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Originally Posted by bisonaudit
Jesus Christ. After we QUAD, WHAT IS THE POINT OF STAYING? We are not amongst our peers anymore. Don't we want a new dream and challenge? Why the hell cannot NDSU be a power in BIG TIME COLLEGE FOOTBALL in 30 years??? Well, it starts with moving up and accepting the challenge of winning a non BIG 5 conference and going from there.
NDSU is going to rewrite the history books when we QUAD. I and El Chapo and others are enjoying the success. But seriously, don't you want the program and university to challenge itself? Don't you want NDSU to play the BEST TEAMS in the country? Are not you tired of NDSU being the best small time program in the country? There is no reason why NDSU cannot be a top 20 college football program within thirty years. Let's stop with "the cannot do" attitude." Same bullshit that was spoken by the D 2 proponents ten years ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by admin
Wanting something is not sufficient. The conditions have to be right in order to make it work.Quote:
Originally Posted by Strongman
Even if there is really no point in staying (which I'm not willing to grant) you've still got to have someplace better to go to. That place probably doesn't exist at the moment and the path to get there certainly does not.
This is simply false. 10 years ago there were absolutely no reason to stay in D-II, we couldn't spend the money we had, the only question was whether we could raise enough to compete at the next level. There was a viable path for the transition, the University did their diligence and decided we could raise the money, and we have.Quote:
Originally Posted by Strongman
I don't think that any of those things are true today.
Did elcheapo hack your account?Quote:
Originally Posted by Strongman
Has any conference invited NDSU to join them?????? No that's correct. So how does NDSU move up?Quote:
Originally Posted by Strongman
I would argue after winning the quad is exactly the wrong time to move. Success on the field is not a pre-requisite to move up and moving up after a successful run gives the program an inflated impression of fan support. There are a ton of band wagon fans on board right now. Hell we have Sioux fans showing up to the games because we are good and interesting. Remember the days that we used to worry about the deer opener and how no one would show up? Those disappeared when we started winning championships, however there is no indication that those days won't return when we have less than great years. Show me that through the down years that the fan base still stays strong then come talk to me...Quote:
Originally Posted by Strongman
Here is my opinion, there is a large percentage of NDSU football fans are interested in seeing a team win national championships. There are people on this board who say that, people who just by participating on a message board are more fanatical than your average rube. If there is a sizable group on the board, the numbers amongst the average fanbase are higher. And make no mistake, if we move up with the big boys, we will never, ever sniff a national championship again.
I love ndsu football and its as good as it gets there is no doubt....id rather stay where we are then play in detroit in december....and we dont have the backing to move up or the invite to move up to the top p5 conferences so i stay here
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Originally Posted by unbison
This^^^^^^^^^ for right now!
People talk about quads and this and that. How about talk about this when a conference actually says they want to expand? Only conference that wants to do that is the Sun Belt and I think most here can agree that doesn't work well for either party.