FBS move fans. Here's a good read

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Originally Posted by silkamilkamonico

Will you be happy competing in a 3rd level of football in the playoffs every year with teams like Pitt State, UND, St Cloud, and some of the lower level upper competitive FCS teams like New Hampshire? Because that's where this is all moving towards.

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Actually, when you examine it closely, we are already competing on the third level.

1. BCS teams.
2. The rest of FBS.
3. FCS

We belong in the second level of football, how we get there I have no idea.

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Originally Posted by tony

Why the hell would you call up Bison Rewind to take a dump on what NDSU is trying to accomplish?

If a majority felt like Lakes, why should NDSU even bother winning the national championship? Maybe we can send the trophies we already have back to the NCAA.

He sounds EXACTLY like a UND fan ("So what if NDSU wins a national championship. It's a glorified rec league.") Screw that. You don't like the FCS, think it's beneath you? Fine, but don't downplay what NDSU is trying to accomplish and, heck, why not let somebody else have your tickets? They play FBS football in the Twin Cities. Go get drunk there.

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Amen, brother. Amen!!!

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Originally Posted by 56BISON73

"GT said when the everything shakes out we need to be ready to make a move."

The move wont be down. What is your think on playing in a 3rd level? Nothing on the radar suggests that.

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No thought of moving down, the NCAA has already said they will work with the 5 major conferences, money suggests they may be on to their own level. Obviously this is all speculation of course, but you have to think that at some point in the future with money continuing to come into play they are going to look at something for those 5 major conferences.

The second level would be everyone else in FBS. The comparison was us and a program like Wyoming. I don't think Wyoming is a good comparison because we can get to a point where we can compete with Sun Belt and MAC teams who would also be on that second level. I've always thought we were in our rightful place in FCS, and these last 3 years have been a great ride. It has changed my tune about moving up, and like you said, GT will make the best decision for NDSU moving forward and I'm sure there will come a time when h thinks long and hard about moving up.

How many posters here have confidence in Patty V. being able to position us in the second tier of college football? I think she does a good job but I think she is hogtied by the MVC. I think the MVC very much wants to be a basketball conference and will not let the MVFC get "uppity". I think the MVC would very much like to keep the MVFC in the third tier of college football.

As LittleGuysInGreen pointed out in a previous post, we are probably in the third tier now.

FWIW, I see the college football more in terms of attendance.

Tier 1 (BCS) - 50,000+
Tier 2 (Non-BCS and some FCS) - 15,000-50,000
Tier 3 (FCS) - <15,000

We should be in the tier 2 with the MAC, Sunbelt, Mountain West type divisions.

I have more confidence in Doug Fullerton getting the Big Sky into Tier 2 than I do Patty V. getting the MVFC there.

I could see the Big Sky with a north division of the ND, SD, MT and ID schools with Northern Colorado thrown in there for the ninth. I realize that many posters will say that is the NCC 2.0, but at least it would have away games that most of our fans could consistently attend. Personally, I don't have the resources to travel to Nevada, Fresno and Hawaii-type away games.

Just my opinion.

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Originally Posted by NDSU1980

Auggggh. Why does this keep coming up?????? We won't do anything until FBS/BCS people get their act together. If there is a split at the top, then, and only then, will we move up. Gene has said more than once we'll be in the second tier and that's the right place for us.

We've just hired the FCS coach in the land, we're about to piss pound a team in the semi's, and with any luck, we'll give EWU that beat down they deserve in Frisco.

Go Bison.

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Agreed. We have ignore function to ignore certain members posts...but i wish we had an ignore function for threads with certain topics in them.

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Originally Posted by tony

Why the hell would you call up Bison Rewind to take a dump on what NDSU is trying to accomplish?

If a majority felt like Lakes, why should NDSU even bother winning the national championship? Maybe we can send the trophies we already have back to the NCAA.

He sounds EXACTLY like a UND fan ("So what if NDSU wins a national championship. It's a glorified rec league.") Screw that. You don't like the FCS, think it's beneath you? Fine, but don't downplay what NDSU is trying to accomplish and, heck, why not let somebody else have your tickets? They play FBS football in the Twin Cities. Go get drunk there.

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I dont know why but I am amazed at some of his postings. He claims people with the big tailgating rigs dont donate money to TeamMakers. When he in fact he isnt a member of TeamMakers and doesnt donate any money himself.:facepalm:

The MAC and Sunbelt are garbage conferences.

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Originally Posted by BisonTeacher

Agreed. We have ignore function to ignore certain members posts...but i wish we had an ignore function for threads with certain topics in them.

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it was just the convergence of a certain Bison Rewind caller yesterday and the article in the OP.

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Originally Posted by MNLonghorn10

he is. Lakes is one of the better ambassadors for NDSU that isnt employed by the actual college. He sees things clearly more than a lot of people and can project moves before any of us. a move to FBS would only be beneficial for NDSU. GT has to be making phone calls. FCS is just embarrassing when you look at the interest in other schools. NDSU needs to sell high

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This is just plain wrong. Lakes is the worst possible thing that could happen to NDSU where public relations is concerned. I've been following various FCS (and the FBS we play) message boards for the last 3 or 4 years and Lakes is constantly there trolling their boards, pissing them off and causing them to think that NDSU fans are raving lunatics. He is sometimes trolling their boards a year ahead of the game. NDSU has a very poor fan image around the country due to Lakes. The opposing team's fans who actually visit the Dome for a game are completely surprised that NDSU fans are actually the polar opposite of Lakes, e.g., not arrogant, and overbearingly annoying.

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Originally Posted by Bison 4 Life

it was just the convergence of a certain Bison Rewind caller yesterday and the article in the OP.

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Im not mad at you. Just seems this topic/new threads come up every few days.