psh. I was asked a dozen or so times with my NDSU hat on at Gophers weekend. "why the hell isnt NDSU FBS and Dominating somewhere"
if you are FBS you're viewed as a bigger program. period.
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psh. I was asked a dozen or so times with my NDSU hat on at Gophers weekend. "why the hell isnt NDSU FBS and Dominating somewhere"
if you are FBS you're viewed as a bigger program. period.
As if anyone here gives a shit about a gopher fan's perspective on college football.Quote:
Originally Posted by El_Chapo
Are you taking a poll in Grand Forks next?
no they arent FBSQuote:
Originally Posted by bisonaudit
Aren't they? Looking at the last 55 Rose Bowl's who could tell?Quote:
Originally Posted by El_Chapo
I was answering your 2nd questionQuote:
Originally Posted by bisonaudit
1st FBS BOWL GAME ANNOUNCEMENT:
Charlotte vs Buffalo Bahamas Bowl Dec 20.
can you imagine 20,000 NDSU fans in the Bahamas for a week!!
dam thatd be dope as hell
The Bahamas bowl probably has the attendance of a junior high game. I love me some Bowl season, but the Bahamas bowl is one of the worse.
READ THIS then change my mind..this sounds epicQuote:
Originally Posted by marenlee
https://www.reddit.com/r/CFB/comment...tent=post_body
https://twitter.com/RedditCFB/status...668337664?s=19
"walking into the stadium in flip flops and a 12 pack of bid light"
they played sandstorm 3 times at start of the game. hahaha
So do the FCS playoff games. The crowd, such that it was, in the SEMO vs Ill State game was pathetic. Were there even 100 people there? Ah...championship football at its best.Quote:
Originally Posted by marenlee
Drop to 16 teams. Eliminate Thanksgiving weekend games. Seed all teams and no more regionalization.Quote:
Originally Posted by Professorbum
Not happening. With 10 autobids NCAA rules require a Field of at least 20.Quote:
Originally Posted by EC8CH
Remove autobids from non scholly conferences and change stupid rules.Quote:
Originally Posted by bisonaudit
New stadium and a visiting Boise State couldn't get butts into seats this past weekend at Fort Collins.
https://www.cuatthegame.com/wp-conte...tate-crowd.jpg
Attendance isn't just a FCS problem.
Were these people telling you ndsu should go fbs the same people who weren't cheering on 1st and second down while the goophs was on defense? And if so did it ever cross your mind that maybe they don't know what the hell they're talking about? Im moving on now. Playoffs baby. Go Bison!Quote:
Originally Posted by El_Chapo
No way, I like watching San Diego plow through the Big Sky in the playoffs. It was unfortunate that they were in NDSU's bracket those two years, would have been fun to see how far they would have gone in another bracket. I was hoping they'd pull it off against UNI this year, to heck with conference pride.Quote:
Originally Posted by EC8CH
True. But Colorado State is 4-8. SEMO is a playoff team. If CSU were playing for a MWC divisional title, or anything else meaningful, they'd have more in attendance. So what's SEMO's excuse, other than that their own students and alums find nothing interesting about FCS?Quote:
Originally Posted by Christopher Moen
You mean people don't want to show up to a lame duck coaches last game after what has been a horrendously bad season with nothing but boring and badly coached football to watch? For reference to a very similar scenario, please visit this thread. http://www.bisonville.com/forum/show...-Ground/page82Quote:
Originally Posted by Christopher Moen
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Originally Posted by Professorbum
No, this isn't just about FCS playoffs and your guys' issue with being bored with Bison success. It's also about the what is seen every week at probably most G5 schools. All the talk about moving up and getting a new stadium isn't going to make you guys any happier if you're bored now with greatness. I see this with both G5 schools in my area.Quote:
Originally Posted by AKBison
But are those G5 schools in your area successful? I think we would sustain fan interest in the G5 much like Boise or Appalachian State. And I sincerely think we would be a really good team year in and year out. By the way, I’m not trying to be argumentative. I think you have a very good point about fan support in many G5 schools. Even in some power five schools, it’s a problem. But it tends not to be a problem at successful FBS schools, while at the FCS level, even successful schools garner little interest, with 2 or 3 schools being the exception.
As a fan of NDSU basketball, I am all for letting conference champions into the post-season playoffs, even if they don't have a chance to win the title.Quote:
Originally Posted by EC8CH
I agree with this. If they aren't eligible for getting into the post-season, what are they playing for? Participation trophy? Fan entertainment?Quote:
Originally Posted by JMB
There has to be a goal for competition for thrive, and that goal is winning a national championship, or at least the chance to compete for it.
NDSU has a snowball's chance in hell to win March Madness. But that has never stopped the fans, team, cheer team, pep band, or Athletic Department, from trying and or cheering the entire way up to elimination. Look at the selection show parties we've had in the last decade, people show up and cheer loudly when we draw the team who will probably eliminate us within the week.
Since Fisher DeBerry took over in 1983, USAFA has been fairly successful. Usually competes well with Boise State (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb...p_id=air-force). However, they along with Colorado State, Wyoming and the two New Mexico schools, get little fanfare in this part of the Rocky Mountains. G5 is nothing but college football purgatory. Anyone wishing to be at this level has no idea how terrible of a place it is to be. The grass is pretty brown on this side.Quote:
Originally Posted by Professorbum
Charlotte is excited for Bahamas Bowl!
https://twitter.com/CharlotteFTBL/st...247920640?s=09
How are we supposed to get the tailgating rigs to the Bahamas? Does the Frisco Cruiser have pontoons?Quote:
Originally Posted by El_Chapo
Do you want NDSU to go FBS???
First step towards that is completing the IPF. Currently there's a fund raiser going on for Giving Day called the Armbrust Family Challenge where if 100 people donate towards the IPF (minimum is $25) they will donate $50,000 towards the project. Currently they need 33 more donors. Great opportunity to support an imitative that is crucial towards any FBS move.
NDSU 2.0 is off to Arizona Bowl
NDSU 3.0 is off to Liberty Bowl
You can't tell me NDSU couldn't be right there with those 2!!!
Boise St is at the Las Vegas Bowl.
Just got off the phone with my son who went to school at Wyoming. I had to sit and listen to him yap about the Arizona Bowl. He asked if the wife and I were going to it. I said, "Why would I want to go to some minor junk Bowl game?." At which point he became rather indignant and started to sound like some of the arguments (albeit good natured) I have had with Sam! Honestly, I preffer all these playoff games and the title game in Frisco to the No Name Bowl tha Wyoming is playing in. I am sure that this playoff schedule is a hell of a lot rougher on the players, especially going all the way to the Championship every year, but for the fans, it is one hell of a kick!
https://www.impacttrophies.co.uk/con...on-trophy.jpeg
Here's your participation trophy FBS.
Well, most of the FBS. Well, those good enough to win 6 games and get a bowl invite. Well, actually everyone except the 4 in the "playoffs". Well, actually its more of a playoff, rather then playoffS.
I've been singing this tune for 4-5 years now.
NDSU shouldve took the momentum built up after Carson Wentz and 4-5 titles and put up a full out blitz on a FBS conference
I'm trying to keep this FBS chatter to this thread, I truly am, but the Bison Fatique thread brings up good points that we all were warned about
the new car smell wearing off, etc. Klieman & Bohl both mentioned the plateau. here we are. what can we do now?
our fanbase is becoming disinterested, theyve seen this rerun many times, I am saddened to hear that the admin hasnt heeded the warnings 3-4 years ago being sent out.
and dont move the goalposts and say. "G5 is losing attendence, bla bla" this is NDSU. we need someone with vision and the stones to motivate our fanbase.
we need to band together and quite the arguing & figure out the best path forward.
complacency is a killer
If we by chance beat Oregon next season there is nothing that anyone would say to me that would convince me that we don't belong in FBS. Nothing. You beat a team like #13 Iowa by out Iowaing Iowa and beat a probable top 10 in Oregon with as much of a brand Oregon has along with resources and money, facilities and prestige, I would be absolutely pissed if the NDSU administration doesn't hold a meeting with Matt Larson slapping down some papers on the table in front of everyone involved with FBS on the top one with a big ? and his opening line is "How do we make this happen?"
Sadly it will be closed door and nobody will know about it. I guess I'll be running around like a little girl bragging how NDSU beat Oregon.
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Originally Posted by 23Bison
Then the Big boys say----you dont. And then what?
Who are the Big boys? Administration?Quote:
Originally Posted by 56BISON73
That's what the rest of my post was saying. If it does or doesn't happen none of us will know about it so that millisecond of me being pissed will be overcome with joy for the win over Oregon. But will subconsciously know they didn't hold such a meeting and on goes life and threads such as this.
23bison NDSU has far and away shown they belong in FBS for at least 4-5 years now. win at #11 Iowa cemented what was already shown at Kansas State, Iowa State, Minnesota etc.
Media market doesn't matter by the G5 groups like we are led to believe. yea at the P5 level its all about eyeballs/population etc.
2 things are happening the last few years. #1 NDSU ADMIN HAS NOT ACTIVELY SOUGHT FBS CONFERENCE INVITES & #2 MWC/MAC deep down doesn't want NDSU walking in Day 1 and being at the top.
It doesn't take beating Oregon to prove to me that the Bison, competitively speaking, belong in the G5. I'm already convinced that that is true. There's a lot more that goes into making an FBS move than slapping papers down on a table.Quote:
Originally Posted by 23Bison
Admin hasn't actively sought invites because they don't want to move up...Bresciani has been very clear about that, over and over...Quote:
Originally Posted by El_Chapo
I would say it is more "can't afford" than "don't want".Quote:
Originally Posted by GCWaters
That’s where the conversation would start. But yes I do know this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Professor Chaos
I think the conversation has to start with the school/state and the student body. Those 2 (or 3) entities need to be behind it for an FBS move to be successful. G5 athletic budgets are funded on the backs of school funds and student fees. That's just the reality and NDSU would be no different.Quote:
Originally Posted by 23Bison
Either way, until that changes there won’t be any conversation...Quote:
Originally Posted by roadwarrior
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The legislature and vast majority of the students do not care about your football team. This is not a new situation. End shamaturism and let them play for the people who are actually interested.Quote:
Originally Posted by Professor Chaos