Sagarin says

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Originally Posted by Bisonguy

Or be like SHSU and do both and be ranked #2?

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If we played in a weak a$$ conference like they do it would be fine, but we don't. It will never happen.

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Originally Posted by Bisonguy

Or be like SHSU and do both and be ranked #2?

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They are #2 but isn't there still a chance they don't even make the playoffs because they'll only have 7 DI wins?

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Originally Posted by Gully

They are #2 but isn't there still a chance they don't even make the playoffs because they'll only have 7 DI wins?

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The are a lock and a seed...

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Originally Posted by Bisonwinagn

The are a lock and a seed...

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In the playoffs, I agree. But I can't see how they could leap the following teams:
Assuming the following win next week here is their DI record.

NDSU: 10-1 FBS win
Old Dominion: 10-1
Montana St: 9-1
EWU: 9-2 with a FBS win and FBS loss
New Hampshire: 9-2 with FBS loss
Cal Poly: 9-2 with FBS win
Central Arkansas: 8-2 with FBS loss and head to head over SHSU

SHSU is playing real good now, but I don't think the committee should reward a team for moral victories in playing FBS teams.

Here is what Sam is looking at: 7-3 with two FBS losses

For SHSU to get a seed, a team like UNH or Poly is going to be hosed.

i wonder if the committee will give ODU a seed since they cant even win their conference autobid...sort of like an F U?

There are a lot of 8 and 9 win teams. I suppose you could say a 7 team win like SHSU deserves to get in due to their strength of schedule but I don't see why they would be a seed with only 7 wins.

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Originally Posted by JSUBison

In the playoffs, I agree. But I can't see how they could leap the following teams:
Assuming the following win next week here is their DI record.

NDSU: 10-1 FBS win
Old Dominion: 10-1
Montana St: 9-1
EWU: 9-2 with a FBS win and FBS loss
New Hampshire: 9-2 with FBS loss
Cal Poly: 9-2 with FBS win
Central Arkansas: 8-2 with FBS loss and head to head over SHSU

SHSU is playing real good now, but I don't think the committee should reward a team for moral victories in playing FBS teams.

Here is what Sam is looking at: 7-3 with two FBS losses

For SHSU to get a seed, a team like UNH or Poly is going to be hosed.

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People always say the sub-DI wins don't count, but in reality they do in a negative manner.

The 7 DI wins is held as gospel:

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3. The won-lost record of a team will be scrutinized to determine a team’s strength ofschedule; however, less than seven Division I wins may place a team in jeopardy of
not being selected;

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but everyone seems to forget the at-large selection criteria listed immediately after that:

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4. The committee may give more consideration to those teams that have played all
Division I opponents; and

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I'm not to sure about that. It looks like Central Arkansas gets the autobid since the they beat SHSU so they win the tiebreaker.
http://www.southland.org/Sports/Foot...-Breakers.aspx

I suppose they could end up with the #5 seed like UNI did last year when they shared the conference title with us.

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Originally Posted by Bisonwinagn

The are a lock and a seed...

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Originally Posted by Gully

There are a lot of 8 and 9 win teams. I suppose you could say a 7 team win like SHSU deserves to get in due to their strength of schedule but I don't see why they would be a seed with only 7 wins.

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I have zero idea about them getting seeded. I think they are a lock for the field of 20.

I'm not hip to the inputs and outputs on this program...but is there a way to analyze only using this years match ups, and only our conference games? I guess maybe what I am thinking of would be a purely conference model.