Welcome back HC Polasek

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Originally Posted by GreenfieldBison

Ah, let's see. More PC = Bullshit. There's no such thing. Any hire is a compromise including this one.

I learned today that back in 2018 this candidate lost the job to Matt Entz. As of 2023 will he be an improvement? Only time will tell. But "ideal"? GTFOHWT.

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If you look back I think they make the entz decision based on the fact that our defenses are the main reason we were winning. They hired Klieman when Bohl left and wanted that same success with entz as our defense was far superior to our offenses at the time. Hopefully polasek not getting the job at that time has made him much more ready as he alluded to in his presser. I think the experience he’s gained from three different fbs jobs and his passion for ndsu does make him the ideal hire.

Mark me down as VERY skeptical on this hire.

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Originally Posted by CAS4127

Mark me down as VERY skeptical on this hire.

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Why bro expand pls

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Originally Posted by GreenfieldBison

Ah, let's see. More PC = Bullshit. There's no such thing. Any hire is a compromise including this one.

I learned today that back in 2018 this candidate lost the job to Matt Entz. As of 2023 will he be an improvement? Only time will tell. But "ideal"? GTFOHWT.

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More PC? WTF are you babbling about? Entz was the slam dunk hire at the time, lead assistant for a program that was steamrolling everything in its path. TP wasn't even on the staff.

A compromise hire would be going internal to save some recruits or portal BS. This was going out and getting a guy we needed to make some changes to get us back on track again, somebody that understands where this program was when we were operating at a high level.

When I look at Polasek, striding into the team room purposely, a bit blustering in a good way, I do not see PC at all. I see a tell-it-like-it-is guy. Not the most polished guy but I don't care. He is inheriting a lot of problems and "challenges" and does not try to sugarcoat anything. That's what we need. The proof is in the pudding, of course, but I hope there is an appropriate honeymoon with Polasek.

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Originally Posted by NDSUstudent

More PC? WTF are you babbling about? Entz was the slam dunk hire at the time, lead assistant for a program that was steamrolling everything in its path. TP wasn't even on the staff.

A compromise hire would be going internal to save some recruits or portal BS. This was going out and getting a guy we needed to make some changes to get us back on track again, somebody that understands where this program was when we were operating at a high level.

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Polasek is saying all the right things right now but do you really think he knows some secret formula that Entz didn't know? If you want to go based off of past teams the best Bison teams of the last 12 years were the teams that Polasek wasn't on the staff during (2013, 2017-2019). I don't think there's any secret to how the Bison dominate... it's just a matter of executing that strategy. Maybe Polasek will be be better at that as a head coach than Entz was but only time will tell.

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Originally Posted by CAS4127

Mark me down as VERY skeptical on this hire.

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Yah. Not a fan.

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Originally Posted by NDSUstudent

This was the ideal hire, Tim gets it and can get us back to being where we expect to be.

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Why is this the ideal hire? He gets what? He can't even get offenses going in the right direction. Let me guess... he won't be calling plays... but Roehl isn't going anywhere.

I'm hoping he turns out to be a Dan Campbell-type hire. Don't know/remember enough about him to know if he has personality. He seemed better in the players speech than I was expecting based on his introductory press conference at Wyoming. I watched it this weekend and thought absolutely no way is this dude a HC at NDSU.

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Originally Posted by AlumniGreen

When I look at Polasek, striding into the team room purposely, a bit blustering in a good way, I do not see PC at all. I see a tell-it-like-it-is guy. Not the most polished guy but I don't care. He is inheriting a lot of problems and "challenges" and does not try to sugarcoat anything. That's what we need. The proof is in the pudding, of course, but I hope there is an appropriate honeymoon with Polasek.

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What problems exactly?

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Originally Posted by Professor Chaos

Polasek is saying all the right things right now but do you really think he knows some secret formula that Entz didn't know? If you want to go based off of past teams the best Bison teams of the last 12 years were the teams that Polasek wasn't on the staff during (2013, 2017-2019). I don't think there's any secret to how the Bison dominate... it's just a matter of executing that strategy. Maybe Polasek will be be better at that as a head coach than Entz was but only time will tell.

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I'm not sure Entz was all that great, he took over a machine and kind of coasted along. It seems like we have had a lot of coasting within the athletic department as a whole. Entz was in the right place at the right time though when Klieman left.

I think Polasek gets recrutiing and the portal at a much higher level, this is where the FBS experience will help. I also think he knows we need to get back to physical football and dominate in the trenches, our DL play especially this year was horrible. OL was hit and miss as well.

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Originally Posted by heckler

Why is this the ideal hire? He gets what? He can't even get offenses going in the right direction. Let me guess... he won't be calling plays... but Roehl isn't going anywhere.

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Well his shitty offense beat Iowa with a Sophmore QB, when is the last time this team beat anyone that has more talent than we do. I'll give you a hint, it hasn't happend since Klieman was here.

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Originally Posted by Professor Chaos

Polasek is saying all the right things right now but do you really think he knows some secret formula that Entz didn't know? If you want to go based off of past teams the best Bison teams of the last 12 years were the teams that Polasek wasn't on the staff during (2013, 2017-2019). I don't think there's any secret to how the Bison dominate... it's just a matter of executing that strategy. Maybe Polasek will be be better at that as a head coach than Entz was but only time will tell.

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Yep listening to his press he knows to win with physicality up front. Entz brought in a bunch of undersized d lineman that got pushed around and couldn’t generate pressure. Seems like our recruiting has been down under entz so I’d say he knows something entz didn’t.

So realistically who else could ndsu have brought in? Not some 1/1,000,000 long shot guy leaving the nfl (Cain).

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Originally Posted by Grizzled

What problems exactly?

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What do you think???
1. transfer portal.
2. Fans expectations.
3. Lower attendance.
4. Some players may have preferred Tyler.
5. Some want to go FBS.
6. And last but not least, BATHROOM SHORTAGES IN THE DOME FOR THE LADIES.

Every coach inherits problems and "challenges." I just put that in there for the hell of it.

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Originally Posted by tony

Defense and recruiting wins championships. That's where NDSU needs to improve the most. After that, special team's coverage.

Complaining about clock management and whatever this meathead garbage is supposed to be? Seriously? When NDSU can't win a game without scoring 30+ points a game, it's pretty obvious where the most improvement needs to happen. Get some new material, guys.

Also, like Ross Uglem, I have noticed that UND's OL coach has been doing a really good job... do what it takes to get that guy.

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Maybe you missed the game last Saturday. The defense held Montana to nine points. So your 30 points isnt even close.


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Originally Posted by NDSUstudent

Well his shitty offense beat Iowa with a Sophmore QB, when is the last time this team beat anyone that has more talent than we do. I'll give you a hint, it hasn't happend since Klieman was here.

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Agree. Like this hire more than Tyler. Tyler needs more experience. Like the different jobs Tim has held.

Also liked his on the portal.


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Originally Posted by NDSUstudent

Well his shitty offense beat Iowa with a Sophmore QB, when is the last time this team beat anyone that has more talent than we do. I'll give you a hint, it hasn't happend since Klieman was here.

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This is a subtly a big one for me. Bison used to beat more talented teams because and their coaches knew and admitted they got out coached. We've had good coaches here, but perhaps not the level we've had before. Arizona was winnable last year. Montana was winnable last week. UND...

Optimistic about this hire.

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Originally Posted by steelbison

Maybe you missed the game last Saturday. The defense held Montana to nine points. So your 30 points isnt even close.


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Special teams gave up 7. Montana ended with 31. Please show your work.

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Originally Posted by NDSUstudent

Well his shitty offense beat Iowa with a Sophmore QB, when is the last time this team beat anyone that has more talent than we do. I'll give you a hint, it hasn't happend since Klieman was here.

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Preaaacccchhhhh

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Originally Posted by NDSUstudent

I'm not sure Entz was all that great, he took over a machine and kind of coasted along. It seems like we have had a lot of coasting within the athletic department as a whole. Entz was in the right place at the right time though when Klieman left.

I think Polasek gets recrutiing and the portal at a much higher level, this is where the FBS experience will help. I also think he knows we need to get back to physical football and dominate in the trenches, our DL play especially this year was horrible. OL was hit and miss as well.

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Exactly Entz didnt excel himself...he was very fortunate to team he was handed

Ive felt program has regressed last two years!

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Originally Posted by bisonranch

This is a subtly a big one for me. Bison used to beat more talented teams because and their coaches knew and admitted they got out coached. We've had good coaches here, but perhaps not the level we've had before. Arizona was winnable last year. Montana was winnable last week. UND...

Optimistic about this hire.

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Correct--- lots of streaks ENDED with current staff under Entz. We didnt win many games that we werent favored in....what was ENTZ record vs SDSU????

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Originally Posted by GreenfieldBison

Special teams gave up 7. Montana ended with 31. Please show your work.

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A normal person would note that NDSU allowed 16 in regulation.

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Originally Posted by reformedUNDfan

A normal person would note that NDSU allowed 16 in regulation.

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If you would tell me that NDSU allowed 16 in regulation I would we say we won.

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Originally Posted by Kujava23

Exactly Entz didnt excel himself...he was very fortunate to team he was handed

Ive felt program has regressed last two years!

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That my exact thought as well. Klieman recruited and coached so well that many people would have had success. Once kliemans recruits were gone the downward spiral began. I believe Klieman was basically running the defense the whole time he was the hc as well and once he left they began to struggle.

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Originally Posted by reformedUNDfan

A normal person would note that NDSU allowed 16 in regulation.

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Too bad the game wasn’t over.

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Originally Posted by Bison20

That my exact thought as well. Klieman recruited and coached so well that many people would have had success. Once kliemans recruits were gone the downward spiral began. I believe Klieman was basically running the defense the whole time he was the hc as well and once he left they began to struggle.

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Technically Klieman had Bohl recruits his entire tenure here. Starting and ending with the Easton Stick class. I just looked very quickly and it seems Klieman's recruiting classes weren't that great in the trenches. (I could be wrong.)

Why does everyone have a boner over this guy cuz he "knows" the portal and "knows" NIL? Since that stuff started he was in WY... How much did they do with any of that there besides losing players to the portal?

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Originally Posted by BISONBRI53

Why does everyone have a boner over this guy cuz he "knows" the portal and "knows" NIL? Since that stuff started he was in WY... How much did they do with any of that there besides losing players to the portal?

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Yeah none of that makes sense, every coach knows NIL and the portal by now.

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Originally Posted by BISONBRI53

Why does everyone have a boner over this guy cuz he "knows" the portal and "knows" NIL? Since that stuff started he was in WY... How much did they do with any of that there besides losing players to the portal?

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Pretty much the same everywhere, outside perhaps a few P5 schools.
The way the system is now, just have to replace guys.

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Originally Posted by BISONBRI53

Why does everyone have a boner over this guy cuz he "knows" the portal and "knows" NIL? Since that stuff started he was in WY... How much did they do with any of that there besides losing players to the portal?

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Because... well... no one has a good answer yet. So far crickets.

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Originally Posted by BISONBRI53

Why does everyone have a boner over this guy cuz he "knows" the portal and "knows" NIL? Since that stuff started he was in WY... How much did they do with any of that there besides losing players to the portal?

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It didn't look like Entz was leveraging these things. Polasek as come and said we need to do a better job using the transfer portal and NIL. College football has changed and, from what Polasek has said, he sees it and is ready to utilize that change to make NDSU football better.

Looks like last year in wyoming (according to 247 Sports) they lost 15 and gained 3 from the portal.

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Originally Posted by rutlandbison

It didn't look like Entz was leveraging these things. Polasek as come and said we need to do a better job using the transfer portal and NIL. College football has changed and, from what Polasek has said, he sees it and is ready to utilize that change to make NDSU football better.

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Yeah we'll see. If we're going to all of a sudden start taking a bunch of portal players every year watch our HS recruiting take a crap. A few kids to fill gaps and fit our culture is one thing but a bunch of mercenaries will destroy what we've built.

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Originally Posted by heckler

Looks like last year in wyoming (according to 247 Sports) they lost 15 and gained 3 from the portal.

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Yup. I'm sure they did. Like I said, it's exciting that Polasek is planning to utilize the portal in a way NDSU has not yet done.

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Originally Posted by rutlandbison

Yup. I'm sure they did. Like I said, it's exciting that Polasek is planning to utilize the portal in a way NDSU has not yet done.

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I think you're reading a bit much into his comments. As I recall he said they would utilize the portal in a way that wouldn't be detrimental to the current locker room but that the primary focus would be on recruiting high school players. He also said that he'd prefer to focus on portal guys who the coaching staff has a previous relationship with. Not sure it's going to be that drastic of a change but having a collective at his back and a good network of coaches, players, and recruits around the Midwest should help him.

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Originally Posted by rutlandbison

Yup. I'm sure they did. Like I said, it's exciting that Polasek is planning to utilize the portal in a way NDSU has not yet done.

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like what? lol losing more kids? We got some kids from the portal last year?

One recruiting strategy under Klieman and Entz has been very limited offers to high school recruits. IIRC bruin has posted some numbers where NDSU has had a fraction of the offers of a lot of FBS schools in the region have. If they're looking to leverage the portal more for guys who they had previous relationships with it might be worth making more connections with high school recruits even if you don't think you've got a shot at landing them out of high school. Never know what might pay off down the road...

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Originally Posted by heckler

like what? lol losing more kids? We got some kids from the portal last year?

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We get it, you aren’t a fan of Coach P.

I guess it’s your thing to always be negative about basically everything, but seriously give it a rest. A lot don’t like Lakes, but at least he has takes that aren’t f’n negative all the time. have a take that isn’t just arguing with someone for the sake of argument.

I wasn’t the biggest fan of Entz, but it was after a few years. People can disagree, and that’s fine. I could have been completely wrong.

Can you at least give him a chance and see what he does? He said it yesterday, he’s not bring in anyone that would not fit the culture or in the locker room.

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Originally Posted by heckler

like what? lol losing more kids? We got some kids from the portal last year?

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Just to clarify. Are you saying that Wyoming lost 15 kids and gained 3 from the portal and saying that’s a reflection on Polasek? I’m genuinely curious since my brain isn’t working today.

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Originally Posted by heckler

Because... well... no one has a good answer yet. So far crickets.

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But But he loves the program...