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Originally Posted by TAILG8R
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Yep me too.Quote:
Originally Posted by TAILG8R
First, the WAC is already partnered up with the ASUN so they don't really need anymore schools if they can actually get to the FBS. Second, it seems really illogical to me that one can advocate for NDSU to join a WAC move to the FBS but disparage joining CUSA which is an existing FBS conference. This type of thought process is exactly why some feel that you and others like you are advocating for staying FCS. Because it makes no rational sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by taper
The talk of going FBS with the other 3 Dakota schools is beyond insane. There isn't enough money in either state to support it and there is not enough talent in the upper Midwest to support 4 FBS teams. We either need to suck it up and make the transition now by ourselves so that we're established in FBS when the next moves happen or partner with Montana, Montana State, Idaho and SDSU to form a Northern division of a "Sun Belt west." ie, a conference of mostly smaller rural schools where Football is the lead sport on campus.
It blows my mind that you can't comprehend that it's not about where NDSU flies. Jesus Christ at least attempt to use common sense one time.Quote:
Originally Posted by El_Chapo
That's a good Bingo.Quote:
Originally Posted by taper
I would absolutely love to see a northern group of schools like this try to make a move. The problem is that it is going to take some serious effort in order to make it work. Much more effort in my opinion than NDSU just worrying about moving their own Ath. Dept. to another conference. Given the lack of evidence that the current leadership is trying to do anything aggressive on the FBS front, a plan to create an entirely new FBS conference seems very ambitious.Quote:
Originally Posted by AKBison
They love their west coast recruits via games at Davis and Sac and Poly and PSU. Not sure they're looking to give that up.Quote:
Originally Posted by AKBison
I've already explained my reasoning, but to refresh:Quote:
Originally Posted by BigLakeBison
I doubt all the WAC-ASUN members will go FBS when the time comes. The 4 Dakotas are a ready made plug in and we all either already meet the new requirements or can easily get there.
CUSA is an island of misfits. WAC is a group of ambitious schools on the rise. I know which one I want to partner with.
WAC can go FBS any time it wants. The NCAA knows it'll lose yet another anti-trust lawsuit if it tries to stop them, so it won't.
With the PAC2 on the verge of a total merge with the MWC there's no other option. Just like our past history, we need to make our own path.
Yes, this is just the standard process for selecting bowl teams. There's no special exemption or waiver granted.Quote:
Originally Posted by TAILG8R
It doesn't occur a ton, which is why it surprises some.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bowl_eligibility
There's 41 bowls, and 82 teams that get in this year.
Only takes 5 fbs wins and 1 fcs win to make the cut.
After that they take second year transition teams.
After that it's 5-7 teams based on APR.
There's been a little chatter about Buffalo moving from MAC to CUSA.
Not sure how likely that actually is, but if it happened, would open a spot in MAC.
I'm skeptical there, but maybe they extend into the NE with additions like Delaware, and UMass/UConn.
https://www.startribune.com/gophers-...tal/600322684/
Goldy dipping into FCS in the search for a new QB
I find this amusing
About Max Brosmer... "He completed 64.2% of his passes (294-for-459) with five interceptions. He also rushed 57 times for 126 yards and five TDs."Quote:
Originally Posted by WhoRepsTheLurker
Bison fans....
"That's cute!"
Feels pretty desperate, but they aren't high enough in pecking order to poach a good FBS qb.Quote:
Originally Posted by WhoRepsTheLurker
So there surely have to be schools trying to get into the ear of Cam and Cole, no? Baton down the hatches bros ...Quote:
Originally Posted by BigHorns
Without UND and/or USD, good luck filling out that conference without being an extreme geographical outlier. The entirely West Coast schedule probably wouldn't pair great with your recruiting footprint.Quote:
Originally Posted by AKBison
at least you are amused. We like Max Brosmer. How many more teams are going to move to FBS before NDSU? Delaware moving up now. Its like you are division 2 all over againQuote:
Originally Posted by WhoRepsTheLurker
Good question and I see your pointQuote:
Originally Posted by Gopher24
I thought 8 would be better this year, fwiw, and a grad transfer is a little different imo, so good luck with maxbro
Im really curious how many more teams go FBS before NDSU.Quote:
Originally Posted by WhoRepsTheLurker
I live here in Fargo. 10 years ago I thought no chance NDSU ever goes FBS. Now so many other teams have it seems like they're back to Division II again.
It won’t be long before the G5 is the new D2 and we’d technically be D3… it’s basically that way right now…Quote:
Originally Posted by Gopher24
Your reasoning isn’t rational no matter how much you explain it. The WAC isn’t any less of a group of misfits than the CUSA and the CUSA is already FBS. The NCAA isn’t going to just look the other way on the WAC moving to FBS. It would open them up to any FCS conference wanting to do the same. Even if they stand a chance of losing, they will fight it. The WAC/ASUN schools want no part of that legal battle. The cost benefit doesn’t add up for a G5 conference. NDSU would also have to pitch the WAC/ASUN on being include which is no easier of a sell than it currently is to CUSA. Also, all of this is a moot point if the NDSU leadership doesn’t make an aggressive play for inclusion. Which seems highly unlikely.Quote:
Originally Posted by taper
Pretty sure SFA is a lockfor CUSA's 12th spot. That leaves EKU, Missouri State, Illinois State, and Tarleton as FCS schools that have expressed interest in FBS.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gopher24
Yeah. What the hell is up with 8?Quote:
Originally Posted by WhoRepsTheLurker
Also, will Goldy be looking to add some OL from the portal? A RB perhaps?
Too much time to think about it after last year and no heat from below? No idea who they got behind him tbhQuote:
Originally Posted by GreenfieldBison
The NCAA doesn't give a single damn about how many G5 teams or conferences there are, maybe some of the G5 leagues will but the powers that be don't.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigLakeBison
The NCAA is made up of its member schools. The P4 don’t want anymore mouths to feed. It’s why they’re increasing the requirements for FBS. They aren’t going to just let the WAC into their group without challenging it. NDSU had a path to CUSA if they wanted it. They thought they had better options.Quote:
Originally Posted by NDSUstudent
On this we agree. It's also why the B1G schools (and others) are talking about a P4 splitoff. They want all the money for themselves.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigLakeBison
The more schools that join, the closer that day is.
The G5 will be paupers if this happens, and to a degree already are a much lower level. P4 earnings are 10x plus now.
I think recent moves are really just trembles before the coming earthquake at D1 level.
They want to stay out west. Recruit and play out west. The only conference they would think of joining would be the mountain west which may not expand any further anytime soon ( and won’t exist, all going to PAC)Quote:
Originally Posted by NI4NI
It would have to be fairly appealing for the MVC teams to leave their superior BB conference to join an entire other league. MVC is one of the best BB conferences outside of the P5Quote:
Originally Posted by AKBison
YES. WSU QB has 10 offers for $1 million each right now they said.Quote:
Originally Posted by WhoRepsTheLurker
Cam & Cole will 1000% be offerred $100k-$250k at a FBS school and how do they turn that down? I just honestly hope that they work together (and with Entz) and if 1 goes, 1 stays at this point.
A couple things:
Why would Buffalo want to leave the MAC to go to CUSA?? I haven't looked into it at all ...
I like something Entz said in his presser Monday, to paraphrase "Schools just want to get into the FBS anywhere with anticipation that over the next 10 years there will be more shakeup ..." within context talking about Delaware and why they would go to CUSA.
He also said the gap is widening between FBS and FCS which was refreshing to hear because all we have heard for years is how the top of the FCS is on the same level or better than most of the G5. This WAS true. It was a short 3-4 sentence answer to a question about Delaware moving up but I liked what he had to say.
Of course it means nothing in terms of moving up other than as we have known most on the inside know we should move up and will most likely take any opportunity to do so at this point, imo.
The opportunity came and went when a desperate CUSA was looking for members anywhere and everywhere. We are stuck where we are at for good. We are not in anyone's conversation anymore. The lack of imagination by our leaders of what CUSA might have been with an NDSU as a member and what NDSU might have done in that conference, is entirely to blame.Quote:
Originally Posted by TAILG8R
Larson, Bresciani, and now Cook... numskulls, all of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigLakeBison
Didn't you move to Texas St? How is their gameday experience in person?Quote:
Originally Posted by Professorbum
That program has struggled a lot recently, but I still think SBC is a better product than CUSA. Nearby SHSU looked pathetic on many levels.
Kraft turned down six or seven figures from Alabama to stay at South Dakota State last year.Quote:
Originally Posted by El_Chapo
Kids will do what makes sense to them.
I think that's true if they feel they have a strong chance of a Championship, and getting drafted for big money in NFL.Quote:
Originally Posted by ByeSonBusiness
If we slip this year and don't make Frisco, that could impact some kid's decisions also.
I did. But 9 years as an NDSU employee and two kids getting their degrees there make me a lifelong fan. Which is why it still matters to me that NDSU get into the FBS. I think there is no future in FCS. I feel like we missed several last helicopters out of Vietnam.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigHorns
Texas State has a history of doing poorly in FBS. But new president with a vision for both athletics and academics, along with a new head football coach and lo and behold, we are 7-5 and going bowling for the first time school history.
The gameday experience is pretty good here. Extensive tailgating, but probably not on the scale of NDSU in its heyday.
I see that JMU and JaxSt get to go bowling after all. Dang, that could have been NDSU.
https://www.inforum.com/sports/bison...nd-leap-to-fbs
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For the last several years NDSU has held out hope that the desirable Mountain West or American Athletic conferences would call the 701 and ask for a meeting. It was always the longest of longshots, but the Bison bosses wanted perfection. Now it's clear that simply isn't going to happen.
In lieu of perfect, NDSU will have to try to settle on good enough for now.
Call Conference USA commissioner Judy MacLeod and ask, "What can we do to get in your league?"
(Second question: "Is it possible we could join as a football-only, because we think we could add some football juice to the league?")
Beg if you have to.
And if there's any hint of interest — like, a .00001 hint of interest — continue to talk until there is an invitation or .00000 interest.
It's time to stop paddling around and hoping for a bite. Make it happen. Be proactive. Market yourself. Sell yourself.
I agree with McFeely on almost nothing. But he's right on this. But I think the horse has left the barn...train has left the station...ship has sailed...and any other quips that mean we're too late and we're screwed.Quote:
Originally Posted by TAILG8R
Not saying he's wrong, but my understanding is NDSU would take a media deal pay cut if they joined....i'd have addressed that if I wrote the piece.Quote:
Originally Posted by Professorbum
I think we had more leverage in this regard when CUSA needed members.Quote:
Originally Posted by THEsocalledfan