Re: A new and better FBS thread
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Originally Posted by
bruinbison
Boise would be a blast, but unfortunately - according to the reports - Boise & San Diego State are just waiting for the second wave of Big 12 expansion after Texas & Oklahoma leave. (2024ish) (Big 12 will be back down to 12 teams)
Rather than go to the Big 12.
I'd rather be in the MWC and deal with them departing than stay FCS and have that realignment not happen.
If we were to get into the MWC, think of the home games that we would have. Wyoming, in Fargo. Hawaii, in Fargo. Nevada, in Fargo. BOISE STATE, in FARGO!! Every single home game for the first couple years would have potential as the biggest home game in NDSU history.
Re: A new and better FBS thread
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Originally Posted by
bruinbison
Boise would be a blast, but unfortunately - according to the reports - Boise & San Diego State are just waiting for the second wave of Big 12 expansion after Texas & Oklahoma leave. (2024ish) (Big 12 will be back down to 12 teams)
Rather than go to the Big 12.
That is fine, all we need is an FBS conference. We can kick Wyoming's ass.
Re: A new and better FBS thread
I've been thinking about this quite a bit. While i'd love to jump right into the MWC, I just don't see it happening unless there is some sort of apocalyptic event happens. So, if NDSU does make the choice to seek out a FBS conference here are the options:
1. C-USA - now hear me out. It is very possible that over the next two years as many as 4-6 of the schools in that conference could be somewhere else (AAC, Sunbelt, MWC). If that happens, the identity of that conference does not necessarily have to be what it is today. It very well could be a conference in need of schools to provide stability. Currently this conference is mostly southern and eastern, it could very well become more midwestern if NDSU (and others) were to try to jump together to the FBS. I could see a western division including the likes of NDSU, SDSU, Montana, Montana State.
2. WAC - At first blush, most on this board will say NO immediately to this conference. The reality is however that the conference has plans already to return to a FBS conference that is nothing like it looks like at the present day. The same group above could all join the WAC and kick out some of the dead weight of that conference. The best existing schools in the conference could stay (GCU, NM State, Sam Houston). We could also add the best of the Summit League for the Olympic sports (looking at you USD, UST, Denver, Oral Roberts, UND) to get to a 10 team conference for Olympic sports with 7 for football (maybe 8 if UST can use their resources and get their shit together)
South Division:
Sam Houston *
GCU
NM State *
Oral
Denver
Omaha
North Division:
NDSU *
SDSU *
UND*
Montana *
Montana State *
St. Thomas
There are schools that currently play football that might not want to be FBS. Those schools can stay in the MVFC (or something else) if they would like.
This conference would be pretty cool. VERY good basketball with GCU, NM State, Oral, NDSU, SDSU and UST (assuming they will be very competitive in a few years). GREAT football conference with high quality conference opponents and the ability to play other G5 or P5 programs.
Thoughts?
Re: A new and better FBS thread
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Originally Posted by
NDSUguy
I've been thinking about this quite a bit ....
Thoughts?
It makes no sense to have that many regional G5 teams in any FBS conference
You’re just shooting yourself in the foot before you step up a level in play, and you’re recruiting the same region. You’d be handicapping yourself right out of the box
I understand the appeal, but some schools will get left behind and that’s OK
I think Bruin’s idea of NDSU/SDSU/ + 2 MT schools should be viewed as the max
Re: A new and better FBS thread
I lived near Portland for 19 years and the Portland metro area is definitely a prime market for the Ducks and the Beavers. The three counties in the Portland metro (not including Clark county, Washington) are about 1.5 million and there is a ton of traffic on I-5 between Portland and Eugene on Gamedays. Lots of traffic to Corvallis, but I would say Duck fans outnumber Beavers fans in Portland by at least 3-1.
Portland State got the same coverage that D-III Linfield College did which was maybe a story every couple of weeks on the local news and some highlights if the Ducks or Beavers were playing after the early news.
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Originally Posted by
tjbison
A simple search shows 2021 number
FARGO - 262,440 households; #114
Minot-Bismarck-Dickinson-Williston - 171,030; #141
Combine them and they would be - 433,470 which would put it at #74
#113 Eugene OR
#115 Lansing MI
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...aGPYI5rQ-Nlwi7
Re: A new and better FBS thread
Too may people talking about the Montanas and SDSU moving up ... I just don't see that happening.
I know it solves the why an FBS conference would take NDSU when we don't align geographically but I just don't see any of those three schools moving up.
Re: A new and better FBS thread
0 chance sdsu or Montanas move up
quite frankly NDSU should WANT to move up on their own
Re: A new and better FBS thread
BELL BANK could've paid for the 50,000 seat NDSU FBS STADIUM with the crap they are doing in Mesa AZ
Bell Bank has agreed to a 10-year naming rights deal for a $280 million multipurpose sports and entertainment complex under construction in Mesa, Ariz.
Re: A new and better FBS thread
Quote:
Originally Posted by
NDSUguy
I've been thinking about this quite a bit. While i'd love to jump right into the MWC, I just don't see it happening unless there is some sort of apocalyptic event happens. So, if NDSU does make the choice to seek out a FBS conference here are the options:
1. C-USA - now hear me out. It is very possible that over the next two years as many as 4-6 of the schools in that conference could be somewhere else (AAC, Sunbelt, MWC). If that happens, the identity of that conference does not necessarily have to be what it is today. It very well could be a conference in need of schools to provide stability. Currently this conference is mostly southern and eastern, it could very well become more midwestern if NDSU (and others) were to try to jump together to the FBS. I could see a western division including the likes of NDSU, SDSU, Montana, Montana State.
2. WAC - At first blush, most on this board will say NO immediately to this conference. The reality is however that the conference has plans already to return to a FBS conference that is nothing like it looks like at the present day. The same group above could all join the WAC and kick out some of the dead weight of that conference. The best existing schools in the conference could stay (GCU, NM State, Sam Houston). We could also add the best of the Summit League for the Olympic sports (looking at you USD, UST, Denver, Oral Roberts, UND) to get to a 10 team conference for Olympic sports with 7 for football (maybe 8 if UST can use their resources and get their shit together)
South Division:
Sam Houston *
GCU
NM State *
Oral
Denver
Omaha
North Division:
NDSU *
SDSU *
UND*
Montana *
Montana State *
St. Thomas
There are schools that currently play football that might not want to be FBS. Those schools can stay in the MVFC (or something else) if they would like.
This conference would be pretty cool. VERY good basketball with GCU, NM State, Oral, NDSU, SDSU and UST (assuming they will be very competitive in a few years). GREAT football conference with high quality conference opponents and the ability to play other G5 or P5 programs.
Thoughts?
How is the C-USA a step up? NDSU gets paid more for their media deals than the CUSA members get from their deal. MAC and Sunbelt teams are also in the same boat. Only the AAC or the MWC would be a step up in the payout. Would NDSU get to negotiate their own media deals if a member of those conferences……. Prob not.
Re: A new and better FBS thread
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Originally Posted by
El_Chapo
BELL BANK could've paid for the 50,000 seat NDSU FBS STADIUM with the crap they are doing in Mesa AZ
Bell Bank has agreed to a 10-year naming rights deal for a $280 million multipurpose sports and entertainment complex under construction in Mesa, Ariz.
Lol uhh how much do you think Bell is paying? Honest question