A new and better FBS thread

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Originally Posted by CyPanth

Sometimes you guys just ask the wrong questions.

How do typical MAC Tuesday night TV ratings compare to your national championship game TV ratings?

Your national championship game should be a huge national draw, but I don't think it is, partly because ESPN seems to broadcast it out of obligation with almost no promotion in the preceding week. I love watching weeknight MAC-tion games.

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No CyPanth, the right question is: do we want to play our football games on Tuesdays?

That's it, the end.

Just how much does NDSU subsidize the PUD FCS & MVFC?

9 times - sold out Frisco 20,000+
2016 - JMU YSU 14,230
2020- sdsu 7,840

(so basically NDSU subsidizing fcs title game for $1 million I'm ticket sales for 9 years = $9 million
Bars/Restaurants/Hotels = $2-5 million per year

MFVC (most teams charge double for NDSU game, so they are increasing their revenue cuz of us)
SDSU - extra 5000 seats every other year x $50 = $250k plus food/beer/bars/hotels
und - extra 5000 seats every other year =$250k
(no one buys anything in grand forks & drives home)
usd & uni - extra 3000 seats every other year = $150k
(they do get food/bars/restaurants/hotel revenue)
Wiu, Indy State, Siu - extra 1000 seats $40,000 & Roadwarrior spending $500.

let's face it. we subsidize all these puds.

NDSU needs to quit being leeched and move the fuck onto FBS pronto

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Originally Posted by El_Chapo

Just how much does NDSU subsidize the PUD FCS & MVFC?

9 times - sold out Frisco 20,000+
2016 - JMU YSU 14,230
2020- sdsu 7,840

(so basically NDSU subsidizing fcs title game for $1 million I'm ticket sales for 9 years = $9 million
Bars/Restaurants/Hotels = $2-5 million per year

MFVC
SDSU - extra 5000 seats every other year x $50 = $250k plus food/beer/bars/hotels
und - extra 5000 seats every other year =$250k
(no one buys anything in grand forks & drives home)
usd & uni - extra 3000 seats every other year = $150k
(they do get food/bars/restaurants/hotel revenue)
Wiu, Indy State, Siu - extra 1000 seats $40,000 & Roadwarrior spending $500.

let's face it. we subsidize all these puds.

NDSU needs to quit being leeched and move the fuck onto FBS pronto

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A small part of your argument, but I've been to a few games at Indiana State. I would estimate more like 500 people there and half of them are parents who may get comp tickets. Let's assume they don't. I think the GA ticket was like $8. So they get $4k tops. Much likely less. Although the ticket price there probably supports your argument even more.

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Originally Posted by El_Chapo

Just how much does NDSU subsidize the PUD FCS & MVFC?

9 times - sold out Frisco 20,000+
2016 - JMU YSU 14,230
2020- sdsu 7,840

(so basically NDSU subsidizing fcs title game for $1 million I'm ticket sales for 9 years = $9 million
Bars/Restaurants/Hotels = $2-5 million per year

MFVC
SDSU - extra 5000 seats every other year x $50 = $250k plus food/beer/bars/hotels
und - extra 5000 seats every other year =$250k
(no one buys anything in grand forks & drives home)
usd & uni - extra 3000 seats every other year = $150k
(they do get food/bars/restaurants/hotel revenue)
Wiu, Indy State, Siu - extra 1000 seats $40,000 & Roadwarrior spending $500.

let's face it. we subsidize all these puds.

NDSU needs to quit being leeched and move the fuck onto FBS pronto

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Hmmm, this actually brings up a really good point. If we had a new, unconstrained capacity stadium and were MW. How much could we expect to get for visiting fans? What is typical?

Would Boise, Colorado State, Wyoming, etc. bring more fans than the current 200? that most Valley teams bring? I would think so, but not sure how much.

To Chapo's point, in FCS there is a major, major inflow/outflow deficit when it comes to NDSU and our fan base...

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Originally Posted by IndyBison

A small part of your argument, but I've been to a few games at Indiana State. I would estimate more like 500 people there and half of them are parents who may get comp tickets. Let's assume they don't. I think the GA ticket was like $8. So they get $4k tops. Much likely less. Although the ticket price there probably supports your argument even more.

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When you add up:

Increased ticket prices for NDSU game
Parking
Concessions

The schools themselves bring in much more than $4k on NDSU, and the city gets

Air traffic
Hotel stays
Restaurant visits
Rental car usage

Last time I went to missouri state the ticket of the NDSU game was twice all the games besides homecoming. And more than half the fans there were NDSU folks.

In return Missouri state brings maybe 50 people

exactly!!! good discussion.

if NDSU could push Fargodome to 23,500 attendence somehow & widen concourse, Boise State Colorado State, Wyoming bring 2000-2500 fans no doubt.
hotels/bars/restaurants/airports will love that extra money, right now, every team brings 50-100 parents, sdsu sells out their 250 seats we give them.
Media reach is bigger, more viewers/listeners.

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Originally Posted by El_Chapo

exactly!!! good discussion.

if NDSU could push Fargodome to 23,500 attendence somehow & widen concourse, Boise State Colorado State, Wyoming bring 2000-2500 fans no doubt.
hotels/bars/restaurants/airports will love that extra money, right now, every team brings 50-100 parents, sdsu sells out their 250 seats we give them.
Media reach is bigger, more viewers/listeners.

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Tigirlily should write a song called more seats and beer.

Hold my lighter up when they play that song at an outdoor concert in Hoople eh

All proceeds to the cause. Chapo gets the credit.

Maybe it would be to windy for a lighter eh

Price of flax is way up.