Four hours from Indy is most of the makings of a P2/P5 conference.Quote:
Originally Posted by IndyBison
Four hours from Fargo is ... Dickinson.
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Four hours from Indy is most of the makings of a P2/P5 conference.Quote:
Originally Posted by IndyBison
Four hours from Fargo is ... Dickinson.
That's the tough reality.Quote:
Originally Posted by The_Sicatoka
We obviously need to leverage the msp market to be financially attractive.
...Or Winnipeg...Quote:
Originally Posted by The_Sicatoka
I thought NDSU and SDSU would make an attractive pair for the MAC, but I guess not.
How the heck did I miss UCONN going independent a few years ago?Quote:
Originally Posted by DePereBisonFan
It's one of the things I love about living here. Do close to so many other cities. I can drive to Chicago and back in the same day to see a Cubs game. And for perspective, I'm closer to Orlando than Minot. And we are on the western edge of the MAC (only Northern Illinois is west of us). I still think the MAC could eventually consider the xDSUs. Both schools would be competitive in the conference.Quote:
Originally Posted by The_Sicatoka
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You're 800 miles to Boston or Orlando; it's 750 miles Fargo to Indy.Quote:
Originally Posted by IndyBison
I still say the solution is build the Western answer to the MAC (with parts from Summit and BSC).
Such a void of potential mates in our geographic regionQuote:
Originally Posted by The_Sicatoka
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Nice map. Notre Dame is a shorter drive than Montana State from Fargo.Quote:
Originally Posted by NI4NI
Thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bisonguy
It does really illustrate how logistically difficult a FBS path is.
Only need one and its obvious who it is
When I lived in Florida I was closer to Indianapolis than Fargo is. I was also only a couple hours closer to Miami than Indianapolis lol.
They left AAC for Big East Basketball, which drives the bus at UConn.Quote:
Originally Posted by ByeSonBusiness
Rumors are they may cave and join a conference though, they are the only true Indy FBS team left, and don't have the deal ND does to be represented in CFP. Every other team is in a conference now.
If they were to move to the MAC I expect they would try to keep basketball in the Big East. MAC basketball would not help them be the type of program they want to be.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigHorns
True, the real challenge is a lack of G5 schools nearby, which is the next logical step.Quote:
Originally Posted by NI4NI
Still think we could make MWC work if they decide to expand. That conference is a bit more spread out and more open to it than most G5s. The G5s tend to want more regional clustering to reduce costs, their revenue streams are small compared to P4.
Man, look at that north-south line from Grand Forks to Austin, TX. There is such a gap to the west.Quote:
Originally Posted by NI4NI
Also, when I said UConn to the MAC, I meant football only, or maybe also non-basketball sports.
And no, if the MAC doesn't want us, the MWC surely won't come calling even when they are expanding.
You're correct. MWC ain't coming around anytime. Might as well jump at the MAC I guess, although still off in the boondocks.
Article in The Athletic today suggests the new CFP will possibly change yet again in two years to a 14 team config with 3 auto-bids for B1G and SEC.
https://theathletic.com/5306903/2024/02/28/college-football-playoff-expansion-big-ten-sec/
The ESPN version - https://www.espn.com/college-footbal...ayoff-momentumQuote:
Originally Posted by GreenfieldBison
"According to sources, the model that's earned the most discussion coming out of the CFP meeting in Dallas is one that would include three automatic qualifier spots for the Big Ten and SEC, two for the Big 12 and ACC and one for the Group of Five. That would leave three at-large spots in that 14-team model."
Sounds pretty amicable (if lopsided - just have to accept the P2 dictatorship I guess) until this part
"One high-ranking official involved in the discussions told ESPN on Wednesday that the presidents and chancellors in both the SEC and Big Ten are having conversations about whether to continue their NCAA membership. It's a move that would impact and could possibly derail the TV agreement.
"Those conversations are happening," the source said, adding some feel "pretty strongly about pulling away. I'd say very strongly."
Are these discussions real or just leverage? If you're going to leave just do it and don't be assholes
Oh, I expect the P2 will leave *and* be assholes about it, taking as much revenue as possible with them. It’s a question of when, not IF. They want to be NFL lite.Quote:
Originally Posted by WhoRepsTheLurker
Are they bound by Title 9 if they leave NCAA?Quote:
Originally Posted by BigHorns
If not, say goodbye to any sport that does not lay down black ink on the bottom line.
Title IX applies directly to the educational institution, not to the NCAA...as long as the sport is run/administered by the school, I would think Title IX would still apply....Quote:
Originally Posted by NI4NI
Who is it enforced by? Or rather...What are the ramifications of ignoring it?Quote:
Originally Posted by GCWaters
The schools are responsible for implementing/enforcing the regs. If they're out of compliance, they deal directly with fed OCR...theoretically, there can be consequences, but OCR usually works with the school to bring things into compliance and rarely pulls any funds from the school..Quote:
Originally Posted by NI4NI
I wonder how well that would work. There are so many administrative and governance things handled through the NCAA and shared among all members. They would have to do that on their and duplicate something already done. One simple thing is the game rules. These are all NCAA. Would they create their own rule books? They could do like NAIA and Texas HS and just adopt the NCAA playing rules, but they have no say in the creation or update of the rules.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigHorns
I don't ever see a complete separation from the NCAA. It's more likely to be a carved out part of the NCAA for the areas they truly are different. Not unlike CFP. It is a separate organization but it exists for one purpose. Yes they have huge amounts of revenue, but they also have huge expenses. I would be very curious to see how the men's basketball media deal would be handled. Would this new organization own that contract and get all the revenue? Would they have to share it with the NCAA if they allowed some of their members to participate? Would any changes in this space increase or decrease the broadcast rights. You would end up paying a lot of lawyers and consultants a lot of money to figure out all those logistics.
The obvious reaction is ... "that will never happen". But with the dollars involved mixed in with human greed, well never say never.
Title IX is Federal law. It follows wherever.
(it's pronounced title icks)Quote:
Originally Posted by The_Sicatoka
But now that athletes are apparently employees, how does that work? Do you have to have an equal amount of male and female professors? Janitors? What if there are more female professors? Is that bad?Quote:
Originally Posted by GCWaters
Close. Title IX - the e is silent. It's pronounced 'tit lix'Quote:
Originally Posted by Kevin
Only matters if there are more men. lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Gully
I'm just amazed at the breadth of poor taste.
Might I suggest mouth wash?Quote:
Originally Posted by EC8CH
I doubt that will help me understand people who make misogynistic jokes about collegiate women's athletics.Quote:
Originally Posted by NI4NI
Why?Quote:
Originally Posted by EC8CH
What did you say? I missed it.
That might be the gayest thing you’ve ever said lolQuote:
Originally Posted by EC8CH
I’m just amazed at the breadth of your gay bro.
He does have a weird obsession with Mike Lindell. Who knew?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kevin
Quit burying your head so deep in the pillow then.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kevin
Not the first time either you've commented on your appreciation of my breadth.
Just this afternoon you were saying you had bad breath?Quote:
Originally Posted by EC8CH
http://youtu.be/GZmH1aK9NN0?si=6X6pRmXz449HEZFoQuote:
Originally Posted by NI4NI
He's Minnisota's favorite son!Quote:
Originally Posted by EC8CH