A new and better FBS thread

People bitched and moaned about the Great West once upon a time. We made that work and ended up the kings of the best conference in the division.

Just do it again with the CUSA who cares? It's a temporary move to justify a better position. We have to pay our dues. This is how we do it.

Make it happen Lakes.

Food for thought:

I'd love to see head-to-head series today between the MAC and the MVFC.

Seeds/games would be based on final Massey Ratings (all DI CFB) from 2021, namely:

NDSU 42 vs CMU 82
SDSU 81 vs WMU 83
UNI 101 vs NIU 93
Mo St 105 vs Toledo 95
SIU 108 vs Miami 99
USD 111 vs Ball St 109
UND 119 vs Kent 113
YSU 145 vs EMU 118
Ill St 149 vs Buffalo 129
Ind St 160 vs Ohio 141
WIU 168 vs BGSU 151
Murray St 186 vs Akron 179

Murray State isn't MVFC quite yet, but I needed a 12th team.

The Sagarin ranking comparisons are similar (MVFC vs MAC):

NDSU 38 vs CMU 69
SDSU 71 vs WMU 72
UNI 99 vs Toledo 80
MO St 103 vs Miami 87
SIU 109 vs NIU 93
USD 117 vs Ball St 104
UND 119 vs EMU 107
YSU 143 vs Kent 108
Ill St 158 vs Buffalo 125
Ind St 169 vs Ohio 132
WIU 179 vs BGSU 153
Murray St 191 vs Akron 181

The MVFC right now is the "western MAC", without the FBS label (and revenues and expenses).

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Originally Posted by NDSUguy

Right now the only G5 that may be considering/open to FCS members is the CUSA. While i'm not a huge fan of the schools in that conference, at the end of the day they can say that the are FBS and in the G5. Now, if a big change happens and there is a breakaway and the G5 starts to reorganized at least we'd be in the conversation. The G5 however would not need any more schools (as stated earlier). They can do whatever playoff system they like with their 60 or so teams. They will NOT need any FCS teams.

In this scenario, NDSU would then be at a point of begging to try to get into the G5. At that point, I hope we're not turned down to forever be in the FCS.

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I see the opposite. When the split happens the NCAA will be in charge of the tournament. All these other G5 schools can claim they would have fan support when tournament time but NDSU has proven they do. NDSU brings in revenue for NCAA. So when the split happens the NCAA will let NDSU drive whatever train they want into the new tier. Wanna start a new conference NDSU. Go ahead. Wanna go independent, go ahead. Want us to pressure the MWC to let you join, we got this.

Just cause most of our fans are fat, ugly and desperate for attention it doesn’t mean the program has to act the same way. They have a vision that most of you refuse to see.

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Originally Posted by SamsRams

So when the split happens the NCAA will let NDSU drive whatever train they want into the new tier.

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The masters of micromanagement will allow a school to set the mark? Call me doubtful.

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Originally Posted by SamsRams

I see the opposite. When the split happens the NCAA will be in charge of the tournament. All these other G5 schools can claim they would have fan support when tournament time but NDSU has proven they do. NDSU brings in revenue for NCAA. So when the split happens the NCAA will let NDSU drive whatever train they want into the new tier. Wanna start a new conference NDSU. Go ahead. Wanna go independent, go ahead. Want us to pressure the MWC to let you join, we got this.

Just cause most of our fans are fat, ugly and desperate for attention it doesn’t mean the program has to act the same way. They have a vision that most of you refuse to see.

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You may want to add delusional to the list of NDSU fan attributes.

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Originally Posted by NDSUguy

Right now the only G5 that may be considering/open to FCS members is the CUSA. While i'm not a huge fan of the schools in that conference, at the end of the day they can say that the are FBS and in the G5. Now, if a big change happens and there is a breakaway and the G5 starts to reorganized at least we'd be in the conversation. The G5 however would not need any more schools (as stated earlier). They can do whatever playoff system they like with their 60 or so teams. They will NOT need any FCS teams.

In this scenario, NDSU would then be at a point of begging to try to get into the G5. At that point, I hope we're not turned down to forever be in the FCS.

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Moving to the CUSA in it's current state is the desperation I refer too. SHSU is going to be no better off than NDSU when the shit hits the fan.

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Originally Posted by daddy daycare

Moving to the CUSA in it's current state is the desperation I refer too. SHSU is going to be no better off than NDSU when the shit hits the fan.

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You might be right, but that's because SHSU has so much further to climb. When the shit hits the fan, NDSU in the CUSA is better off than SHSU in the CUSA and better off than NDSU in FCS.

But I also acknowledge the point is moot. We're not going to the CUSA. We missed that boat. It may well have been only a dinghy compared to most other FBS conferences, but we are sitting on a deflating inner tube right now.

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Originally Posted by SamsRams

I see the opposite. When the split happens the NCAA will be in charge of the tournament. All these other G5 schools can claim they would have fan support when tournament time but NDSU has proven they do. NDSU brings in revenue for NCAA. So when the split happens the NCAA will let NDSU drive whatever train they want into the new tier. Wanna start a new conference NDSU. Go ahead. Wanna go independent, go ahead. Want us to pressure the MWC to let you join, we got this.

Just cause most of our fans are fat, ugly and desperate for attention it doesn’t mean the program has to act the same way. They have a vision that most of you refuse to see.

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^ Who the hell is this guy? Hey guy (I'll just call you "John", as in John Doe), with this "vision" that the program has, do you think they see their fan base as "fat, ugly, and desperate"?

here we goooooo

https://twitter.com/CFBONFOX/status/...V5BpfPgTEebsww

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Originally Posted by El_Chapo

here we goooooo

https://twitter.com/CFBONFOX/status/...V5BpfPgTEebsww

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Whaddya think chaps? Big 12 here we come?