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This is the first time I've heard this.Quote:
Originally Posted by El_Chapo
I'm a Trendsetter bro.Quote:
Originally Posted by daddy daycare
I thought pickle juice was the way to prevent cramps?Quote:
Originally Posted by scottietohottie
Obviously, look how quickly you made Roll Herd happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by El_Chapo
Banana pickle juice smoothies.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hammerhead
No wonder everyone is transferring.Quote:
Originally Posted by TAILG8R
It's the hidden caffeinated ingredient they are all afraid of :paperbag:Quote:
Originally Posted by bisonaudit
I got diarrhea from reading that.Quote:
Originally Posted by TAILG8R
Row the boat eh.Quote:
Originally Posted by OrygunBison
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Originally Posted by BigHorns
So DELAWARE is heading for FBS and NDSU still holding its ____
Must spread rep ...Quote:
Originally Posted by OrygunBison
Sounding like Army to the AAC could be done by the end of the month. Army Navy would still be a non conference game played after the regular season
Geography doesn't matter.Quote:
Originally Posted by El_Chapo
Delaware is "open" to a move to the FBS according to recent stories which doesn't necessarily mean they are.Quote:
Originally Posted by El_Chapo
Delaware to the ACC bros that'll make lakes head explode it'll be awesomeQuote:
Originally Posted by Hammerhead
shit U Mary might beat us thereQuote:
Originally Posted by Kevin
Now here would the the kind of opportunity that would be ideal for NDSU - a Pac-2/MWC merger that includes promotion/relegation and would likely require expansion: https://sports.yahoo.com/college-foo...l?guccounter=1
Note that this isn't just a random guy throwing ideas out there - this is a guy who is hearing from sources directly involved in the Pac-2/MWC talks that this is an idea that was floated. How serious it is being considered is anyone's guess. I can think of a whole slough of questions they'd have to answer to pull it off (many of which are addressed in the article) but it would be a unique and interesting narrative that would add excitement to both leagues and would make an ideal FBS landing spot for NDSU. Dellenger calls out NDSU and SDSU as "obvious expansion targets" in the article.
That would be.....freaking awesome.Quote:
Originally Posted by Professor Chaos
I’m not sure there’s another situation where something like this would be possible but as it stands OSU and WSU have so much to lose if the PAC12 goes away they just might be willing to risk relegation.
Seems like existing G5s might want in on the expansion slots though?
This relegation model is the only way that the PAC-2 can steal the best MWC schools to compete against while leaving the bottom baggage schools in the lower Division where they belong. The bottom schools should know why this model is being proposed because the conference but out is the only thing keeping the top MWC schools from jumping .
The concept sounds great to me and what a fantastic way to drive eyeballs and $$ for a media rights deal when at the moment the MWC has a set worth and the PAC2 are essentially worthless.
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Here you go Chapo
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Multiple sources have told me the school's athletic department has made it known to the Mountain West, and perhaps other mid-major FBS leagues like the American Athletic Conference, that it would be interested in discussing membership if the opportunity arises.
FBS conferences have to invite potential members. NDSU athletic director Matt Larsen and President David Cook have said no FBS leagues have invited the school and it has not engaged in discussions with any conferences. McFeely quote
mcfoolnuts isn't a reputable sourceQuote:
Originally Posted by TAILG8R
would the "champion" be eligible for the G5 CFP position?
Also when a team gets "relegated" wouldn't 75% of the players just leave thru the Portal instantly?
The more I read about some proposed ideas for scheduling in the PAC/MWC relegation model the more I want this to happen. It truly is a great way to provide excitement and value to a core set of programs that have nothing but a middle tier bowl game to shoot for otherwise. Count me in.
From the little that was shared I do think the changing budget issue is almost a 100% deal breaker unless they can figure out a way soften that blow to one or two million or a way to average payments out over X years. But schools can't have 5-10m shift in budget year over year.
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Late-season schedules would be flexible, allowing for on-the-fly matchups for maximum meaning and fan interest.
Dellenger wrote the schedule could include:
- a Bracket Buster Weekend in early to mid-November, where pairings are determined two weeks prior and are based off of current standings with the intent on arranging compelling, crossover matchups.
The entire season builds up to a crescendo of a final week that features three games:
- A Relegation Game between the sixth- and seventh-placed teams in the Pac-12. The loser is relegated to the Mountain West. The eighth-place finisher in the regular season is automatically relegated.
- A Promotion Game between the second- and third-placed teams in the Mountain West. The winner is promoted to the Pac-12. The regular-season champion of the Mountain West is automatically promoted to the Pac-12.
- The Pac-12 championship game, where the winner has a significant chance to advance to the newly expanded College Football Playoff.
Never going to happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Professor Chaos
There are ways to do this. Revenue sharing, parachute payments, etc. there are different models. Other places do this. It’s possible.Quote:
Originally Posted by TAILG8R
Yeah, as much as I want it to happen - 100% agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by LITTLEGUYSINGREEN
Good f’n luck drawing up a charter that wouldn’t get ripped to shreds by the bigger schools. Power loves stability and status quo.
How do you do travel budgeting a year in advance when you don't know where you're going?Quote:
Originally Posted by NDSU92
And imagine the bad season that relegates SDSU(red) or ColoSt.
Who are the power schools though? Oregon State and Washington State??? They need the MWC more than the MWC needs them at this point.Quote:
Originally Posted by NDSU92
Sounds awesome to me. But unlikely
Exactly. So they set up the conference like you say, get on solid ground, and then the first order of business will be to scrap relegation and take the top half of the MW to create their own conference.Quote:
Originally Posted by Professor Chaos
The bottom half of the schools won’t pass a charter allowing that to happen and I don’t think the top half will pass a charter that doesn’t allow it to happen.
#1 out of about a dozen deal killers that I can think of.
Value-wise ... San Diego State by a wide margin.Quote:
Originally Posted by Professor Chaos
Then Colorado State, then it's a mosh pit of Boise State, WasSU, OrSU, and maaaaaybe UNLV. After that? "Field."
Well, today the top half of the WMC are stuck in the MWC, so let’s not pretend there aren’t incentives for them to agree to a deal with no downside compared to what they’ve got today.Quote:
Originally Posted by NDSU92
Um the downside is they go through with this, have a bad year and get stuck on the wrong side of the fence once the gate gets welded shut.Quote:
Originally Posted by bisonaudit
And I see exactly 0 presidents and ADs signing up for a fun new system where they get fired if their football team has a bad year.
Wouldn't that still be a good thing from NDSU's POV??? It was always in NDSU's best interest to have the Pac raid the MWC so if this is what it takes so be it. I'd agree that the promotion/relegation is unlikely but I don't think it's as outlandish as you do. If it gives value to the Pac-2 and enough of the MWC to make it so they can use it as an excuse to combine while maintaining the Pac name and assets while avoiding the gargantuan MWC exit fees it leaves the same expansion opportunities for western based FCS schools into (what's left of) the MWC.Quote:
Originally Posted by NDSU92
The idea is interesting, but I have trouble believeing that schools that won't schedule XDSU now will willing jump at the chance to get pounded by us and take their "big boy" spot away.
Call it what it really is in the end game: a "creative" way for the top half to try to duck out on MWC exit fees.Quote:
Originally Posted by NDSU92
They’re on the wrong side of the fence and the gate is welded shut today. If they do nothing it stays that way.Quote:
Originally Posted by NDSU92
Pretty sure the Presidents and ADs are already worried about getting fired if their football team has a bad year.
I have no illusions about this thing actually happening but these seem like insubstantial reasons for why it won’t work.
Well, they don’t have a big boy spot today and they need more teams to make this go but I’m far from convinced we’d be at the front of the line even in the remote chance that this happens.Quote:
Originally Posted by ringthebells
Do you really need to know exactly where you are going in order to budget for the same travel that you do 6 other times a year?? Does destination change the cost like 10% maybe??Quote:
Originally Posted by The_Sicatoka
Well, then don't lose ... seriously though that is exactly why the system would draw eyeballs, each game actually means something and there is something very real on the line and not an invite to the Detroit Motor City Bowl.
It's funny how so many instantly say it's impossible when 1) it's not 2) all the bullshit shakeup and changes with conference realignment have shit on NCAA football in more ways than this "crazy idea" would. This idea is actually directly combatting the one thing all the realignment has done and that is create actual meaning and must-see entertainment vs 90% of games on Saturdays truly being meaningless in the big picture of the CFP.
Do I think it will get done, doubtful but it is plausible imo. Necessity is the mother of all invention, can't move forward staying with the status quo, more flies with honey or something like that ;)