2021 Verbal: Cole Payton

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Originally Posted by Kevin

I can't imagine anyone wanting to move to RB after seeing how the last two years has played out for that squad.

Cole would unironically get more yards and carries by staying #2 qb in this system.

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although he might actually get more yards if they would just let him launch a 50-50 ball every now and then.

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Originally Posted by El_Chapo

NDSU should play the best player.
COLE would make ALL the same throws as CAM with the good pass protection AND add in even more highlight runs.

We've seen Cam's Ceiling, We haven't even seen a unleashed Cole Payton.
And I will stand by my statement that I want Cam to move on to NFL and allow Cole Payton 2 years at NDSU as QB1.

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Cam is not going to the NFL and Cole has been very underwhelming throwing the ball. There is absolutely zero evidence that he can make all the throws that Cam is making. Zero. On the plus side though he IS better at hitting dirt than hitting players with the wrong color costume.

63% completion 3 tds 0 int in shit situations

450 yards and 8 tds rushing 7.5 yards per attempt

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Originally Posted by El_Chapo

NDSU should play the best player.
COLE would make ALL the same throws as CAM with the good pass protection AND add in even more highlight runs.

We've seen Cam's Ceiling, We haven't even seen a unleashed Cole Payton.
And I will stand by my statement that I want Cam to move on to NFL and allow Cole Payton 2 years at NDSU as QB1.

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Ceiling of the #1 rated qb in FCS?

So much nonsense in this post. I applaud the effort.

This is one of the strangest hills to die on I've ever witnessed in the history of the internet.

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Originally Posted by daddy daycare

This is one of the strangest hills to die on I've ever witnessed in the history of the internet.

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Yeah, but remember he already died on Mt Zeb and Mt Quincy so it's par for the course.

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Originally Posted by daddy daycare

This is one of the strangest hills to die on I've ever witnessed in the history of the internet.

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Meh. you don't know what your missing if Cole Had every Snap, so how the F would you know how it would play out? maybe we'd be at 11-0 instead of stupid freaking 8-3

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Originally Posted by El_Chapo

Meh. you don't know what your missing if Cole Had every Snap, so how the F would you know how it would play out? maybe we'd be at 11-0 instead of stupid freaking 8-3

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Or maybe 5-6...so everyone could bitch more. Wish in one hand , poop in the other...see which gets full first.

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Originally Posted by KSBisonFan

Yeah, but remember he already died on Mt Zeb and Mt Quincy so it's par for the course.

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And a massive boner for Christian Ponder for the Vikings.

This may even top that.

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Originally Posted by El_Chapo

Meh. you don't know what your missing if Cole Had every Snap, so how the F would you know how it would play out? maybe we'd be at 11-0 instead of stupid freaking 8-3

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Yeah, cuz Cam is the reason we lost those games.:facepalm::facepalm:

I'd take Cole at UND in a heartbeat ... in the RB room.

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Originally Posted by KSBisonFan

Yeah, cuz Cam is the reason we lost those games.:facepalm::facepalm:

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cam has more losses than the 3 QB's before him combined.

I could point to the awful interception at und when ndsu was driving and TD makes it 24-17 & the entire city of grand forks puckers their butt so hard they are sucked into a worm hole.

I could point to the INT in 2nd drive vs USD.

But I wont... I'll take the high road.

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Originally Posted by El_Chapo

cam has more losses than the 3 QB's before him combined.

I could point to the awful interception at und when ndsu was driving and TD makes it 24-17 & the entire city of grand forks puckers their butt so hard they are sucked into a worm hole.

I could point to the INT in 2nd drive vs USD.

But I wont... I'll take the high road.

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Cole single handedly lost NDSU two games and he's the backup

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Originally Posted by reformedUNDfan

Cole single handedly lost NDSU two games and he's the backup

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Lol I get this is probably hyperbole because of who you’re arguing with but that is nonsense.

Cam is one of the best QBs I've seen at NDSU. Cole is one of the most exciting players I've seen with the ball in his hands.

Not really seeing a problem that couldn't be fixed by bEtTeR pLaYcAlLiNg! /s

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Originally Posted by tony

Cam is one of the best QBs I've seen at NDSU. Cole is one of the most exciting players I've seen with the ball in his hands.

Not really seeing a problem that couldn't be fixed by bEtTeR pLaYcAlLiNg! /s

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Or better defense.

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Originally Posted by tony

Cam is one of the best QBs I've seen at NDSU. Cole is one of the most exciting players I've seen with the ball in his hands.

Not really seeing a problem that couldn't be fixed by bEtTeR pLaYcAlLiNg! /s

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I don’t understand why you made that purple bro

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Originally Posted by El_Chapo

cam has more losses than the 3 QB's before him combined.

I could point to the awful interception at und when ndsu was driving and TD makes it 24-17 & the the entire city of grand forks puckers their butt so hard they are sucked into a worm hole.

I could point to the INT in 2nd drive vs USD.

But I wont... I'll take the high road.

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Where do people find these figures of speech?

Have you been a fickin idiot your whole life?

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Originally Posted by NI4NI

Lots of thoughts regarding previous replies...
First the Nebraska remark - They have a full stable of QB's and Chubba looked quite capable of being their 1 moving forward.
Now on Cole's less than reliable ability to make clinch throws - Can you remember the past few years? That was Cam until this season.
Do we know Cole wants to move on if Cam returns?
In a perfect world we will have another season of both of them with Cole seeing more series than he did this year.
Regardless of what any of us armchair coaches want to see, you cannot push Cam out so Cole can shine. Why would anyone commit to the Bison moving forward if they set such a selfish precedent? If Cole cannot earn number one, he remains the 2.
Both understand how the portal operates and neither are being held here against their will.

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I dont think it really sets a bad precedent. Its just sorta reality right now. Lots of 5th year guys probably being gently nudged out the door.

The second thing I learned in today's presser. Did you all know that they have a Leadership Council? Guess who is on it. That's right, Cole Payton. I especially appreciate who gets to vote. I don't imagine Cole is going anywhere anytime soon other than perhaps Frisco, TX (and intermediate stops between.)


Edit: this ties in to Slick's observation re academics. There is a whole lot of "right stuff" goin on in the dark for this wretched 3 loss program. A lot of right stuff where nobody is lookin. It's enough to make an alum proud. Ya know?

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Originally Posted by ByeSonBusiness

I dont think it really sets a bad precedent. It's just sorta reality right now. Lots of 5th year guys probably being gently nudged out the door.

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If it wasn't for a full bouquet of sixth year guys would SDSU be on top of the mountain today?

I’m diggin the optimism, Greeny. Damn near admirable.

Gotta say, with this thread, Chapo gave a master class in trolling. Said some stupid sh#t and generated 40 comments on a Monday.

Well played. Well played.

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Originally Posted by SoCalBison

Gotta say, with this thread, Chapo gave a master class in trolling. Said some stupid sh#t and generated 40 comments on a Monday.

Well played. Well played.

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Careful there SoCal, I'm retired. I respond to chapstick when I want and/or when I have nothing at all better to do or I am trying to avoid same. I just might not be alone.

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Originally Posted by SoCalBison

Gotta say, with this thread, Chapo gave a master class in trolling. Said some stupid sh#t and generated 40 comments on a Monday.

Well played. Well played.

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All The thanksgiving football spots are sold already i was bored today

Don’t ever change bville

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Originally Posted by SoCalBison

Gotta say, with this thread, Chapo gave a master class in trolling. Said some stupid sh#t and generated 40 comments on a Monday.

Well played. Well played.

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And if you think Chapo was trolling……sigh…:)

What really happened was he got caught, as you said, making sh#t up,
both here - where he keeps going after the Bison QB -
and over on the Montana State thread where 56
caught him trying to take credit for something a
Highway Patrol Officer did.

Why do you think he has been flying around on all the different threads posting like a drunken Fighting Hawks hockey fan…???

A - Hoping everyone forgets those things plus mtoutfitter calling him out…

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Originally Posted by bruinbison

And if you think Chapo was trolling……sigh…:)

What really happened was he got caught, as you said, making sh#t up,
both here - where he keeps going after the Bison QB -
and over on the Montana State thread where 56
caught him trying to take credit for something a
Highway Patrol Officer did.

Why do you think he has been flying around on all the different threads posting like a drunken Fighting Hawks hockey fan…???

A - Hoping everyone forgets those things plus mtoutfitter calling him out…

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I just got on BV and there were 16 threads with new posts. Chapo was the last poster on 12 of them. JFC

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Originally Posted by tony

Cam is one of the best QBs I've seen at NDSU. Cole is one of the most exciting players I've seen with the ball in his hands.

Not really seeing a problem that couldn't be fixed by bEtTeR pLaYcAlLiNg! /s

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One of the best? Not better than Brock Trey Easton or Carson.

Is he better than Steve Walker?


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Originally Posted by steelbison

One of the best? Not better than Brock Trey Easton or Carson.

Is he better than Steve Walker?


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He can run better than Walker but thats about it.

Until Cole Payton starts and plays every offensive snap for a full game, nobody really has any kind of real handle on what his level of play at QB can actually be. All of this speculation about his accuracy is bullshit. What we do know, he is dynamite with the ball in his hands.

His HS tape passing the ball was beyond impressive. He throws a beautiful, eminently catchable ball. His arm is strong. Whether or not he has the accuracy and timing to hit guys at the right time and place against top FCS defenses remains to be seen.

If he ever gets the chance to develop, he has everything there to play on Sundays.

Only an idiot would wait behind Cam Miller when a potential NFL career awaits him.

I'm telling you, the kid is gone; unless coach makes a bold move.

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Originally Posted by 56BISON73

I just got on BV and there were 16 threads with new posts. Chapo was the last poster on 12 of them. JFC

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I haven’t been on BV much lately in the last couple years, but frankly I’m surprised Chapo hasn’t been banned and had to change names again lately. I still prefer to refer to Sam as Lakes. That name and persona takes the cake!

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Originally Posted by Alsen

Until Cole Payton starts and plays every offensive snap for a full game, nobody really has any kind of real handle on what his level of play at QB can actually be. All of this speculation about his accuracy is bullshit. What we do know, he is dynamite with the ball in his hands.

His HS tape passing the ball was beyond impressive. He throws a beautiful, eminently catchable ball. His arm is strong. Whether or not he has the accuracy and timing to hit guys at the right time and place against top FCS defenses remains to be seen.

If he ever gets the chance to develop, he has everything there to play on Sundays.

Only an idiot would wait behind Cam Miller when a potential NFL career awaits him.

I'm telling you, the kid is gone; unless coach makes a bold move.

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I agree, but making statements like this will offend the Cam lovers here. One thing is for sure, when the Bison get behind in an important game Cam has yet to prove he can put the team on his back and lead the Bison to victory.

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Originally Posted by SDbison

I agree, but making statements like this will offend the Cam lovers here. One thing is for sure, when the Bison get behind in an important game Cam has yet to prove he can put the team on his back and lead the Bison to victory.

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Weren’t we trailing in the 2 nd half in both the ‘21 and ‘22 semifinal games?

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Originally Posted by NDSU_grad

Weren’t we trailing in the 2 nd half in both the ‘21 and ‘22 semifinal games?

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You know what I am referring to (game ending drives). Not halftime scores unless down by something like 3 TDs.

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Originally Posted by SDbison

You know what I am referring to (game ending drives). Not halftime scores unless down by something like 3 TDs.

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We were down to JMU going into the 4th quarter.

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Originally Posted by Alsen

Until Cole Payton starts and plays every offensive snap for a full game, nobody really has any kind of real handle on what his level of play at QB can actually be. All of this speculation about his accuracy is bullshit. What we do know, he is dynamite with the ball in his hands.

His HS tape passing the ball was beyond impressive. He throws a beautiful, eminently catchable ball. His arm is strong. Whether or not he has the accuracy and timing to hit guys at the right time and place against top FCS defenses remains to be seen.

If he ever gets the chance to develop, he has everything there to play on Sundays.

Only an idiot would wait behind Cam Miller when a potential NFL career awaits him.

I'm telling you, the kid is gone; unless coach makes a bold move.

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Coach doesnt have the stones and you are correct Alsen. (sitting idle while a wentz/lance type is right here will really hurt this program)

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Originally Posted by TransAmBison

We were down to JMU going into the 4th quarter.

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SD is referring to last possession type of drives ......... like Arizona last year, like the bunny game 2 years ago, et al ......

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Originally Posted by southcliffbison

SD is referring to last possession type of drives ......... like Arizona last year, like the bunny game 2 years ago, et al ......

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“Et al” or is that literally all…?