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Washington State new coach Rolovich..
Rolovich doesn’t have the same social media following as his WSU predecessor, but he’s just as active on Twitter as Leach, if not more so. The coach’s latest tweet? A poll, in which @NickRolovich posed a thought to fans while watching North Dakota State versus James Madison in the FCS title game, “Not sure if I’m more in love with this Qb play in the FCS championship or the woodchuck commercial.”
I hope we never go FBS just to deprive joy to certain people who think we are entitled.
hurt the program or hold back the program because of our silent majority ? Do'h k. great fan you are.Quote:
Originally Posted by aces1180
Why don't you just send an email to Matt & Dean offering to meet them and show them the way. Post the email here and include it with your letter to the editor of the Forum and Star Tribune. Maybe add your local Battle Lake or Breckenridge papers as well if they still exist. Should be easy since you have all the answers. Don't forget to include a rendering of the new stadium and the financials which are kind of important.Quote:
Originally Posted by El_Chapo
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Make the FCS Great Again (MFGA)
During the FBS conversations there has been one main thread between both camps... Most everyone unhappy with the competition level in the FCS. The Pro-FCS camp loves to win National Titles with the notion that those titles matter. The Pro-FBS crowd will say that they don't matter since the FCS is watered down and most of the games don't matter (also known as the wake me up when you get to Frisco crowd).
One of the rallying cries of the Pro-FCS crowd is that the FCS as a whole just needs to get better. What practically can be done to make the FCS great again? Also, is this something that the FCS actually wants to do?
In my estimation, only about 5-10 schools in the FCS have football as their primary sport where they choose to fund up to the highest levels to compete and win.
With the other schools in the FCS that are not full steam ahead in football, do we ever expect that they get better? Do we think that the fringe competitive teams will somehow find the way to get better with more funding (and potentially taking away money from other more lucrative sports)?
These are all questions that we should be asking ourselves.
If we choose to not explore the FBS and stay in the FCS do we honestly think that the competition will get better or will it get worse?
IF we choose to set our sights higher it will cost a lot more but the competition that we'd face would 100% be better than it is now.
Is it more likely that the FCS will get better or that we could figure out a funding source to try our hand at the FBS?
IMO you are making a mistake at the outset that a number of posters make including the one leading the charge who thinks he has all the answers. That is reducing those who do not see a move as feasible now to an Anti-FBS or FCS forever stance.
In no way am i suggesting that the camp that you are in today is the same one that you may be in the future. The reality though is that where we are today is virtually the same spot we were in 5 years ago. There are 3-5 teams each year that realistically play for a championship in today's world. Does anyone think that in 5 years the competition will get better? What about 10 years? What makes anyone think that the FCS will find the money/resources to fund to the level to increase the number of challengers that actually have a chance at a Natty?Quote:
Originally Posted by Vet70
If the competition doesn't get better??? Then what? It's ok to be a shark in a pond filled with minnows?
If so, then i would suggest that we reduce the football budget and fund other sports (specifically Men's/Women's Basketball). No reason to spend at our current level if without really trying we could be a top 5 team annually. Much more bang for the buck to fund for example men's basketball than football.
I am on board with this.Quote:
Originally Posted by westnodak93bison
The fact is NDSU is caught between a rock and a hard place in the current environment. I am not going to list everything because it has been discussed ad naseum. I will say that the suggestion that you have made will happen at NDSU when pigs fly. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by NDSUguy
I think that you and I are probably in the same camp here. The problem with staying is the level of competition. The problem with moving up is that at the FBS level there are probably more teams at the start of the year that could feasibly win the Championship. But that number dwindles down to about same number of teams who could win FBS as could win FCS. This was probably the least controversial year as to who the 4 semifinal teams would be and Oklahoma showed there were really only 3 teams that belonged in the conversation. Minnesota finished in the top 10, do you think they would've fared well?Quote:
Originally Posted by NDSUguy
Our administration is saying the right things even though it's not the whole truth. They can say that NDSU is and belongs at the second level and they TECHNICALLY are. Realistically they are in the third tier (G5). The second tier, FOR ME, is appealing for 3 reasons.
1. Face new teams (including more P5 games).
2. More competitive games.
3. Bowl games don't do much for me but there are a few locations that could be fun (NY6 games withstanding, but it's doubtful NDSU gets an invite to any of those).
Ideally, NDSU would be able to work with some G5 schools with football as a main sport to start driving some change. Get together with some TV people, G5 ADs and push for some change in football. It'd be a HUUUUGE mountain to climb, but it could be done. Might be more doable to get the P5s on board to grenade the NCAA in P5 football.
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sad thing is, some of the anti fbs crowd will be cheering for a NDSU loss soon so they can keep that narrative going.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vet70
it became very clear in playoffs this year and vs sub par teams at home, the fargodome had lots of empty seats, people already know the outcomes, NDSU has plateaued We CANNOT do anything more in FCS! that is the problem.
IF we are unwilling to even look at FBS (which is what Dean/Matt are telling us)
then the only way to right this potential sinking ship is to gather NDSU, JMU, UNI, SDSU, Youngstown, Montana, Montana State, Missouri State and make a coalition/committee to go after the G5 conferences and convince them to break off..... they will never break off.
and trust me, Dean & Matt know my thoughts, the 38,000 semi enclosed on campus stadium with 4 big donors is probably the most appealing, $50 million each, they each get a corner of stadium for marketing, they get suites. Raise the other $100 million and Voila... lets go and keep every dime to NDSU.
You're the one with the boner about all of our best players leaving early.Quote:
Originally Posted by El_Chapo
They're working hard to get one "big" donor to get the remaining dollars needed (less than 10 million I believe) for the IPF, but you realistically believe there are four "big" donors ready to drop $50 million dollars each? The frat boy partying into your 40s really did a lot of damage to your brain cells dude.Quote:
Originally Posted by El_Chapo
Yep. I think most fans would like to see a jump to FBS. Some of us just believe that that is a bridge too far right now for NDSU given the amount of money it would take, the limited resources available, the need for a new stadium, the state level politics that would be involved, and the unavailability of a good conference fit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vet70
I'm willing to listen to ideas, but so far none of them are grounded in reality. If it's done, it needs to be done right, and personally I have not seen that path.
Boise State is mad with MWC TV contract https://twitter.com/BJRains/status/1...609881088?s=09
If Boise St leaves for AAC or goes indy like BYU.
HELLO NDSU to the Mountain west!
Better call the bank and order more checksQuote:
Originally Posted by El_Chapo
YeahQuote:
Originally Posted by El_Chapo
Tell be why they would want to help out some FCS teams? One of the reasons we havent gotten an invite is because nobody wants to keep cutting up the revenue
pie. They keep getting paid to be the red headed step child to the P5. You think they are going to break off because of us????
Damn dude this isnt rocket science.
we all need to keep an eye on this boise state situation.. could be a great opportunity for NDSU here
Agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by bisonp
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Originally Posted by bisonp
Yep................
You know what would peak my interest--a conference worth a damn actually being interested to us.
Mountain West would be a huge step up from western Illinois und indiana state. give me a break.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bison bison
big 10 never.
big 12.. Maybe if we had a 50,000 seat stadium
Lakes, is there any FBS offer you say no thanks to?
Major announcement monday morning. I got the text. Either that or I've had too much alcohol.
probably the sun belt. Appy St & Georgia Southern would be fun to rekindle and JMU if they went there. but no thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by natstar1
the MAC is interesting, but from what I see none of those schools want NDSU walking in and Dominating Day 1
Roadwarrior cant wait!!
AAAAND HERE WE GO! BOISE to AAC..NDSU to MWC
Following disagreements with the Mountain West regarding media deals, Boise State has now filed a lawsuit against its conference. https://t.co/Yv7TJ6i8kz
Bison Alumnus, Gary Barta, is the new chair of the CFP Committee: https://www.espn.com/college-footbal...arta-new-chair
It's happening??
American wants Boise.. this gives Boise a way outQuote:
Originally Posted by MNLonghorn10
Enter NDSU like McMahon from WWF walking down the hallway
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I do think that Boise is leaving the MWC one way or another. But unfortunately, I don't believe that will translate to an NDSU invite. Despite having higher average attendance than half of the MWC (even in our small stadium) and despite traveling better than any of them, the MWC will look to a Texas school or possibly NMSU. We just haven't laid any of the groundwork or done any of the lobbying necessary for such an invitation to come.Quote:
Originally Posted by El_Chapo
Well if you believe comment-section rumors, NDSU already turned down the MWC, so there’s that (I don't believe this of course, as comment sections are typically quite full of BS ...).
However, there is one scenario that I think people need to keep in the back of their minds, and that would be forces in FCS trying to "even the playing" field by taking scholarships away from perennial powers like NDSU. NCAA runs the show (in FCS anyways) so it is not entirely out of the question, and I’ve seen grumbling to this effect on other FCS fan forums (looking at you Bobcats).
In my opinion, if something like this ever gains momentum, NDSU has to GTFO of FCS ASAP. That’s just my opinion, of course.
I know we all like shitting on MACtion and the Slumbelt. IMO I think that's the only way we get an invite and move up. Only way MWC or American would come calling NDSU is after being established and doing well in the MAC or Sunbelt.
Agreed. First thing is to get your foot in the door.Quote:
Originally Posted by marenlee
Can't believe I am letting myself get pulled into this but if that is the case it's a necessity that the initial deal with one of those leagues doesn't handcuff us for too long. 3-5 years and outQuote:
Originally Posted by Hammersmith
Also agreed.Quote:
Originally Posted by TAILG8R
DING DING DING!! that's why i been screaming for the last 5 years. we shouldve been doing this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Professorbum
To compare apples to apples in the bottom of the barrel comparison is New Mexico and San Jose State really better than WIU and ISU-B for curb appeal????????Quote:
Originally Posted by El_Chapo
This is the MWC boner your going to hang your hat on?????? :rolleyes:
How are you so certain "ground work" has not been done?Quote:
Originally Posted by El_Chapo
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The pres and the AD have told us as much on many occasions.Quote:
Originally Posted by westnodak93bison
I think maybe people hear what they want to hear.Quote:
Originally Posted by Professorbum