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Remember when the B1G said no more FCS games (and has since softened)?
Now the ACC is saying "no" to ... G5 games.
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Coming off a year in which the ACC played 10 road games at non-Power 5 opponents — and lost three of them — schools received new guidance from the league office: Don’t.
While the nonconference portions of the schedules to be released Monday are often set years if not decades in advance, the ACC has asked schools to schedule most, if not all, of their future nonconference road games at either Power 5 teams or Army.
Read more at: https://www.newsobserver.com/sports/...#storylink=cpy
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The_Sicatoka
No G5 road games is very distinct from no G5 games.
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time to get this FBS bus moving
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ByeSonBusiness
No G5 road games is very distinct from no G5 games.
It's also just the commissioner asking members. Not binding in any way.
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ByeSonBusiness
No G5 road games is very distinct from no G5 games.
True, but you see the ACC view of G5: They may come and serve us but we shall not sully ourselves by visiting them.
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El_Chapo
time to get this FBS bus moving
Should we gather and protest outside the offices.
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The_Sicatoka
True, but you see the ACC view of G5: They may come and serve us but we shall not sully ourselves by visiting them.
That is honestly the P5 view in general. They see themselves above G5.
ACC took some losses to the SBC last year, so now this is the reaction.
When you do see P5 play at a G5, most of the time it is at the larger stadiums that can seat 30-40k+, not a 20k one.
UNC at App St last year had about 35k attendance.
P5 would prefer to have all G5 games at home. They view G5 games about the same as FCS buy games.
There has also been talk of increasing the number of conference games in the B1G so they don't play as many G5 teams.
An ideal P5 schedule (in their mind) would be 11 P5 games, and one weak G5 buy game as a warmup.
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I see the P5 as above G5 too. I would prefer all our OOC games at home, as well. I would be delighted to never play an FCS school again. However, nothing is fair and none of this is easy. The folks with the big money dictate policy.
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MWC
I see the P5 as above G5 too. I would prefer all our OOC games at home, as well. I would be delighted to never play an FCS school again. However, nothing is fair and none of this is easy. The folks with the big money dictate policy.
True, and most of those policies are engineered to keep the big money teams entrenched. Whether that's the Portal and NIL, or scheduling, or CFP. It is all designed to favor the Georgia, Bama, and OSU's of FBS.
There's a lot more parity in FCS, and a team like Incarnate Word has legitimate hopes of being the champion some day. FIU and SHSU do not.
All of this in my mind is why it's critical to join the *right* fbs conference, not just any conference.
The teams in your conference are the only games you are guaranteed to play, and that competition will impact both how the team is perceived and the level of competition. AAC or MWC would give us some great games. Far less so anywhere else.
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Here is a excerpt from the Athletic from a piece about new MW Commissioner, Gloria Nevarez...Though the article is mostly about where the MW is now it does have this blurb. wicker is from SDSU.
“If an opportunity comes to anyone to elevate, no one is going to say no,” Wicker said. “We’ll continue to be the best San Diego State we can be and see where that leads up. We’ll work with Gloria and the Mountain West to make sure we’re being the best partner to everyone we can be.”
What the Mountain West does in response depends on what happens. If it loses one or multiple teams, does it need replacements? There aren’t many geographic fits in the FBS outside of UTEP or New Mexico State in Conference USA. North Dakota State is one of the most successful teams at any level of football, with nine FCS national championships in the past 12 years, and it has prepared itself for an FBS move if the right fit comes. South Dakota State just beat NDSU in the FCS championship game and is amid its best football run in school history, and Montana and Montana State have winning football traditions, though their athletic budgets are far below current MWC teams.
A year ago, after pushing back a raid attempt by the AAC, the Mountain West considered expanding into Texas to add FBS schools like North Texas, UTSA or Rice from Conference USA. Some administrators in the MWC, speaking on the condition of anonymity, wanted to do it, but the league presidents decided not to expand. That was in part because individual schools would have made less television money by dividing the pie more ways, a source with knowledge of the situation told The Athletic at the time. Those Texas schools instead moved to the AAC. The MWC administrators who wanted to get into Texas still see it as a missed opportunity, especially if the MWC loses teams.
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There is also this..I do believe you have been vetted..
what that means going forward, I have no idea.
“You can’t be reactive,” Nevarez said. “You have to keep relationships warm, keep your ear to the ground to assess what’s rumor and what might have legs. I don’t know if you can prevent being totally caught off-guard, but even a day or 48 hours heads up, you’re better off. Concurrently, plan for losing school A, B or C. Have contingencies ready, schools that could potentially join. That’s all you can do at this point. What I like about the Mountain West, despite being an original disrupter, they’ve had stability.”
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Gloria got my emails... Lets go girl!!@
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MWC
There is also this..I do believe you have been vetted..
what that means going forward, I have no idea.
“You can’t be reactive,” Nevarez said. “You have to keep relationships warm, keep your ear to the ground to assess what’s rumor and what might have legs. I don’t know if you can prevent being totally caught off-guard, but even a day or 48 hours heads up, you’re better off. Concurrently, plan for losing school A, B or C. Have contingencies ready, schools that could potentially join. That’s all you can do at this point. What I like about the Mountain West, despite being an original disrupter, they’ve had stability.”
MWC really feels like a great fit.
- $4M media payout instead of $2M with AAC or $800k with cusa
- great home games and respected opponents every year
- actually play Saturday games in the months of Sep and Oct.
When this happens, all the whiners here who wanted to go to a crap conference better be kissing ML's ass with apologies.
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For a lot of people it’s gotten to the point where if he takes NDSU FBS people will love him, if he doesn’t people will hate him. No in between.
Similar to how every year is championship or bust in the football program.
Not super healthy
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We don't know what the tv deal will be after 2026 and the MW is unlikely to add anyone until the contract runs out.
We don't know who will or won't be in the MW going forward.
I think it is likely you have been vetted to some extent, so have other schools..That seems like a prudent thing to do but doesn't necessarily mean invitations will be going out.
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BigHorns
MWC really feels like a great fit.
- $4M media payout instead of $2M with AAC or $800k with cusa
- great home games and respected opponents every year
- actually play Saturday games in the months of Sep and Oct.
When this happens, all the whiners here who wanted to go to a crap conference better be kissing ML's ass with apologies.
I'd be curious to see ratings of mid-week games versus Saturday 10p ET games. And you may only host 1 or 2 mid-week games. At least half of your conference games will be late starts. Not sure if they would have home games start at 9p CT for the broadcast window.
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I don't think there will be many, if any, midweek football games. Not all on Saturday either. Friday games are common. However, there will be several games that start at 8 PM PST. That would be 10 for you folks.
Games played in Hawaii start at 9 PM PST so 11 for you.
If I were King, I would prefer doing away with the football part of the tv deal and just play Saturday games at 1 PM local time. Attendance would shoot way up. MW basketball could probably get a decent deal, particularly if they add a couple good basketball only programs.
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MWC
I don't think there will be many, if any, midweek football games. Not all on Saturday either. Friday games are common. However, there will be several games that start at 8 PM PST. That would be 10 for you folks.
Games played in Hawaii start at 9 PM PST so 11 for you.
If I were King, I would prefer doing away with the football part of the tv deal and just play Saturday games at 1 PM local time. Attendance would shoot way up. MW basketball could probably get a decent deal, particularly if they add a couple good basketball only programs.
I was comparing for those who want MWC to avoid the mid-week games of the other conferences. You are just trading one inconvenience for another. Neither are ideal and geography is an issue as well.
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There are certain people for whom a move to FBS is about the prestige and visibility of the program. As much as I'd personally love the Bison joining the MWC because of the proximity to me and my ability to travel a bit more easily to some away games, it won't help as much with national exposure given the time that many games are played in the west.
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Brett McMurphy
@Brett_McMurphy
Pac-12 commish George Kliavkoff visiting SMU Wednesday, sources told
@ActionNetworkHQ
. San Diego State & SMU are top Pac-12 expansion candidates. Pac-12 needs more members & more inventory for new media rights deal, which is expected to rely heavily on digital streaming services
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My Source " if SMU and San Diego State leaves for Pac 12, Mountain West will more likely go for UTEP & NDSU "
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El_Chapo
My Source " if SMU and San Diego State leaves for Pac 12, Mountain West will more likely go for UTEP & NDSU "
Who's grandma is talking in her sleep again?
I kid, I kid.
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Gloria Gloria !!!! come get NDSU !! Drop them an Email or phone call!
Gloria Nevarez Commissioner (719) 488-4047 gnevarez@theMW.com
Bret Gilliland Deputy Commissioner (719) 488-4045 bgilliland@TheMW.com
Carolayne Henry Senior Associate Commissioner, Governance & Legal Affairs / SWA (719) 488-4043 cehenry@TheMW.com
Niko Roberts Associate Commissioner, Men's & Women's Basketball (719) 487-2468 nroberts@TheMW.com
Kim Melcher Assistant Commissioner (719) 488-4050 kmelcher@TheMW.com
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El_Chapo
This post makes no sense
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El_Chapo
What could possibly go wrong
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should get this back. "Thanks for reaching out, you have a passionate fanbase, thanks for the information & pictures"
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El_Chapo
should get this back. "Thanks for reaching out, you have a passionate fanbase, thanks for the information & pictures"
In the MW, the commissioner doesn't have a vote on who gets invited or not. She will provide background info and possibly make a recommendation but the presidents decide everything.
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El_Chapo
should get this back. "Thanks for reaching out, you have a passionate fanbase, thanks for the information & pictures"
Do not tell me you are sending pictures to the commissioner of the Mountain West lol
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NDSU92
Do not tell me you are sending pictures to the commissioner of the Mountain West lol
Psycho gold standard has been achieved.
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MWC
In the MW, the commissioner doesn't have a vote on who gets invited or not. She will provide background info and possibly make a recommendation but the presidents decide everything.
Yeah and that "background info" is going to include the statement "one nutjob even emailed me pics!" lmao
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I mean the guy "started" this thing that is Bison Nation... Why not capitalize on it?
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one day some poor commish of some G5 conference is going to end up in a hole in Lakes basement.
it puts the bison in the conference or it gets the hose again
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Kevin
one day some poor commish of some G5 conference is going to end up in a hole in Lakes basement.
it puts the bison in the conference or it gets the hose again
hahaha .... funny. pictures of tailgating & full loud stadium & travelling fanbase.
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El_Chapo
hahaha .... funny. pictures of tailgating & full loud stadium & travelling fanbase.
"I'd admit me. I'd admit me hard."
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The news that the Pac-12's new media deal is going to be heavily reliant on streaming is good news for NDSU-to-FBS momentum IMO. Assuming other conferences follow in future media deals it means that sizable TV markets won't be as important if no one in those markets cares to buy streaming subscriptions for C-list teams in those areas. NDSU would look more attractive given that fans in this area, even though we're fewer in number, are more willing to pony up on subscriptions to a streaming service.
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Kevin
one day some poor commish of some G5 conference is going to end up in a hole in Lakes basement.
it puts the bison in the conference or it gets the hose again
It does have a bit of a Misery vibe, doesn't it....
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El_Chapo
hahaha .... funny. pictures of tailgating & full loud stadium & travelling fanbase.
it's a 4D picture with sound?
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Professor Chaos
The news that the Pac-12's new media deal is going to be heavily reliant on streaming is good news for NDSU-to-FBS momentum IMO. Assuming other conferences follow in future media deals it means that sizable TV markets won't be as important if no one in those markets cares to buy streaming subscriptions for C-list teams in those areas. NDSU would look more attractive given that fans in this area, even though we're fewer in number, are more willing to pony up on subscriptions to a streaming service.
This makes sense and I sure home you're right. I could use a reason to have some enthusiasm.
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El_Chapo
should get this back. "Thanks for reaching out, you have a passionate fanbase, thanks for the information & pictures"
:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::eeek::eee k:
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Does Gloria have a grandmother we could have Lakes get in touch with?
