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The big question is how much TV money will be available when the G5 are totally separate from the rest of college football. Will interest in the MAC, WAC, et al go down?
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Everybody assumes that the P5 and the G5 are going to break away. I don't know if that is going to happen. Granted the rich are going to get richer. Here, is the breakdown for the College Football Playoff shares (This does not include any bowl shares from the 30 plus bowls):
SEC ... $87.5 million
ACC ... $83.5 million
B1G ... $60.0 million
PAC ... $60.0 million
B12......$58.0 million
MWC....$16 million
AAC .... $12 million
MAC.... $12 million
CUSA.. $12 million
SunB... $12 million
Of course, if this trend continues, there will only perhaps be 8 or 12 teams in the non G5 that could realistically compete for a shot at a major bowl (NY DAY 6) or shot at a playoff berth. But the G5 teams and conferences are still getting a hell of a lot more $ than they would if they moved down to FCS or if they formed a "new" second tier division.
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Hammerhead
The big question is how much TV money will be available when the G5 are totally separate from the rest of college football. Will interest in the MAC, WAC, et al go down?
A very good question! No idea, but I suspect you are right that it may go down. There is a reason they call the other conferences the "Power 5".
BTW, the WAC is no more for football :D
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Everybody assumes that the G5 will break from the P5. I don't think that is a given. Under the current system, the rich get richer, but the have nots are still getting more TV revenue than they would in the new second tier or the FCS. Each Sun Belt team received a $1 million for their share in the College Football Playoffs. It pales compared the SEC or other P5 teams. But is still better than the alternative.
http://businessofcollegesports.com/2...rence-payouts/
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Oregon journalist just tweeted Vernon Adams visiting Oregon this weekend
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Ok I've asked my fox sports guy dom Jeff beth/jamal. Not 1 can answer my question.
Has Gene or Dean or New ad called the mountain west or MAC.
Answer is NO. And why the hell haven't they? Will someone answer me that. They should be flying to thier conference meetings. Show a 5 minute video of fanbase gameday frisco iowa state Kansas State roadtrips. Show them the huge tv shares and great economy here!!
Get it done $ but they won't even do the first sales call. Embarrassing
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El_Chapo
Ok I've asked my fox sports guy dom Jeff beth/jamal. Not 1 can answer my question.
Has Gene or Dean or New ad called the mountain west or MAC.
Answer is NO. And why the hell haven't they? Will someone answer me that. They should be flying to thier conference meetings. Show a 5 minute video of fanbase gameday frisco iowa state Kansas State roadtrips. Show them the huge tv shares and great economy here!!
Get it done $ but they won't even do the first sales call. Embarrassing
how about because it would cost a minimum of $100 million to do it? I think that money could be spent doing way more.
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El_Chapo
Ok I've asked my fox sports guy dom Jeff beth/jamal. Not 1 can answer my question.
Has Gene or Dean or New ad called the mountain west or MAC.
Answer is NO. And why the hell haven't they? Will someone answer me that. They should be flying to thier conference meetings. Show a 5 minute video of fanbase gameday frisco iowa state Kansas State roadtrips. Show them the huge tv shares and great economy here!!
Get it done $ but they won't even do the first sales call. Embarrassing
Yes Gene did. He confirmed so in an interview. So quit lying.
So a question to you. Lets say Gene ,Matt---who ever you want to pick has done EVERYTHING you say and they still say NO THANK YOU. What do you propose then?
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56BISON73
Yes Gene did. He confirmed so in an interview. So quit lying.
So a question to you. Lets say Gene ,Matt---who ever you want to pick has done EVERYTHING you say and they still say NO THANK YOU. What do you propose then?
Doesn't matter as we don't have the money to do so.... But hey pl meet you in Dallas at the Ferrari or lamborgini dealer maybe they will let us get some seat time.... I mean hey everyone wants to make moves we can't afford right
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unbison
Doesn't matter as we don't have the money to do so.... But hey pl meet you in Dallas at the Ferrari or lamborgini dealer maybe they will let us get some seat time.... I mean hey everyone wants to make moves we can't afford right
I hear you. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ is a huge barrier. Its not a one year thing. Its every year. There are plenty of other obstacles as well. But no need bringing those up as well.
Ive ridden in a Ferrari. Besides being over rated(imo) I still don't have the $$$$ to run with that crowd. I think there is a message their some where.:biggrin:
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56BISON73
I hear you. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ is a huge barrier. Its not a one year thing. Its every year. There are plenty of other obstacles as well. But no need bringing those up as well.
But what about all the donors that will come out of the woodwork if we announce our intention to go FBS?
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But what about all the donors that will come out of the woodwork if we announce our intention to go FBS?
Yep. The definition of bandwagon fans?
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El_Chapo
Ok I've asked my fox sports guy dom Jeff beth/jamal. Not 1 can answer my question.
Has Gene or Dean or New ad called the mountain west or MAC.
Answer is NO. And why the hell haven't they? Will someone answer me that. They should be flying to thier conference meetings. Show a 5 minute video of fanbase gameday frisco iowa state Kansas State roadtrips. Show them the huge tv shares and great economy here!!
Get it done $ but they won't even do the first sales call. Embarrassing
St Cloud St is on the phone, they have agreed to home and home games with NDSU for the 2017/2018 season when FBS games are no longer a priority or scheduleable
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MNLonghorn10
St Cloud St is on the phone, they have agreed to home and home games with NDSU for the 2017/2018 season when FBS games are no longer a priority or scheduleable
This schtick is as boring as playing St Cloud St.
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TransAmBison
This schtick is as boring as playing St Cloud St.
Photographic evidence of what you say.
Not going to say who is lakes and who is mnlonghorn.
http://andygrosslive.com/wp-content/.../unholy3_1.jpg
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TransAmBison
This schtick is as boring as playing St Cloud St.
Yes but some of us who are bored still lol'd at it
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Is the one capable of having kids Lakes?
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tony
:rofl::rofl: :rimshot:
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TransAmBison
This schtick is as boring as playing St Cloud St.
Yeah but you can tailgate at St Cloud.
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MNLonghorn10
St Cloud St is on the phone, they have agreed to home and home games with NDSU for the 2017/2018 season when FBS games are no longer a priority or scheduleable
They called you? That answers a lot of questions. :biggrin:
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TransAmBison
This schtick is as boring as playing St Cloud St.
I know right? that would suck
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56BISON73
They called you? That answers a lot of questions. :biggrin:
nah they called Mr. Stony Brook. He's working out the contracts. should be done by next season!
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MNLonghorn10
nah they called Mr. Stony Brook. He's working out the contracts. should be done by next season!
Great I look forward to the presser!
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MNLonghorn10
I know right? that would suck
That made me lol...
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El_Chapo
Ok I've asked my fox sports guy dom Jeff beth/jamal. Not 1 can answer my question.
Has Gene or Dean or New ad called the mountain west or MAC.
Answer is NO. And why the hell haven't they? Will someone answer me that. They should be flying to thier conference meetings. Show a 5 minute video of fanbase gameday frisco iowa state Kansas State roadtrips. Show them the huge tv shares and great economy here!!
Get it done $ but they won't even do the first sales call. Embarrassing
You really are embarrassed that you attended NDSU aren't you? You couldn't afford U of M or you weren't accepted. Your eternal erection for FBS football is more than what you think is best for NDSU, it's a personal issue.
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El_Chapo
Ok I've asked my fox sports guy dom Jeff beth/jamal. Not 1 can answer my question.
Has Gene or Dean or New ad called the mountain west or MAC.
Answer is NO. And why the hell haven't they? Will someone answer me that. They should be flying to thier conference meetings. Show a 5 minute video of fanbase gameday frisco iowa state Kansas State roadtrips. Show them the huge tv shares and great economy here!!
Get it done $ but they won't even do the first sales call. Embarrassing
GT did talk to the WAC, if the Montana schools had jumped and they almost did we would be in the FBS right now. Don't like where we are at, blame the Montana schools since they backed out on the WAC at the very last second. With the WAC dead, we have nowhere to go. The MWC isn't looking and the MAC isn't looking and they won't be unless they lose a school.
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MNLonghorn10
nah they called Mr. Stony Brook. He's working out the contracts. should be done by next season!
Did you call GT Mr Naval Academy in a derogatory tone when he first took over? Probably not. You weren't out of HS then. But you should know better now don't you think?
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56BISON73
Did you call GT Mr Naval Academy in a derogatory tone when he first took over? Probably not. You weren't out of HS then. But you should know better now don't you think?
GT? oh the guy that moved up? Yea good move for him.
Lol at you coming back and requoting this at 2 in the morning
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Not the Sun Belt. Never the Sun Belt.
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Hail bison
You really are embarrassed that you attended NDSU aren't you? You couldn't afford U of M or you weren't accepted. Your eternal erection for FBS football is more than what you think is best for NDSU, it's a personal issue.
Spot on sir.
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MNLonghorn10
GT? oh the guy that moved up? Yea good move for him.
Lol at you coming back and requoting this at 2 in the morning
Is that a literal or figurative "Lol?"
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runtheoption
Is that a literal or figurative "Lol?"
Literal. I laughed at the fact that he let it stew then came back with that
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It's quite amusing that it seems that the only people who insist on this are the 30k millionaires.
Of course, they aren't worried about at least doubling all the coaching salaries, adding dozens of new scholarships and building a new stadium. Because they're only concerned with the look, not the cost.
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Bison 4 Life
It's quite amusing that it seems that the only people who insist on this are the 30k millionaires.
Of course, they aren't worried about at least doubling all the coaching salaries, adding dozens of new scholarships and building a new stadium. Because they're only concerned with the look, not the cost.
I am a bit curious as to their current Teammaker donations...as in if they aren't even Teammakers at the moment...that's just sad*. If they are current Teammakers, how much more are they willing to up their donations.
*I use "sad" because harsher language doesn't seem to facilitate respectful conversation.**
**Literally.***
***As in RTO is literally an a-hole.****
****That is respectful. I didn't post that until after I left his house.
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TransAmBison
I am a bit curious as to their current Teammaker donations...as in if they aren't even Teammakers at the moment...that's just sad*. If they are current Teammakers, how much more are they willing to up their donations.
*I use "sad" because harsher language doesn't seem to facilitate respectful conversation.**
**Literally.***
***As in RTO is literally an a-hole.****
****That is respectful. I didn't post that until after I left his house.
Well according to Lake's neg rep of me, he wants me to think he makes about 5 times what I said so he surely could fork over a lot.
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Why does bison 4 life post every private message I send him. What a man he is to do that. Just pathetic.
Yea when pat simmers leaves and ndsu goes fbs I'll donate to teammakers.
Until then I'll spend THOUSANDS on ndsu in other ways of support thank you very much
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Bison 4 Life
It's quite amusing that it seems that the only people who insist on this are the 30k millionaires.
Of course, they aren't worried about at least doubling all the coaching salaries, adding dozens of new scholarships and building a new stadium. Because they're only concerned with the look, not the cost.
The obstacles you mention are indeed real, but I don't think insurmountable. If the FBS games dry up and we find ourselves playing D2 teams to fill out the schedule, then I think it will be time to take a serious, hard look at moving up.
As mentioned by you, PL, and others before, without an invite we are not going anywhere, however maybe the time is now to start laying the groundwork for the move so as to be ready when an invite should come our way. I really haven't seen or heard anything to show that a move to FBS has been a serious consideration by officials at NDSU. Gene Taylor mentioning it to the WAC/MWC 5 years ago doesn't count as actively looking. If they aren't seriously looking, an invite will never come our way.
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LITTLEGUYSINGREEN
The obstacles you mention are indeed real, but I don't think insurmountable. If the FBS games dry up and we find ourselves playing D2 teams to fill out the schedule, then I think it will be time to take a serious, hard look at moving up.
As mentioned by you, PL, and others before, without an invite we are not going anywhere, however maybe the time is now to start laying the groundwork for the move so as to be ready when an invite should come our way. I really haven't seen or heard anything to show that a move to FBS has been a serious consideration by officials at NDSU. Gene Taylor mentioning it to the WAC/MWC 5 years ago doesn't count as actively looking. If they aren't seriously looking, an invite will never come our way.
I need only point to the SHAC to illustrate the funding hurdle.
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Bison 4 Life
I need only point to the SHAC to illustrate the funding hurdle.
Am I correct in thinking that NDSU still doesn't have all of the SHAC money?
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bisonaudit
Am I correct in thinking that NDSU still doesn't have all of the SHAC money?
NDSU does, NDSU foundation does not. :biggrin: