Nah. It wasn't. It'd be better playing them every year
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Nah. It wasn't. It'd be better playing them every year
Wow, the jealousy over there is really quite telling. It was a mistake going over there and reading some of their garbage. Outside of the hockey thread, almost every topic eventually leads to bashing of the Bison, NDSU, Fargo, Cass County, etc. Even if their theories for the fluff moving to FBS come to fruition, rather than feeling a sense of satisfaction they would still be jealous of the accomplishments of the Bison, NDSU, Fargo, Cass County, etc. Ironically, all they ever try to do is replicate their big brother.Quote:
Originally Posted by 56BISON73
And, one could argue, the schools in the upper level (FBS) will be bottom feeders for the P5 and G5 conference teams......Quote:
Originally Posted by 56BISON73
Please don't go to the Sunbelch. Good lord it's the Pioneer league of FBS.
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Yes they shouldQuote:
Originally Posted by ndsubison1
Absolutely. Solid program. Solid attendance. Another good game.Quote:
Originally Posted by ndsubison1
This makes the offseason interesting.
Fargo to Las Cruces. Not quite Winnipeg to Monterey.
New Mex St is too far away not in our geographic location. They are a solid program though. I rather try to get Oakland back (which will never happen). UMKC or UND would be more logical add in our foot print for the Summit.
I think we fly to basically every game not USD or SDSU anywaysQuote:
Originally Posted by North Side
In the summit though for basketball they would have to travel to two schools a week if one of them is way out of the footprint makes for an expensive long weekend. For NDSU probably isn't a big deal if they feel they're getting something in return, a stronger conference. Other less well to do schools might not share the same sentiment.
Same reason we've all been wondering why BSC has hung with UN_. If Idaho does go back to FCS football in bsc, wonder what that does to UN_?
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Good for the retention of Denver in the leagueQuote:
Originally Posted by North Side
Absolutely. Good point.Quote:
Originally Posted by tjbison
They already have conference affiliation for everything but football. Right?Quote:
Originally Posted by HerdBot
You think they would leave the WAC for the Summit? I guess Denver did but I don't see it.
They may be forced to leave the WAC, but who knows to where?. There is concern Chicago State will shut their doors, Grand Canyon and Seattle want in on one of those California leagues real bad, and UT-Rio Grande might be looking at football, so who knows where that will lead as far as conference affiliation. UMKC might see all this and come crawling back to the Summit, hoping to be let back in. Or maybe nothing will happen, and the WAC survives and NMSU somehow holds on to FBS football. I never thought ORU would come back to the Summit, but they did.Quote:
Originally Posted by NorthernBison
What's so great about the WAC, that conference is not going to sustainQuote:
Originally Posted by NorthernBison
You might be correct but the Summit isn't exactly the picture of stability either.Quote:
Originally Posted by tjbison
The Summit is waaaaaaay more stable than the WAC.Quote:
Originally Posted by NorthernBison
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Summit...rship_timeline
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wester...rship_timeline
WAC membership is an absolute disaster, shouldn't even be in the same conversation as the Summit.
Summit will be around longer than the WAC, retaining Denver is a key all this IMOQuote:
Originally Posted by NorthernBison
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okay. What does the Summit do for their football program? See, that's the problem they face in getting tossed from the Sun Belt. Everybody here is suddenly going all "Sioux Volley" dreaming up stuff that has nothing to do with what's going on in the Sun Belt. Carry on.Quote:
Originally Posted by wow
Problem with the Summit is NDSU, SDSU, USD and Omaha are locks.Quote:
Originally Posted by tjbison
After that...
IUPUI and ipfw would jump to the Horizon in a heartbeat
Oral Roberts already left once
Western Illinois would jump to the Ohio Valley or MVC
Denver could jump to the Big Sky with New Mexico
If I was New Mexico State I would be looking to the Big Sky. Especially if they get Idaho.
I would target New Mexico State in a heartbeat
How is the Summit not stable? IPFW, IUPUI, WIU are going nowhere. The Horizon doesn't want them because they have better options. Omaha? ORU? both are happy. The only change either would make is if the MVC came calling. That likely won't happen. Even if WSU leaves the MVC have better options. The idea that you can take the Omaha area back by taking UNO after losing Creighton is ridiculous. CU and UNL own Nebraska.Quote:
Originally Posted by NorthernBison
I would love to see an invite to NMSU which would help make Denver happy. NMSU will go Independent in FB for a few years to see what shakes out. They are in a better situation than Idaho. In addition, they see themselves (as Denver did) as being above the WAC. Really can't argue with that.
If the PAC12 or Big 12 expand both will look to the Mountain West. What does NMSU really want? A shot at a MW spot so they can rejoin New Mexico. I have no problem with them coming to the Summit while they wait and see what changes occur in college FB in the next 5 years. They would immediately up the RPI. That's a good thing.
If Douple is smart he takes a shot at pulling in NMSU, UMKC and maybe even UND. Let's bring on two more schools and grow the Summit.
I think the team formerly known as the Whioux are in a precarious position. With Idaho coming in as an all sport member, UND is now expendable. That is unless you believe Star2City, SiouxVolley's dream of a BSC FBS conference.
Good post. Especially the boldest part. However the Indiana schools would jump to another conference in a heartbeat. .. would it happen? Unlikely. UMKC is a geographic fit even though I dislike them but we need them to help stabilize the conference. UND would help stability too. New Mexico State helps for a ton of reasons. As long as we have the 4 dakota schools and omaha we are super stable.Quote:
Originally Posted by jacksfan29
Just a few of my thoughtsQuote:
Originally Posted by HerdBot
I didn't mean to imply that I thought the NMSU was a good fit for the Summit. Just that we are more stable than the WAC.Quote:
Originally Posted by NorthernBison
Personally, I think if the MVC takes on any current Summit members, it will be Omaha.Quote:
Originally Posted by HerdBot
Probably....or Denver for that coveted media market.Quote:
Originally Posted by wow