I'll say it. I don't think he should.Quote:
Originally Posted by heffray
There I said it.
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I'll say it. I don't think he should.Quote:
Originally Posted by heffray
There I said it.
Chapo has a vagina.
There, I said it.
What's funny is you accusing someone of not having balls.Quote:
Originally Posted by El_Chapo
well this is false. but you're the guy in Oregon so I understand your confusion and forgive youQuote:
Originally Posted by OrygunBison
Oh my lord, BUUURRRRNNN! You got me, Lakesha.Quote:
Originally Posted by El_Chapo
From what I saw today I agree and I’m not only talking individual play. If that is the game plan we are going to go with on offense then start the horse.Quote:
Originally Posted by heffray
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I love that we can disagree and still be friends.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bisonator98
Coles chance will come when Cam has graduated.
I think Cam should still start but Cole needs more reps. I like the whole give him a series or 3 instead of a play or 3Quote:
Originally Posted by heffray
Agree and maybe do this in the first half when it matters now.Quote:
Originally Posted by HerdBot
You're making stuff up and just throwing spaghetti on the wall. I don't recall anyone saying that about Brock. The knock on him was that he seemed incredibly brittle in his first year...which seems absurdly silly now, of course. But most people wanted Brock anyway because he COULD throw and the alternative was Jose, who couldn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by steelbison
Nobody really seemed to push back on Easton either. He became a starter way too early and proved he could do it right away. I remember folks being surprised, and knowing that he was a much better runner than passer right away but to say everyone bitched about Easton is hyperbolic.
I agree that Cole needs reps. But it would be just stupid for them to be starter reps. He's been in the system for 3 years and HAS put some stuff on film. His running ability might be the best we've had at NDSU during the D1 era. His passing is even worse than Jose or QP, though, which is saying alot. I hope that I'm wrong about him and that after a few games running the offense by himself from mid 3rd quarter on, he comes into his own.
I don't predict scores but I will predict this: the two QB rotation is going to be all the rage here until that game where neither is having a good day and then its all going to be about not getting them into a rhythm. That day is coming.
Will we ever get a chance to see what Cole can really do? Or will
He leave before we see his true potential?
I've seen it with my eyes too.Quote:
Originally Posted by steelbison
The pass that Cole threw to Chris Harris was a great pass. Give him some more of those opportunities. I did think they gave him more opportunities, but protection broke down and he had to scrabble and then ended up running. But the way he runs, I don't blame him for taking off right away. Also, that's a problem that Cam has in that he keeps running around after protection breaks down, but he's not fast enough or elusive enough to avoid a deep sack. Cole, on the other can take off and get a first down or touchdown.
Did anyone catch the post-game press conference when Cole W was talking about Cole P and what he's like in practice and he said something to the effect of, "Cole's a really good athlete, he really throws the ball well ..." and then he kind of paused and looked like he had said something he shouldn't have said. It may have been nothing, but to me it seemed like he was giving away a secret that he shouldn't have.
Cole drive vs MSU
1 minute 1 touchdown
Cole 6 yard run
Cole 15 yard pass to Brozio
Cole hand off to Kpennu 7 yards
Cole 17 yard TD RUN
boom that easy and that quick
Cam was 16 of 20 (80%) with 256 yards passing, 2 passing TD's, 0 INT's, 33 yards rushing on 6 carries (all but 2 were scrambles), with 1 TD rushing.
Yet you keep pushing Cole as being the next coming. Just brilliant.
Cam is having his best season by far.Quote:
Originally Posted by OrygunBison
Here's a dirty little secret - Cam Miller's season passing stats:Quote:
Originally Posted by ndsubison1
2021: 103-152 (67.8%), 1444 yards (9.5 YPA), 14 TDs, 3 INTs, 174.0 QB rating
2022: 160-243 (65.8%), 1975 yards (8.1 YPA), 13 TDs, 5 INTs, 147.7 QB rating
2023: 84-107 (78.5%), 941 yards (8.8 YPA), 7 TDs, 1 INT, 172.1 QB rating
Everyone loves to remember his awful semifinal game last year but he's been the model of what a Bison QB should be over the last 3 years. Trey Lance had a QB rating of 180.6 in 2019 and Easton Stick had a QB rating of 172.4 in 2018 (slightly above Cam this year but below what he did in 2021) - outside of that no Bison QB (which includes Brock Jensen, Carson Wentz, and Easton Stick 2015-2017) has beat Cam's passing efficiency in 2021 or this year so far. He is so much better than he gets credit for. I just wish Roehl would take the mother$&%*ing training wheels off and let him cook like he did in the first half against SDSU last year. This team will not beat SDSU or Montana St with Cole Payton at QB... with Cam they've got a shot.
Cole so versatile. Size/Speed to take top off a D, A bit of Debo S, Alvin Kamara .....a chess piece
that 4 play touchdown drive might be 1 of the best ndsu drives everQuote:
Originally Posted by sbark
https://i.imgur.com/XIHH9S7.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by El_Chapo
Yes, totally better than The Drive at KState or The drive to kick the field goal at Kinnick or the drive to win the semi finals game against GSU or ....Quote:
Originally Posted by El_Chapo
I finally found a legit use for ChatGPT (parody based on the Song "Ridin Dirty" by Chamillionaire:Quote:
Originally Posted by 56BISON73
(Chorus)
They see me postin’, they hatin’,
Patrollin’ they tryna catch me postin' dirty,
Tryna catch me postin' dirty, tryna catch me postin' dirty,
My comments so loud, I’m swangin’,
They hopin’ that they gon catch me postin' dirty,
Tryna catch me postin' dirty, tryna catch me postin' dirty.
(Verse 1)
Lakes, aka LakeBison, keyboard warrior elite,
On the message boards, my trolling can’t be beat,
Green and yellow, NDSU, I bleed,
FCS ain’t enough, FBS we need.
Got memes for days, and my GIF game strong,
I’m the king of the threads, where I belong,
Every post I make, a lyrical song,
In the world of the boards, I’m Donkey Kong.
(Chorus)
They see me postin’, they hatin’,
Patrollin’ they tryna catch me postin' dirty,
Tryna catch me postin' dirty, tryna catch me postin' dirty,
My comments so loud, I’m swangin’,
They hopin’ that they gon catch me postin' dirty,
Tryna catch me postin' dirty, tryna catch me postin' dirty.
(Verse 2)
I got aliases, a dozen or two,
Every time I’m banned, I come back brand new,
LakeBison’s the name, causing a zoo,
In the world of the net, I’m the taboo.
I stir the pot, with my golden spoon,
Under the moon, or the sun at noon,
I’m the melody to every troll’s tune,
In the chat rooms, I’m the monsoon.
(Chorus)
They see me postin’, they hatin’,
Patrollin’ they tryna catch me postin' dirty,
Tryna catch me postin' dirty, tryna catch me postin' dirty,
My comments so loud, I’m swangin’,
They hopin’ that they gon catch me postin' dirty,
Tryna catch me postin' dirty, tryna catch me postin' dirty.
(Outro)
NDSU, to the FBS we rise,
With LakeBison leading, it’s no surprise,
On the message boards, where my empire lies,
I’m the troll you despise, but wise in my own eyes.
They see me postin’, they hatin’,
But in the world of the net, I’m the king, no debatin’,
LakeBison, the legend, forever resonatin’,
In the halls of the boards, forever dominatin’.
I'll show myself out now....................
This is why I think we should occasionally use Cole...to prep him for next year... but stick with Cam as #1 this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Professor Chaos
Hall of Fame worthy!!Quote:
Originally Posted by tjamz
But Cam will be back next year.Quote:
Originally Posted by SoCalBison
1 of the best. top 5 worthyQuote:
Originally Posted by TAILG8R
I didn’t even see the drive and I know it can’t be top 20. No way no how. Nothing against misery state counts for much of anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by El_Chapo
4 Plays 1:51 7 Points
1st & 10 at NDSU 47
(12:53 - 2nd) Cole Payton run for 4 yds to the MOST 49
2nd & 6 at MOST 49
(12:53 - 2nd) Cole Payton pass complete to Hunter Brozio for 16 yds to the MOST 33 for a 1ST down
1st & 10 at MOST 33
(12:53 - 2nd) Barika Kpeenu run for 13 yds to the MOST 20 for a 1ST down
1st & 10 at MOST 20
(11:02 - 2nd) Cole Payton run for 20 yds for a TD (Griffin Crosa KICK)
You probably also have drives by Quincy and Zeb in your top 5. :facepalm2::facepalm2:Quote:
Originally Posted by El_Chapo
ZEB = every game before halftime :) hahaQuote:
Originally Posted by KSBisonFan
Start cole payton the rest of the way
cams interception while it was 28-17 & ndsu was driving lost us the game. Period
cole's got that crazy left hand wind up that is weird to watch but he made some nice passes this year. would love to see him get a whole half in a semi-meaningful game like uni
But Cole's fumbled snap on third and short didn't?Quote:
Originally Posted by El_Chapo
that was clearly the centers fault bro he snapped it right into his numbers everyone knows that left handers want the snap closer to the shins.Quote:
Originally Posted by tolnabison
Didnt see him again for quite awhile after that.
Haha! No kidding.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kevin
I thought Cam was our best player today. Not sure that's saying much.
Is this kid gone next year? Cam is coming back he says.... Does he bolt for greener pastures?