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Originally Posted by SDbison
Adrian Cronauer: You are in more dire need of a blowjob than any white man in history.
It's a joke!
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Originally Posted by SDbison
Adrian Cronauer: You are in more dire need of a blowjob than any white man in history.
It's a joke!
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Originally Posted by MN_BISON
well if they are all as bad as you assume they are, there shouldn't be any dropoff at all from #1 qb to #3 qb. they all suck according to you.Quote:
Originally Posted by SDbison
It is easy to be down on the qb situation, just like the rb situation last year. Stop knocking what we have and see what happens. For all we know, one may emerge and next year in the offseason we will all hail them as the next coming. Everyone needs to relax a bit and try to ENJOY what we have right now. it wasn't long ago (5 years) when everything was awful. I certainly don't have the goggles on, but I am trying to appreciate what we have at the present time. This is a glorious time in Bison history and we need to embrace it, not piss and moan over small details we have little knowledge or control over. And no, SD, this is not entirely directed at you. I find a lot of your attitudes and posts funny and enlightening/entertaining. Just general comments.
I've joked around with SDBison's posts, but I do find his worries about quarterback somewhat valid. I'm nervous about Mertens, but I do think he has a lot of potential. I don't think SDBison is arguing that. I am nervous about second string. Parsons has a ton of ability, but he has been a huge disappointment in my book. When he has played he has all but refused to throw the ball. When he has thrown I think he has a great arm. He just won't use it. That would make me nervous if he was needed to run the offense. Brecke looked okay in the spring game when I saw him. Ok. Just ok. If we looked back to last spring and the info that Hallstrom/Kolpack gave us we would not find glowing remarks for any of them. They all were ok, but none were taking control. I believe Parsons would have gotten the nod if he would have actually passed the ball.
There, that is enough serious talk. Better go to my smack thread and post a joke or two.
I guess I am just hearing what coaches say....that they are adding stuff to the playbook to accomodate Walker's arm and athleticism. Kid played hoops for Miles last year. He is a stud. If they tell me that, I will take their word for it.
Remember his stats last year when he played at MVS? he was like 80% with a TD pass. He is a REALLY good leader and athlete. Will he be perfect? We don't know, but to be critical of a kid who has learned for 4 years under the best we have had, had the same coordinator/coaches for a long time is bizarre to me. Kid was Mr. Football in MN. If we got that kid every year, we would have some great talent at NDSU.
I love how everyone is ready to announce DJ the next Heisman winner but won't at least give Mertins a shot.....and I love DJ...but I guess we just have rose colored glasses on.
You mean Merten's, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by bisonhusker
I am at a loss that anyone can make the statements about how bad the quarter backs are based on what they say 1 year ago. The players are 1 year old, have had a full year to strengthen their game, a full year to be coached, and their knowledge enhanced.
NDS has a great set of coaches, who know how to work with players, I think we need to give them the benefit of the doubt.
This thread is starting to flirt dangerously close to "mental masturbation". I think I will coin that term, think I stole it from Sammy Hagar, or the like, bein's somebody already has "douchebaggery".:D
Carringtonbison have u ever seen Mertens play or even his stats? or parsons for that matter? both play with good confidence and dont seem to to be a nervous wreck out there, look at their stats which are very impressive for gettin 30 snaps a year....if your gonna be hating on our players, go be a UND fan
I'm thinking your aim was a little off with that post there dude. He sounded pretty supportive.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jdubs21
"To this point none of them look impressive at QB and there will be a huge drop off when the new guy steps in. "
that sounded opposite of supportive...
I don't see that quote from CarringtonBison. I assumed you were taking him to task for post #83. I read that as supportive overall and the first part of the post I took as sarcasm. I'll let him defend himself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jdubs21
he was quoting SDBison there...Quote:
Originally Posted by Jdubs21
I agree with your comment. It was however, pointed in the wrong direction. Carrington is driving home the same point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jdubs21
There are a couple others who feel our rose colored glasses are getting in the way of objectivity. Perhaps you could direct your comment in their direction.
In the mean time, I will support you by repeating a comment made earlier in the week.
From a rose colored glasses point of view (I actually wear photogrey) - Chill out! Life in college ball has key players graduating every year. A big part of my Bison experience has been to look at the positives and expect teams to deliver. Brewster went 1-11 last year. Bohl and the Bison went 10-1.
huh???? i never said anything to that regard. i was making the point that they have not done anything for anyone to be making comments on how they may perform. i was backing them up. i think you need to reread the post. there was an overtone of sarcasm. go back and read for several pages and see that there are others hating. i feel cautiously confident in our QB situation, unlike others on the board. apology will be acceptedQuote:
Originally Posted by Jdubs21
go back and see that that quote came from SDBison. i quoted him in my response. i am supportive of the team in general and don't feel that 18-23 year old kids who play ball for my entertainment deserve to be berated as happens here. Hell, a high school senior who isn't even in our program is being doubted, which is ridiculous. You can point fingers and say what you want, but you are wrong!! All it takes is a easy review of the posts to see that!Quote:
Originally Posted by Jdubs21
Wow, some of you are letting your homerism get to you. If you objectively look at the 3 QB's that have backed up Walker for the past couple years none of them are impressive. If you watched the Spring games you would see none of them approached the confidence and abilities that Walker demonstated. I am hoping that with another year of maturity and one half a game of experience Mertens can step in and prove he has some great things to contribute. As for Parsons, he always seems to jump the gun and take off running. So far Brekke has not shown much either. OK, maybe it is possible any one of these three could suddenly surprise us and become a great QB. I hope that is what happens. As a fan, Alumnus and teammaker I am concerned about a post Walker letdown. Maybe I was hoping that there would be a legit transfer from an FBS school, or a good sized QB from the region who make a commitment to NDSU. Just seems strange how it took until the last week before signing day to get a recruit from San Diego given NDSU's high FCS ranking. I suppose Jose could end up being as good if not better than Walker. Maybe I have my doubts, but there is nothing wrong with voicing them here. I never made personal atacks on the players or coaches. If one of you blind faith posters could come up with something other than the coaches will make it happen we might have some good dialogue. Maybe someone who was at the Mississippi Valley State game could comment on how well Mertens took command or how sharp his passes were? Maybe someone has inside info on how Parsons is working on staying in the pocket, etc? Going into 2008 the QB situation will be the #1 question mark. Apparently this topic is taboo at Bisonville.Quote:
Originally Posted by CarringtonBison
None of the QB's that backup a 3 1/2 year starter look impressive at any program, unless your USC.
Which evil would you want to deal with? Getting a special player like Walker, and then dealing with aftermath? Or not having a special guy like Walker, and having a better idea of what you're going to get for QB's the following year?
I'll take Walker any day of the week, and twice on Saturdays.
Sorry, these 3 QB's have been around for a while and they are way behind where Walker was at the same time. Yes, I expect some dropoff due to lack of experience......but there is a bit more than that here. Also, maybe since NDSU is willing to take chances on 6 foot tall QB's they might try one who is 6'3. And don't say only FBS teams get QB's that tall. There are a bunch of them in FCS and DII. SDSU seems to be able to find a couple. Oh yeah, Walker was special......but just think if NDSU had a QB like the one who played for Delaware?Quote:
Originally Posted by silkamilkamonico
SD, I agree with you. QB will be the biggest question mark. I am a more of lets wait and see what happens. All of spring ball and fall two a days working with the first offense should help out these guys, but after walker it is natural to expect a letdown. I have catious optimism. I am not disagreeing with you, just waiting to see what happens.Quote:
Originally Posted by SDbison
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Originally Posted by SDbison
Of course they're way behind Walker. Walker's playing and progressing, and they weren't.
If a QB is 6"3" and has "talent", he's getting looks by several mid major FBS+teams.
FCS and D2 are flooded with 6'3" QB's who don't have talent, but have been coached up, which with the benefit of hindsight plays a more important role than talent.
Yea there are exceptions, but let's be real, just because we're NDSU doesn't mean we're privy to those exceptions.
I would hardly consider SDSU QB's "talents". Then again, if they're 6'3", who cares if they can actually play the game. They tall.
So you agree with me.......maybe one NDSU QB recruit could have size and be coached into playing better at the position. Seems that NDSU is willing to do this with one or two of the 6 foot QB's?Quote:
Originally Posted by silkamilkamonico
I take it you are being a smart ass with the last comment. Those so-so SDSU QB's burned NDSU a couple years ago and led their team to victory this past year.
I don't understand why 6'3" makes them better. I'm sure the Walker height argument has been brought up so I won't even go there.Quote:
Originally Posted by SDbison
You stated in an earlier post you didn't understand why Bohl wasn't going after 6'3" QB's "with talent".
I do agree that FCS and D2 are flooded with coached up 6'3" QB's, but I would hardly call the majority of them talented, especially coming out of high school. I also think size is overrated at the QB position in FCS.
Ryan Berry for SDSU last year was 14-23 for 104 yards.
Andy kardoes was benched 3 years ago, and 2 years ago threw for 22-38 338, 2 TD's 2 interceptions in a loss. His stats throughout the year was above average at best. Not impressed by their 6'3" QB's.
Just a FYI. Joe Flacco transfered from Pit. Talent+size like that rarely if ever lands in the hands of a FCS team straight out of HS. I've been trying to tell this for a while now, but NDSU can also get transfers and they don't even have to sign on signing day. Take a chill pill and trust Bohl's recruiting. He must be doing something right to turn in the records he has had the last few years. 10-1 x2 doesn't happen by mistake especially when the list of victories includes 3 FBS teams all on the road.Quote:
Originally Posted by SDbison
All I can say is Coach Vigen does a great job with our quarterbacks. We will be fine. Years ago when Mark Speral graduated. Was Mark Nellermoe going to do the job. Yes he did lead the Bison to the National Championship in 1981. Every year you wonder if this athlete will step up etc. I have great faith in this staff. These kids they recruit are great young men and winners on and off the field.
No worries, if Mertens isn't good (I think he will be) we'll put in Parsons and run the split back veer with our 10 RBs!!
Hell Yeah!!:cheers:Quote:
Originally Posted by Gully
How about direct snap to DJ
I'm sure Mertens is 6'2. That's close enough to 6'3 for me! I don't think the height is all it is cracked up to be anyway. I think Walker was barely 6' but they listed him taller. Who cares. So many other things are more important than the height.
Introducing Your #2 Qb!!!!
Jose Mohler!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Someone Check On His Grades Please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Lets leave checking on his grades to the complaince officer...Quote:
Originally Posted by lakesbison
That's just plain silly.Quote:
Originally Posted by imabison
actually it doesnt matter.... dude starts college Fresh gradewise!.
he will play right away... especially now with brekke.. I have "PEOPLE" in San Diego.. aka.. Whale's Vagina... that tell me the kid is the real deal...
cant wait to see him chuck it deep....
PS> EVERYONE GO BACK AND WATCH HIS VIDEOS ON FIRST POST... GET TO KNOW JOSE!!!
Heck, maybe lakes could tutor the kid if needed. I've always felt lakes has enough intelligence to spare. Why waste it all coming up with Bison cheers?Quote:
Originally Posted by TransAmBison
I wonder how he will peform outside up north at the newly remodeled 35,000 seat Memorial Stadium when it's -10 deg. his senior year, or maybe his junior year???
LOL, I thought of that today and laughed.