That's insane. No wonder they walked away from the offer.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigHorns
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That's insane. No wonder they walked away from the offer.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigHorns
I'd be happy joining any FBS conference. Some would make me happier than others, but ALL of them make me happier than being in FCS's best conference. Also, I simply don't believe the MWC will invite an FCS school. Or at least, they will avoid it at almost all costs. Craig Thompson has practically said this out loud. We need to be FBS if we are going to get a MWC or AAC invite.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigHorns
exactly BUM. we've been waiting 10 years, we can't afford to wait 2 more years, lets alone more to be honest.Quote:
Originally Posted by Professorbum
I've seen people saying we could be the next Boise St. That's a worthy goal and if we do that I think we can at best expect a similar OOC schedule. Boise St usually gets one P5 at home a year, often one from their backyard. If they can only get 1 and sometimes 0, why would anyone think we'd get 2 each year?
As for the rumor of a 15 year GOR for the MAC, it actually makes sense for them. They're a conference that values long term stability and culture fit over chasing the latest fad. After their terrible attempts at expansion in the 2000s they probably decided they don't want to be a stepping stone. If they offered that deal to the xDSU pair I'd be in favor of taking it.
I would be 100% in favor that as well--and to committing to them long term is that's what it took. I'm okay with NDSU trying to become the perennial powerhouse in the MAC. At that point, we wouldn't need to switch to the MWC. I'm leery of all the California influence in the MWC anyway. I think we'd get national attention and respect if we are the powerhouse in any conference, but certainly so in the MAC.Quote:
Originally Posted by taper
^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^ The only answer some knowQuote:
Originally Posted by oldmantutters
Why do people think we are shoe-in to Mountain West....We don't share a border with any of the current schools and Laramie is the closest school about 800 miles away. North Dakota doesn't have the population base that those schools wants to recruit students from.
If the MW was to lose Boise State and San Diego State wouldn't they still want to go after more California Schools or Texas schools before us.
People that think we are going directly into MW from FCS are delusional.
We need follow the same path we did when we moved up for FCS - just get in a conference and figure the rest out afterwards. We are going no-where if we stay in the Summit/MVFC except down the drain.
This year for example at Indiana State, at Western Ill and Southern Ill. Will there be 10K combined attendance at those 3 games this year? Is that 2nd tier football...
We already get more national attention and respect than any current MAC program. Have you looked at their attendance numbers? Not much better than the Valley. How many people are going to be at the dome on Tuesday (or whatever night of the week they play) night for a game against Kent State? The majority of the Bowl games MAC teams played in last year were less than 15,000 in attendance…That said, take the Jacks with us and I’m in. Just don’t tell me we’re going big time!Quote:
Originally Posted by Professorbum
Hawaii offers nothing to the MWC but a School and high travelQuote:
Originally Posted by blackdiamond2
ND/Fargo offers way more than Laramie/WY as it does open up MN to recruiting in a way, as it at least puts schools playing in the area, Colorado St and Wyo have been trying to recruit MN and with NDSU coaches moving around in the West they know where players are and how many MN produces.
Nothing Delusional this day in age in the scope of College athletics
now I agree there may need to be another path to the ultimate goal, but to say its completely out of the realm is a bit over the top also. I still think FBS in 5 years is gone as we know it, and it would have to be EPIC imo for NDSU to be invited into the MWC out of the chute
I didn't say the MAC is the big time. But it is bigger than what we're doing now. And if we obliterate the other teams and go undefeated, we absolutely get a great bowl. If we do that 2-3 years in a row, we get a NY6 bowl.Quote:
Originally Posted by semobison
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Originally Posted by Professorbum
Competition wise it is a bit better than a lateral move. We have only gone Undefeated 3 times in FCS. I can think of one MAC team in the last ten years that made a NY6 bowl. I don’t see any teams in the current MAC that would excite me as much as playing SDSU. The conference is full of Youngstown States! Then, there is the weeknight games. I’m not driving over from Bismarck on a Wednesday to see us play Kent St. or Toledo. We need to take the Jacks with us for me to get behind this move.
My son will be a freshman at Western Michigan this Fall so I expect to see an occasional MAC game. The stadium is in a bowl and looks like it could be a fun environment. Talking with friends who have worked both the MVFC and MAC have said there is definitely a step up in competition overall. Less of a step for a team like NDSU and no doubt they would compete for championships. But the skill players overall are definitely better. Attendance/atmosphere on the other hand not so much. And WMU only has one mid-week home game. I think that's pretty standard. And they are hosting Pitt and playing at Michigan State this year. Last year they played at Michigan and Pitt and hosted San Jose State. 2019 they played at Michigan State and Syracuse. Going forward they travel to Syracuse, Iowa, and Mississippi State in 2023; Wisconsin, Marshall, and Ohio State in 2024; at Michigan State and Illinois and host Marshall in 2025. Those are definitely better non-conference but they don't host many of them. Their other home game appears to often be an FCS team (New Hampshire, St. Francis, Stony Brook).Quote:
Originally Posted by semobison
Not sure if this has been posted yet but the 2023 and 2024 MVFC conference schedule (with Murray St included) is out: https://valley-football.org/document...24.pdf?id=2159
NDSU will miss Illinois St, Indiana St, and Youngstown St during that 2 year cycle. That may sound like a pretty tough draw until you see who SDSU misses (Indiana St, Murray St, and WIU). Indiana St gets the relative cake walk missing NDSU, SDSU, and Missouri St.
About the only thing I can complain about with NDSU's schedule is the premium home games are really overloaded towards the 2024 schedule with UNI, UND, and SDSU all at home that year. The conference home slate next year is very "bleh" (USD, WIU, Murray St, SIU) although the non-con home games (Maine and Central Arkansas) aren't bad.
Who’s genius idea was putting those three on the same home/away rotation?
Eastern Washington (at US Bank Stadium), Maine and Central Arkansas to open the year next fall is so-so.Quote:
Originally Posted by Professor Chaos
Our home conference schedule is putrid. Think I will put those tickets on sale now and see if I can get half my money back. (we'll see how this ages... maybe all 4 of those teams have a good season this year and bring back a bunch of talent next year)
Look at Central Michigan and Eastern Michigan. 4 Saturday home games is typical, but it depends. If your team sucks, ESPN won't be as eager to feature them on a weeknight.Quote:
Originally Posted by IndyBison
EMU has 4 home Saturday games : Toledo, UMass, NIU and Buffalo
CMU has 4 home Saturday games : Bucknell, South Alabama, Ball State, Bowling Green.
I'm not sure this is light years better than our MVFC schedule, but its not bad, and there are some Wednesday ESPN games.
Just as NDSU will have a veteran OLine next season with the return of two Super Senior starters, so will the Jackrabbits. Garret Greenfield and Mason McCormick both announced that they are returning next year.
Youngstown writer & fans wondering about jumping from MVFC
https://ysupenguins.com/forum/index....c,20156.0.html
They could dominate OVC & goto playoffs guaranteed every year & save travel costs.
I thought we're leaving for the FBS so why do we care about YSU?Quote:
Originally Posted by El_Chapo
That would be jumping down. They can see the writing on the wall. The 4 Dakota schools are rising and they are falling. They haven't beat us in a decade, even with Bo PeliniQuote:
Originally Posted by El_Chapo
Lower travel costs, more potential wins, easier path to post-season, could look very enticing to the 'guins.Quote:
Originally Posted by HerdBot
Would this end up a trade of YSU for Murray?
maybe Murray Re-Negs and MFVC adds St Thomas instead of MurrayQuote:
Originally Posted by The_Sicatoka
It made no sense leaving a 7-4 MVFC team out of the playoff field. Our conference had *three* playoff teams. Like...wha??Quote:
Originally Posted by El_Chapo
It did when you looked at who they beat. Only team they beat with a winning record was 6-5 Illinois St who was playing their backup QB and YSU still needed to drive the field in the final minute to win it. Then they lost to 4-7 Missouri St (only other MVFC teams MSU beat were WIU and ISUb) and the other MVFC bubble team in UND at home. Then they played 2 creampuffs OOC in Duquesne and Dayton. They also missed SDSU and UNI in the conference schedule this year so they had the weakest schedule in the MVFC.Quote:
Originally Posted by DePereBisonFan
Those YSU fans are an odd bunch - they're spewing all sorts of conspiracy theories and committee corruption theories on AGS and pretty much ignoring the fact that YSU had no good wins, a bad loss, and a weak schedule by MVFC standards. They didn't deserve to get in at 7-4 - had they beat Missouri St or UND and they would've been in without question.
Youngstown is a shell of what they once were. It's kind of sad considering they were once the gold standard and they clearly care about football.Quote:
Originally Posted by Professor Chaos
https://570wkbn.iheart.com/content/2...games-and-ysu/
Adios Bobby Petrino. Going to UNLV as offensive coordinator and was making $275k at MSU. Will be interesting to see who MSU targets as his replacement.
https://www.cbssports.com/college-fo...s-per-reports/
Kyle "Bubba" Schweigert? :irslow:Quote:
Originally Posted by KSBisonFan
You guys better extend him now to be safe!Quote:
Originally Posted by The_Sicatoka
Already did last March. Probably best just to go all the way to a lifetime extension though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bisonator98
You guys are harshin' my mellow.
USD's Carson Camp portals to Sac State.
MoiSt just hired Ryan Beard as HC ... Petrino's son-in-law.
https://twitter.com/MOStateFootball/...xsports.com%2F
Tomorrow in Brookings seems nice. :paperbag:
https://forecast.weather.gov/MapClic...6#.Y5y6A3bMKUk
Yeah I like MSU money line and the under in that one but the site I use to place bets doesn’t have a line yet. They probably will tomorrow morning.Quote:
Originally Posted by The_Sicatoka
Hopefully you didn't place that bet.Quote:
Originally Posted by NDSU_grad
WR Wes Eliodor portals from south to north (USD to UND).
Ha ha. Oh you I bet I hit it. Luckily I’m a gigantic wuss when it comes to betting so it didn’t hit my pocketbook too hard.Quote:
Originally Posted by ringthebells
Illinois State recruiting articles:
Did Illinois State just recruit the next Robinson?
Why, yes they did……
https://prairiestatepigskin.com/2022...-running-back/
https://prairiestatepigskin.com/2022...irds-recruits/
USD has hired SDSU passing game coordinator/wr coach Josh Davis to be its next OC.
Excellent hire for them. We should have hired him as OC consultant.Quote:
Originally Posted by NDSU