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Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.
On a related note, the signal for a safety is one of my favorite football signals, particulary when it's done by excited defenders after scoring a safety :)
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That muffed thing that results in a touchback is stupid. Football needs more safeties. 2- point safeties are awesome, but too rarely occur. That safety signal the refs do above their head is simultaneously the Greatest and yet The Most Ridiculous looking referee signal in all of sports. And we need more of it.
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Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.
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DCinOK
That muffed thing that results in a touchback is stupid. Football needs more safeties. 2- point safeties are awesome, but too rarely occur. That safety signal the refs do above their head is simultaneously the Greatest and yet The Most Ridiculous looking referee signal in all of sports. And we need more of it.
Certain calls come with a motion to the signal. Like the false start penalty has the spinning hands. The safety signal should come with a vigorous hip thrust to provide more emphasis to what just happened.
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Gully
I think I understand the muff and touchback stuff. But if a receiver catches a ball clean and then runs backward into the endzone to avoid a defender and then is tackled, that is a safety right? Because the 'impetus' was the runner and not the original kick.
Yes but there is an exception. If a player intercepts a pass, recovers an opponent's fumble or catches or recovers a kick inside the 5 yard yard line and their original momentum takes them into the end zone where the ball becomes dead in their team's possession this would be a safety. But the momentum exception says in this case you bring the ball back to where they gained possession and they are awarded a new series.
This is something we talk about all the time but it very rarely happens. I think I can only remember it happening once in the 20+years I've been officiating. We almost had one this year on an interception but the kid ran it out and then took a knee at the 2. I think this exception exists fairly similar in all 3 rule sets.
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Gully
On a related note, the signal for a safety is one of my favorite football signals, particulary when it's done by excited defenders after scoring a safety :)
Inside officiating pet peave. The NFL signal for touchback is different than the NCAA and NFHS signal. NFL is the arm to your side and waving it up and down. In NCAA and NFHS you have your hand over your head like a fair catch signal. I see high school officials all the time the NFL signal. It tells me they only partially study the rule book and pay attention at meetings. It's a stupid pet peave because everyone knows what they are signaling. I don't know why we can't just use the same signal.
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DCinOK
That muffed thing that results in a touchback is stupid. Football needs more safeties. 2- point safeties are awesome, but too rarely occur. That safety signal the refs do above their head is simultaneously the Greatest and yet The Most Ridiculous looking referee signal in all of sports. And we need more of it.
Ever heard of a one point safety?
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IndyBison
Ever heard of a one point safety?
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I know, I know!! :)
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Gully
I know, I know!! :)
Is it possible?
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Herd
Everything is designed to protect the muff. It seems like they are putting the muff on a pedestal. Everyone seems to like the muff, no one wants to touch it. That muff is not not right, this whole muff thing smells.
Really? Nobody is going to acknowledge this? I thought it was awesome lol. Thanks Herd.
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IndyBison
Is it possible?
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I’m assuming it is, and would come about somehow from an extra-point try/kick, as that is a 1 point attempt, as I assume you know.
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OrygunBison
Certain calls come with a motion to the signal. Like the false start penalty has the spinning hands. The safety signal should come with a vigorous hip thrust to provide more emphasis to what just happened.
Maybe start with a jump to the left, and then a step to the right...
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No_Skill
Maybe start with a jump to the left, and then a step to the right...
And then rub stomach and pat top of head at the same time.
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CAS4127
I’m assuming it is, and would come about somehow from an extra-point try/kick, as that is a 1 point attempt, as I assume you know.
There are 3 ways to score. The point totals are different on a regular scrimmage play or a try.
Scrimmage play
Touchdown: 6 points
Field Goal: 3 points
Safety: 2 points
Try
Touchdown: 2 points
Field Goal: 1 point
Safety: 1 point
So all the rules that define touchdown, field goal and try apply to both instances but the score value changes. True for NCAA but not limitations for NFHS. This is why when the defense blocks a kick or intercepts a pass and returns it for a TD they get 2 points.
Based on that a tab is awarded one point if they get a safety on a try. It's extremely unlikely for the offense to have a safety on a try. The most common way this happens is the defense gains possession of the ball on a try in the field of play and takes it into their own end zone (no momentum) where it becomes dead in their team possession. The other example is if the defense commits a foul that is enforced in the end zone.
This is probably the most common example we use in clinics. Note this should have been an illegal forward pass which also would have resulted in a safety by enforcement because the foul happened in their end zone by the team in possession.
https://youtu.be/jp4TeP4rw0s
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IndyBison
There are 3 ways to score. The point totals are different on a regular scrimmage play or a try.
Scrimmage play
Touchdown: 6 points
Field Goal: 3 points
Safety: 2 points
Try
Touchdown: 2 points
Field Goal: 1 point
Safety: 1 point
So all the rules that define touchdown, field goal and try apply to both instances but the score value changes. True for NCAA but not limitations for NFHS. This is why when the defense blocks a kick or intercepts a pass and returns it for a TD they get 2 points.
Based on that a tab is awarded one point if they get a safety on a try. It's extremely unlikely for the offense to have a safety on a try. The most common way this happens is the defense gains possession of the ball on a try in the field of play and takes it into their own end zone (no momentum) where it becomes dead in their team possession. The other example is if the defense commits a foul that is enforced in the end zone.
This is probably the most common example we use in clinics. Note this should have been an illegal forward pass which also would have resulted in a safety by enforcement because the foul happened in their end zone by the team in possession.
https://youtu.be/jp4TeP4rw0s
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Since we just love working you to death, I'll ask a follow up. Is it possible for a team to have 1 point? AKA let up a touchdown, then intercept the try in endzone, leave endzone, return to endzone where tackled?
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NDSU92
Since we just love working you to death, I'll ask a follow up. Is it possible for a team to have 1 point? AKA let up a touchdown, then intercept the try in endzone, leave endzone, return to endzone where tackled?
The team that scored the TD would get the 1 point so it would be 7-0. The way it could happen is if somehow the offense on a try ends up 97 yards back with the ball in their own end zone. It would be extremely unlikely, but it's technically possible. This would make it 6-1.
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Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.
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DCinOK
That muffed thing that results in a touchback is stupid. Football needs more safeties. 2- point safeties are awesome, but too rarely occur. That safety signal the refs do above their head is simultaneously the Greatest and yet The Most Ridiculous looking referee signal in all of sports. And we need more of it.
The safety against UNI in the '15 quarters is one of my all time favorite Bison football plays.
The Phantom Whistle game.
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CAS4127
And then rub stomach and pat top of head at the same time.
then....."put your left foot in, pull your left foot out, put your right foot in, pull your right foot out, then shake it all about....."
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southcliffbison
then....."put your left foot in, pull your left foot out, put your right foot in, pull your right foot out, then shake it all about....."
On TD replays/reviews, the head official making the final call over the microphone/speaker system should get to ad lib with his or her own/unique call and signal like baseball plate umps on the 3rd strike call. Would be hilarious and add to the crowd celebration or discontent.
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Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.
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CAS4127
On TD replays/reviews, the head official making the final call over the microphone/speaker system should get to ad lib with his or her own/unique call and signal like baseball plate umps on the 3rd strike call. Would be hilarious and add to the crowd celebration or discontent.
When I rack up a batter on a called strike three........I leave no doubt (I hate batters anyway, all they do is slow the game up) JK
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CAS4127
On TD replays/reviews, the head official making the final call over the microphone/speaker system should get to ad lib with his or her own/unique call and signal like baseball plate umps on the 3rd strike call. Would be hilarious and add to the crowd celebration or discontent.
How about Video Review Dancers to come out during calls to the booth and/or Video Review Reenactors go out on the field to recreate the play that caused the review? Seems like Bisonville posters would be perfect for both jobs.
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Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.
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CAS4127
On TD replays/reviews, the head official making the final call over the microphone/speaker system should get to ad lib with his or her own/unique call and signal like baseball plate umps on the 3rd strike call. Would be hilarious and add to the crowd celebration or discontent.
Personal foul number 68 for "giving him the business" under the pile. (Ref acts out punching)
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Twincitybizon
Personal foul number 68 for "giving him the business" under the pile. (Ref acts out punching)
One of my favorite officiating videos!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LNJnHPUlaI
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IndyBison
That’s awesome and what I was alluding to. Good entertainment.
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Sure, but how many potential picks? Eleventy threeve?
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24 24 8 min in 4th lets go wentz
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Colts getting a bit pass happy with the play calling. Must have balance!
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Jfc ........................
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Well, for the haters, Carson just made terrible terrible play.
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THEsocalledfan
Well, for the haters, Carson just made terrible terrible play.
At least they’ll get the ball back with better field position :)
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OMG, carson tried to make a play AGAIN and screwed up.
he gets a chance here
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El_Chapo
OMG, carson tried to make a play AGAIN and screwed up.
he gets a chance here
As soon as it wasn't there, he just needs to throw that into the feet of the receiver. Big, big blunder.
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GOTTA GO FOR 2 !! you were gonna lose anyways!
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THEsocalledfan
As soon as it wasn't there, he just needs to throw that into the feet of the receiver. Big, big blunder.
And redeems himself.....wow.
One really strange thing here.....if he takes the safety after his blunder, they lose. Ironically, the terrible pick 6 helped.
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wow...down to the tie
COME ON CARSON!!!
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Folks, if you are not watching, turn this on. Carson is first up in OT.
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That was PI, but I’m not heartbroken about it
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And now a terrible pick.....Philly Carson right there.
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This loss will be on Wentz. He was pretty bad after the first quarter. Really made bad decisions in OT
