A new and better FBS thread

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Originally Posted by El_Chapo

we are 1000 miles away FROM ALL FBS conferences.. so you just strawmanned yourself.

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STRAWMAN ALERT!

Geography and money rule college sports. And if you don't have the first, you better have a f'ing sh*load of the other.

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Originally Posted by daddy daycare

OK "BRO." Couldn't be more excited for that epic Liberty rivalry followed by a season ending trip to the river walk in San Antonio for the abracadabra bowl on 12/23 I'm sure.

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Both you bros make good points.

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Originally Posted by taper

Is your comeback actually "nuh uh, YOU are"? Do you even know what a strawman argument is? You can call me a fan of Bison athletics, which you clearly are not. You're a fan of your own vanity. Unlike you, I want what's best for NDSU, and that isn't joining a conference 1000 miles away with no rivals or peers.

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OK, so you're against CUSA and you say MWC ain't happening. So, you have no solution. That's always your answer.

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Originally Posted by NDSU1980

OK, so you're against CUSA and you say MWC ain't happening. So, you have no solution. That's always your answer.

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You don't have a realistic solution either. Nobody for the FBS does.

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Originally Posted by NDSU1980

OK, so you're against CUSA and you say MWC ain't happening. So, you have no solution. That's always your answer.

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If you're saying I'm against a move that would harm NDSU and that none of the G5 want us, you're absolutely right. To say I have no solution is completely wrong. I'm repeatedly on record saying I want to improve all our Olympic sports, improve the entire Summit League, and take some if not all of us to FBS when the opportunity is there. There's literally no downside to my plan. Even if we don't get an invite we're still better than we were before.

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Originally Posted by taper

If you're saying I'm against a move that would harm NDSU and that none of the G5 want us, you're absolutely right. To say I have no solution is completely wrong. I'm repeatedly on record saying I want to improve all our Olympic sports, improve the entire Summit League, and take some if not all of us to FBS when the opportunity is there. There's literally no downside to my plan. Even if we don't get an invite we're still better than we were before.

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This will never happen

Who else in the Summit is even interested in FBS besides NDSU (let alone capable of affording the move)?

SDSU maybe at some point. That’s where the list stops. The rest either have no interest or will never be in a position to move up.

And, if anything, the number of FBS conferences will shrink, not grow.

the summit league is dogshit moving all of our teams to FBS would help the ENTIRE program! I mean. duh.

EVERYONE better wake the F up and like now. NDSU in the summit and FCS does not ELEVATE this athletic dept or the University as a whole!!

(NDSU fanbase is already losing fans , staying status quo will kill it even more)

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Originally Posted by WhoRepsTheLurker

This will never happen

Who else in the Summit is even interested in FBS besides NDSU (let alone capable of affording the move)?

SDSU maybe at some point. That’s where the list stops. The rest either have no interest or will never be in a position to move up.

And, if anything, the number of FBS conferences will shrink, not grow.

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Yep, you understand it. The FCS Status Quo will always insist on totally unrealistic scenarios as the only move up possibility. There is nothing wrong with CUSA. Believe me, CUSA is a hell of a lot more realistic that Summit League football, and the FCS Status Quo seem to push that line a lot.

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Originally Posted by NDSU1980

Yep, you understand it. The FCS Status Quo will always insist on totally unrealistic scenarios as the only move up possibility. There is nothing wrong with CUSA. Believe me, CUSA is a hell of a lot more realistic that Summit League football, and the FCS Status Quo seem to push that line a lot.

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I agree. Nothing wrong with CUSA as our first FBS conference home. And yes, I would literally be more excited playing Liberty, NMSU, or UTEP over ANY MVFC school. I'm over the kiddie table football rivalries with SDSU and UNI.

What's more...I'd be excited every week to see where we were in the rankings. It might take a couple of seasons to make believers out of the sports writers that we weren't an FCS fluke. But after a couple of dominating seasons, we'd be top 25 all year long and the only question would be how deep could we go. We won't ever be #1 in my lifetime, but it would be fun to make the case once in a while for a top 10 ranking. It would be fun to be a perennial G5 power like Boise and Central Florida. Yes, if we are going to travel anyway, CUSA and FBS would excite me more than traveling 1,000 miles to play YSU.

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Originally Posted by NDSU1980

Yep, you understand it. The FCS Status Quo will always insist on totally unrealistic scenarios as the only move up possibility. There is nothing wrong with CUSA. Believe me, CUSA is a hell of a lot more realistic that Summit League football, and the FCS Status Quo seem to push that line a lot.

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Closest opponent in CUSA is what, Middle Tennessee? 70% of schools in Texas and Louisiana, and Florida? Hard pass.

I'm not opposed to moving FBS, but to move and join this conference sounds flat out silly.

I've been holding out hope these past few years that the G5 would somehow break off from the P5 to create their own championship, but doesn't sound like that will be happening anytime soon. Until then, I don't really see a point in entering FBS if all were going to be playing for is the "Charmin Ultra Bowl."