2021 Verbal: Cole Payton

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Originally Posted by EC8CH

Not what I'm talking about. But Pat also said don't start Wentz against JSU at the championship.

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I know that you have issues with him but, him calling bullshit on BA for something that PL knows way more about should not be one of those issues.

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Originally Posted by bisonaudit

I think it’s pretty silly to blame one guy for the whole thing. I think that the people making these decisions have backgrounds comparable to the people you reference and they they’ve concluded differently as it regards the risks and rewards for the team.

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I don't think anyone blames the quarterback, but rather the OC that changed up the QB situation.

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Originally Posted by mtoutfitter

I know that you have issues with him but, him calling bullshit on BA for something that PL knows way more about should not be one of those issues.

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So Pat says the false starts last game are because QP took some snaps? Ok? He also said don't start Wentz because the offense was used to Stick. That was boarder line retarded, but guess he had to be right because according to you he should know way more about that stuff.

Also Pat says vaccines weren't tested with double blind trials he probably talked to a guy who knows about such things.

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Originally Posted by EC8CH

So Pat says the false starts last game are because QP took some snaps? Ok? He also said don't start Wentz because the offense was used to Stick. That was boarder line retarded, but guess he had to be right because according to you he should know way more about that stuff.

Also Pat says vaccines weren't tested with double blind trials he probably talked to a guy who knows about such things.

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Please.....Wentz/Stick, judgement call. Double blind trials is something I'm tired of hearing about. I'm just saying people should respect his opinion on the false starts as he was a College OL and I would think he would know A LOT more about it than the average poster.

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Originally Posted by mtoutfitter

Please.....Wentz/Stick, judgement call. Double blind trials is something I'm tired of hearing about. I'm just saying people should respect his opinion on the false starts as he was a College OL and I would think he would know A LOT more about it than the average poster.

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Hahaha. No judgement call. Klieman himself said not even a decision. Second Wentz was ready, you play him.

Sick of double blind studies? Pat can correct himself and I'll probably stop bringing it up from time to time.

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Originally Posted by EC8CH

Not what I'm talking about. But Pat also said don't start Wentz against JSU at the championship.

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In all fairness, I was in the same boat. But had I known he had been secretly practicing for 3 weeks, I might have felt differently

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Originally Posted by mtoutfitter

You know PL was a O Lineman for both Iowa and NDSU so him calling bullshit about cadence/pre snap movements and the causes is not out of line. Especially when the person who he is talking to doesn't have the same experiences. At least that's what I see here.

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Without question, he knows a thing or 2 about O-line. He has forgotten more than I know. Unfortunately the lack of padding in the leather helmets gave him brain damage and he forgot it all. As a result, he now slow roasts raccoons assholes on a stick and calls it sausage.

Personally I think too much QB rotation can have a negative impact but Quincy was in at QB for what 6 snaps? It's really no different than most teams that do a wildcat and they don't suddenly jump offsides every play. And as i pointed out earlier, of the 4 false starts, only 1 was on an offensive lineman. I think the bigger issue is the loss of Gindorf is having a patchwork of guys do the work of the TE. All the penalties were during shifts to that spot

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Originally Posted by mtoutfitter

You know PL was a O Lineman for both Iowa and NDSU so him calling bullshit about cadence/pre snap movements and the causes is not out of line. Especially when the person who he is talking to doesn't have the same experiences. At least that's what I see here.

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Plus being the center Im pretty in tune with different QBs. Not only cadence but hand placement and teaching the QB he needs to ride the center forward for a split second when delivering the ball while hes under center while Im flying off the LOS. There are many nuances most dont have a clue about.

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Originally Posted by EC8CH

Hahaha. No judgement call. Klieman himself said not even a decision. Second Wentz was ready, you play him.

Sick of double blind studies? Pat can correct himself and I'll probably stop bringing it up from time to time.

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What do either of those things have to do with the insiders info PL has with QB cadence and how it affects an OL?

I played guard in high school. That's how I was able to determine you start the senior NFL draft pick over the red shirt freshman. Lots of nuances most wouldn't pick up on without that experience.

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Originally Posted by mtoutfitter

What do either of those things have to do with the insiders info PL has with QB cadence and how it affects an OL?

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One, his excuse to not play Wentz was similar about the offense not adjusting to a new QB. Herp Derp... Play Wentz.

B. He talks out of his ass all the time about shit he's clueless about... See double blind studies.