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natstar1
I mean with the fan base. Did they sell more season tickets? Is there more interest in the team in those respective communities?
has to be. research it after Frisco I will
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El_Chapo
absolutely, Nationally for sure. They get on every scoreboard like ESPN Sportscenter and on the tickers at bottom of the screens, fcs never gets that.
Never? I see NDSU on the ticker a lot...
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Mr Stony Brook AD on KFGO at 9:15am
"are you too big for fcs? why not FBS"
so Matt Larson MOVES THE GOALPOSTS AGAIN.. yet another BS excuse.
he says "We feel that moving up would hurt our other sports programs" 1st TIME I'VE HEARD HIM USE THAT EXCUSE.
such a joke, face facts, Matt and Dean don't want to do the work or have the balls to do it. It's easy to just keep going thru the motions that gene taylor and joe chapman set up. That's awfully obvious at this point.
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Frisco Mayor just said "NDSU coming down brings $10 million in Economic impact"
Sooo there's an extra $10 Million that NDSU should get every year
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El_Chapo
Frisco Mayor just said "NDSU coming down brings $10 million in Economic impact"
Sooo there's an extra $10 Million that NDSU should get every year
That's not how that works at all
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ByeSonBusiness
That's not how that works at all
well, if NDSU fans have $10 million to spend on frisco, send it over to NDSU instead to fund the FBS move.
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ByeSonBusiness
That's not how that works at all
Talk about picking at something and twisting it to fit your narrative.
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El_Chapo
well, if NDSU fans have $10 million to spend on frisco, send it over to NDSU instead to fund the FBS move.
Um impact of $10 million doesn't mean NDSU fans are spending $10 million just in frisco, whole trip possibly but that's not all occurring directly in Frisco..... figuring 17,000 (assuming at least 3,000 people are somewhat local or just giveaways whatever, not to mention some of these probably are JMU fans). That means all 17,000 (1 year old or 99 years old) of those people spending $588.25. Which for a family of 4 is $2,353. I don't think we're discretionary spending that much IN Frisco, I'm sure a few groups get up that high especially the ones that spend 4+ days there in the area. But not every single fan. There are so many that go down for the game get one night hotel maybe 2 and go right back home so a hotel room and maybe a couple meals.
Impacts are based on money we spend making it into local's pockets (increased wages for extra hours, and tips etc) that they then turn around and spend partially in Frisco as well. I believe that's how "economic" impacts are figured. Maybe economists here can set me straight.
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Maybe you should send more than $100.
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El_Chapo
well, if NDSU fans have $10 million to spend on frisco, send it over to NDSU instead to fund the FBS move.
So you want every group that is going to the game to spend that money on donations to NDSU? Then who is going to travel to the FBS games/bowl games if they are spending all that money just for NDSU to have the chance to play in those games?
I'm about as pro FBS as I think one can reasonably be, but this way of looking at raising the money seems very short sighted and wayyy oversimplified
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ByeSonBusiness
So you want every group that is going to the game to spend that money on donations to NDSU? Then who is going to travel to the FBS games/bowl games if they are spending all that money just for NDSU to have the chance to play in those games?
I'm about as pro FBS as I think one can reasonably be, but this way of looking at raising the money seems very short sighted and wayyy oversimplified
it's kinda tongue and cheek. but face it. the money is out there. just need to get it
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Originally Posted by
ByeSonBusiness
So you want every group that is going to the game to spend that money on donations to NDSU? Then who is going to travel to the FBS games/bowl games if they are spending all that money just for NDSU to have the chance to play in those games?
I'm about as pro FBS as I think one can reasonably be, but this way of looking at raising the money seems very short sighted and wayyy oversimplified
I’m confused, cuz I’m in Frisco, been at every major NDSU bar, etc. and have yet to see the Amazing Lakes, even during the BFPA gathering at Twin Peaks, when Stick, Stark, and Emanuel presented. I figured Lakes was their agent and was spending and earning tons of money down here.
But, alas, he’s a no-show.
Go figure, as in, everyone else spend money, but not me from my trust fund, cuz that goes to me. Me, Me, Me!!
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CAS4127
I’m confused, cuz I’m in Frisco, been at every major NDSU bar, etc. and have yet to see the Amazing Lakes, even during the BFPA gathering at Twin Peaks, when Stick, Stark, and Emanuel presented. I figured Lakes was their agent and was spending and earning tons of money down here.
But, alas, he’s a no-show.
Go figure, as in, everyone else spend money, but not me from my trust fund, cuz that goes to me. Me, Me, Me!!
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Cuz myself and quite a bit of NDSU fans are bored with frisco, we DON"T belong in the FCS and this weather in freakin Dallas is yet another reason.
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CAS4127
I’m confused, cuz I’m in Frisco, been at every major NDSU bar, etc. and have yet to see the Amazing Lakes, even during the BFPA gathering at Twin Peaks, when Stick, Stark, and Emanuel presented. I figured Lakes was their agent and was spending and earning tons of money down here.
But, alas, he’s a no-show.
Go figure, as in, everyone else spend money, but not me from my trust fund, cuz that goes to me. Me, Me, Me!!
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He was too busy trying to figure out where Carson Wentz was. Rumor has it he was spotted in Houston window peeping and had to be bailed out of jail.
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2011BisonAlumni
He was too busy trying to figure out where Carson Wentz was. Rumor has it he was spotted in Houston window peeping and had to be bailed out of jail.
But I saw a guy in a gophers jacket on tv?
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Wentz was visiting Waldo.
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Vet70
Wentz was visiting Waldo.
Wrong. He was in Houston meeting with oil executives to find a $300M on campus stadium in order to move up to the FBS.
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EVERY SINGLE FACEBOOK/TWITTER post by ESPN, NCAA, ABC, College Sports was DOMINATED by
"Why the hell isnt NDSU FBS?" It was literally every other post on ESPN facebook page.
The WHole Sporting community see's it, why can't our admin?
128 - 8 8 titles.
are we really gonna "trophy chase" for next 10 years and be 250-14 and 16 titles?
Dean is close to retirement and Matt is happy to be here, neither of those 2 have any passion or incentive to move NDSU up and that's sad.
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El_Chapo
EVERY SINGLE FACEBOOK/TWITTER post by ESPN, NCAA, ABC, College Sports was DOMINATED by
"Why the hell isnt NDSU FBS?" It was literally every other post on ESPN facebook page.
The WHole Sporting community see's it, why can't our admin?
128 - 8 8 titles.
are we really gonna "trophy chase" for next 10 years and be 250-14 and 16 titles?
Dean is close to retirement and Matt is happy to be here, neither of those 2 have any passion or incentive to move NDSU up and that's sad.
The translation of this lie is that many of Sammy’s social media aliases posted all over the place today.
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El_Chapo
EVERY SINGLE FACEBOOK/TWITTER post by ESPN, NCAA, ABC, College Sports was DOMINATED by
"Why the hell isnt NDSU FBS?" It was literally every other post on ESPN facebook page.
The WHole Sporting community see's it, why can't our admin?
128 - 8 8 titles.
are we really gonna "trophy chase" for next 10 years and be 250-14 and 16 titles?
Dean is close to retirement and Matt is happy to be here, neither of those 2 have any passion or incentive to move NDSU up and that's sad.
Their is no viable financial path with our micro tv market. If it's so easy then lay out your plan, no less than 10 single spaced pages, 8 font & no fluff. You are obviously a salesman with all the bs you spew. Put forth your plan, sell it and maybe you will get a life sized statue in front of your stadium.
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I've tried. Too many crabs pulling down on the legs in the bucket.. that's all you are.
NDSU deserves better, NDSU can be Bigger than ANY OF YOU can even Imagine!!
Yet here you are....You are satisfied with "longshanks FCS scraps" You're Missing NDSU's God Given Right to a TOP 25 Ranking, to a January 1 Bowl Game! a College Football Playoff when they expand to 8 in 2 years.
https://i1.wp.com/www.psychspot.org/...93%2C615&ssl=1
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El_Chapo
I've tried. Too many crabs pulling down on the legs in the bucket.. that's all you are.
NDSU deserves better, NDSU can be Bigger than ANY OF YOU can even Imagine!!
Yet here you are....You are satisfied with "longshanks FCS scraps" You're Missing NDSU's God Given Right to a TOP 25 Ranking, to a January 1 Bowl Game! a College Football Playoff when they expand to 8 in 2 years.
https://i1.wp.com/www.psychspot.org/...93%2C615&ssl=1
The important bit here is the “not real life” part.
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El_Chapo
I've tried. Too many crabs pulling down on the legs in the bucket.. that's all you are.
NDSU deserves better, NDSU can be Bigger than ANY OF YOU can even Imagine!!
Yet here you are....You are satisfied with "longshanks FCS scraps" You're Missing NDSU's God Given Right to a TOP 25 Ranking, to a January 1 Bowl Game! a College Football Playoff when they expand to 8 in 2 years.
https://i1.wp.com/www.psychspot.org/...93%2C615&ssl=1
Whining isn’t equal to trying.
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Member at the end of braveheart when he gets his guts cut out and yells FBSssssssssss! ?
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Originally Posted by
El_Chapo
EVERY SINGLE FACEBOOK/TWITTER post by ESPN, NCAA, ABC, College Sports was DOMINATED by
"Why the hell isnt NDSU FBS?" It was literally every other post on ESPN facebook page.
The WHole Sporting community see's it, why can't our admin?
128 - 8 8 titles.
are we really gonna "trophy chase" for next 10 years and be 250-14 and 16 titles?
Dean is close to retirement and Matt is happy to be here, neither of those 2 have any passion or incentive to move NDSU up and that's sad.
Why don't you ask them why FBS has a fucking 4 team playoff? Why the fuck does the FBS want a bunch of stupid ass bowls with participation trophies rather then a real playoff system??
My personal favorite was some dumbass saying how App State has moved up to FBS and regularly dominates the Sunbelch conference. Big fucking deal nobody fucking hears a god damn thing about App State anymore and nobody fucking cares either!
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bisonaudit
The important bit here is the “not real life” part.
Nah... Let him go.. I used to find it annoying but his material is starting to get more entertaining.
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I don't think anybody has ever disputed that this program is good enough to go FBS. I'd love to see it. There is a good chance attendance is going to continue to drop off because interesting games have been very few and far between. The students have stopped coming. The atmosphere isn't what it once was. How many people want to pay $40+ per ticket to watch thrashing after thrashing? This problem is only going to get worse if this team gets as good as we all expect it to after this "rebuilding" year.
That said, I have yet to hear a viable plan. People like to pull ideas and numbers out of their butts. Show me how you will get it to work with a stadium, finances, state support, and conference. I've asked this several times and have yet to hear that. Until then, you're just pissing in the wind.
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Mountain West signs $270 million 6 year TV deal .
Beginning with the 2020 season, CBS Sports will have rights to Boise State away games and*Fox*will own the rights to the Broncos’ home games. Games could air on CBS, Fox, CBS Sports Network, FS1 or FS2.
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Boise State football has appeared on an ESPN-affiliated channel 119 times since 1999. The Broncos likely won’t be on ESPN at least until a potential bowl game in 2020, because*the only nonconference road game is at Marshall, whose conference doesn’t have a deal with ESPN, either.
The contract is for six years, and Mountain West Commissioner Craig Thompson said it’s worth $270 million, but he declined to break down how the money will be distributed to the conference’s 11 full-time members (Hawaii is a football-only member). Boise State will continue to receive the same additional revenue it received in the previous deal, Thompson said.
so those of you who say NDSU needs to add $10 mil/year well. heres $6 mil/year
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El_Chapo
Mountain West signs $270 million 6 year TV deal .
Beginning with the 2020 season, CBS Sports will have rights to Boise State away games and*Fox*will own the rights to the Broncos’ home games. Games could air on CBS, Fox, CBS Sports Network, FS1 or FS2.
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Boise State football has appeared on an ESPN-affiliated channel 119 times since 1999. The Broncos likely won’t be on ESPN at least until a potential bowl game in 2020, because*the only nonconference road game is at Marshall, whose conference doesn’t have a deal with ESPN, either.
The contract is for six years, and Mountain West Commissioner Craig Thompson said it’s worth $270 million, but he declined to break down how the money will be distributed to the conference’s 11 full-time members (Hawaii is a football-only member). Boise State will continue to receive the same additional revenue it received in the previous deal, Thompson said.
so those of you who say NDSU needs to add $10 mil/year well. heres $6 mil/year
Has the MWC offered to give NDSU 6 mill to join? NO. They arent cutting up their piece of the pie. Now go back to waving your unmagic wand and try to pull the rabblt out of the hat again.
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https://247sports.com/college/north-...ion-133770261/
This is the bottom line------
Now back comes reality – NDSU does not have a conference invite. There is no indication NDSU is on the radar of any FBS conference, and NDSU seems fine with that. It should be, because there are not many opportunities in FBS that give Bison football an unquestioned upgrade on its current position of primacy in FCS. While the Bison pull in less revenue in terms of bulk dollars, there is far more bang for the buck in FCS than in most of the Group of Five. The fact of the matter is, NDSU has broad autonomy and a perennial national championship contender at the FCS level. Surrendering that autonomy for anything that isn’t a massive, sweeping upgrade is a bad trade for Bison football.
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56BISON73
https://247sports.com/college/north-...ion-133770261/
This is the bottom line------
Now back comes reality – NDSU does not have a conference invite. There is no indication NDSU is on the radar of any FBS conference, and NDSU seems fine with that. It should be, because there are not many opportunities in FBS that give Bison football an unquestioned upgrade on its current position of primacy in FCS. While the Bison pull in less revenue in terms of bulk dollars, there is far more bang for the buck in FCS than in most of the Group of Five. The fact of the matter is, NDSU has broad autonomy and a perennial national championship contender at the FCS level.
Surrendering that autonomy for anything that isn’t a massive, sweeping upgrade is a bad trade for Bison football.
You already know what good this is going to accomplish. :banghead:
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Vet70
You already know what good this is going to accomplish. :banghead:
don't care what ross uglem says out FBS, he like you, loves being big fish in a small pond
Dean won't solicit even a dam phone call to Mountain West
Matt Larson surely won't do anything that would require a challenge.
that's the bottom line. THESE 2 WONT PICK UP THE PHONE & NDSU will Never Fulfill it's right to become a Big Time FBS program.
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El_Chapo
don't care what ross uglem says out FBS, he like you, loves being big fish in a small pond
Dean won't solicit even a dam phone call to Mountain West
Matt Larson surely won't do anything that would require a challenge.
that's the bottom line. THESE 2 WONT PICK UP THE PHONE & NDSU will Never Fulfill it's right to become a Big Time FBS program.
Fulfill its right? Really? No title t-shirts in the weight room but we're entitled to FBS?
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bisonaudit
Fulfill its right? Really? No title t-shirts in the weight room but we're entitled to FBS?
Look it up: "Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of FBS".
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Vet70
Look it up: "Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of FBS".
dam right. isnt' 128 - 8 and 8 titles enough to prove that NDSU is too big for FCS?
NDSU should've left in 2013 when we really had momentum and Carson Wentz coming back, we'd be a freakin powerhouse perennial top 25 team by now in 2020.
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El_Chapo
dam right. isnt' 128 - 8 and 8 titles enough to prove that NDSU is too big for FCS?
NDSU should've left in 2013 when we really had momentum and Carson Wentz coming back, we'd be a freakin powerhouse perennial top 25 team by now in 2020.
How does NDSU "leave" in 2013 (you keep refusing to answer this question legitimately, meaning you ignore to understand how the real world works)? And if it had a possible way of doing so, Carson's future as a NFL player could have been jeopardize being that NDSU would have been under a transition period, which means no playoffs, no Championships games and most likely, no bowl game during his tenure as a Bison QB.
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Odell Beckham Jr. raises eyebrows after he appears to hand cash to LSU players after game
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/odell...sh-lsu-players
#highestlevel
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Christopher Moen
How does NDSU "leave" in 2013 (you keep refusing to answer this question legitimately, meaning you ignore to understand how the real world works)? And if it had a possible way of doing so, Carson's future as a NFL player could have been jeopardize being that NDSU would have been under a transition period, which means no playoffs, no Championships games and most likely, no bowl game during his tenure as a Bison QB.
It seems interesting that we need to move up to find more competitive games, but in all the FBS scenarios we still kick the crap out everyone and are easily a top 25 team.
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westnodak93bison
Those bills look fake to me. I mean, I'm no expert, but the backsides are white.