Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.
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unbison
You can’t compare today vs 1961 when Maria set the record as a you were not alive and times have changed
The other thing is wentz is mostly infamous
Maris would have blown up Twitter if it had been around in 61! Phil Jackson, also more well known than Carson.
Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.
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Bisonator98
No way is he even close to the top ten draft bust list. Where do you get your BS from my gawd.:pan:
Pat Mcafee show.
Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.
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123Gobison
Pat Mcafee show.
So hes changed his mind from the show I saw where he said Wentz wasnt a bust at all.
Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.
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56BISON73
So hes changed his mind from the show I saw where he said Wentz wasnt a bust at all.
Last time I saw, he had Carson as top 10 QB bust of all time. I am happy if he took Carson of that list, as far as I am concerned Carson does not belong on that list. He had a great start with the Eagles that was cut short by injury, later he played with a squad that was not hungry , depleted with injury and did not share the same goals as he did. Then the team gave up on him and he sort of fizzled in Washington, I dont think he is a bust.
Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.
Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.
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123Gobison
Last time I saw, he had Carson as top 10 QB bust of all time. I am happy if he took Carson of that list, as far as I am concerned Carson does not belong on that list. He had a great start with the Eagles that was cut short by injury, later he played with a squad that was not hungry , depleted with injury and did not share the same goals as he did. Then the team gave up on him and he sort of fizzled in Washington, I dont think he is a bust.
Lol you certainly have a way of framing things and projecting attitudes to justify negative outcomes for NDSU players.
The Eagles certainly had some issues but lets not pretend they were the Cleveland Browns or something. They won a Super Bowl while he was there and made it to another a couple years after he left.
Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.
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123Gobison
Pat Mcafee show.
That guy's such a fucking clown. Talk about stupidest talk show hosts he's at the top of the list. It's no wonder you take him seriously! :rofl:
Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.
https://twitter.com/PointsBetUSA/sta...592753152?s=20
Carson Wentz was a MVP ^^^ until week 16
and in 2019 Carson got Eagles to the Playoffs with this WR Corps: 4000 yard and 27 TDs he should be in the Hall of Fame on that accomplishment alone.
Greg Ward JR
JJ Arcega
Deontaey Burnett
Robert Davis
Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.
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Originally Posted by
El_Chapo
https://twitter.com/PointsBetUSA/sta...592753152?s=20
Carson Wentz was a MVP ^^^ until week 16
and in 2019 Carson got Eagles to the Playoffs with this WR Corps: 4000 yard and 27 TDs he should be in the Hall of Fame on that accomplishment alone.
Greg Ward JR
JJ Arcega
Deontaey Burnett
Robert Davis
It was the cheap shot hit eh. But I've posted that before eh. Nothing new eh.
Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.
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Originally Posted by
ByeSonBusiness
Lol you certainly have a way of framing things and projecting attitudes to justify negative outcomes for NDSU players.
The Eagles certainly had some issues but lets not pretend they were the Cleveland Browns or something. They won a Super Bowl while he was there and made it to another a couple years after he left.
I'm not going say I agree with the way others have framed anyone's career but there are some other factors than QB one can point to with eagles SB runs. When they won, their o-line was solid and one of best in NFL. Then they went into rebuild mode with o-line for a few years. Their SB return correlated with o-line play getting better.
There have only been a handful of QBs in the history of the league who have won with bad o-lines. There is a rich history of bad QBs who have won with good o-lines. Generally, and usually without exception, a QB is only as good as the line in front of them.
Hurts pretty much had the same stats line as Wentz until the o-line got better. The colts did no better with Ryan. Washington won a couple more games but statistically, Heinicke really wasn't any better QB. If their o-line is getting better, I would be inclined to have given Wentz another year because physically he still has way greater potential then Heinicke. This is where maybe he isn't clicking because of his personality. I don't know.
Certainly with his contract there are expectations but he isn't one of the handful of generational talents that can win without o-line support. Now his value is tied to that contract when there probably is the right situation for him to be successful. Draft busts are guys like Jamarcus Russell where no situation would be the right fit because he gained a ton of weight and wouldn't put in the time to prepare.
I think Wentz will get one more chance in his career and if it is on a team with a decent o-line, he will finish his career on a much better note than where it is at right now. I just don't think where it is at right now is 100% self-inflicted.
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