back when they should have moved up a lot sooner. It's too bad NDSU has the same problem with certain people today using the same argument. You might know some of those people. But then maybe you don't recognize them.

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I had hoped we were past this, but for millionth time, this fabled FCS Forever cabal Does. Not. Exist. Don't hide behind allegories, if you think I'm FCS Forever not only have you not read my posts but you have little to no understanding of the college athletics landscape. Trying to understand the reasons no FBS conference has looked at us in no way means I'm opposed to a jump.

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Originally Posted by MWC

I would say there is a zero percent chance the MW will add any schools, even if 2 leave until 2026*. I would put it as a 10 percent chance that they would add after that. The conference is not imploding..They have lived through defections before.

They have 12 members now but big is not necessarily better.

They would add if it got down to 8 football and 7 OLY sports. They did that when Boise and SDSU left before. If the same two schools leave now, as described in the above scenario, the MW would still have 10 and 9. That is a perfectly viable number.

The current tv deal represents less than 10 percent of the revenue for almost all the MW schools. I think the new deal negotiated in 2026 would likely be about the same pay out per school because it is based more on PST slots than it is on population.

I believe all FBS conferences will take their football out of the NCAA.

* The MW would add Oregon State and Washing ton State immediately in the unlikely event they are available.

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You've made it very clear the MW is unlikely to add any schools from your viewpoint. I am curious why you're so engaged in this discussion then? It seems odd how much time you've spent reading and responding to posts about a school that, in your view, will most likely never even be in your conference.

Boredom..This is the realignment season on message boards..I am interested in the NDSU story, though

https://www.espn.com/college-footbal...rators-respond

Still a ton up in the air. The only real consensus in this survey is that some portion of FBS will split from the NCAA. All of it or just the P2 looks about 50/50. There also seems to be the opinion that D1 CFB needs it’s own boss. Guessing that excludes FCS

https://www.espn.com/college-footbal...tentially-2025

Funny how this guy flipped his script …

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Originally Posted by taper

I had hoped we were past this, but for millionth time, this fabled FCS Forever cabal Does. Not. Exist. Don't hide behind allegories, if you think I'm FCS Forever not only have you not read my posts but you have little to no understanding of the college athletics landscape. Trying to understand the reasons no FBS conference has looked at us in no way means I'm opposed to a jump.

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Bingo....FCS Forever label comes out when people are looking for the right fit, not just jump at the first whore that takes NDSU.