Re: UND post-game thoughts.
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BadlandsBison
Hey CAS, Does it seem like we've gotten away from drive blocking? Seems like we either try to zone block or pull both guards which is really slow to develop
Yes, and traps. Our blocking schemes seem to have changed for sure; and with the size we have on OL, that's a shame. Recall peeps were saying preseason this is best OL we have ever had?! Have not come close to proving that IMO. I know there have been some injuries, but will stand by my position that we have had several better lines than this version. Haeg even got his ass kicked/burned by no-name this weekend.
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Yeah it seems we are getting away from the west coast offense and replacing with that zone read stuff. I'd rather see the 2006-2007 or 2013 Bison offense and keep that zone read stuff in the hip pocket.
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Re: UND post-game thoughts.
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CAS4127
Yes, and traps. Our blocking schemes seem to have changed for sure; and with the size we have on OL, that's a shame. Recall peeps were saying preseason this is best OL we have ever had?! Have not come close to proving that IMO. I know there have been some injuries, but will stand by my position that we have had several better lines than this version. Haeg even got his ass kicked/burned by no-name this weekend.
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So...is this the OC making these changes? If so...why this year or were we seeing this last year too?
Re: UND post-game thoughts.
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CAS4127
Yes, and traps. Our blocking schemes seem to have changed for sure; and with the size we have on OL, that's a shame. Recall peeps were saying preseason this is best OL we have ever had?! Have not come close to proving that IMO. I know there have been some injuries, but will stand by my position that we have had several better lines than this version. Haeg even got his ass kicked/burned by no-name this weekend.
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That has been my impression with the blocking. We trying to be gimmicky when we don't have to be. But, we were still using more straight ahead drive blocking type stuff last year with the same staff, I say bring it back
Re: UND post-game thoughts.
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CAS4127
Yes, and traps. Our blocking schemes seem to have changed for sure; and with the size we have on OL, that's a shame. Recall peeps were saying preseason this is best OL we have ever had?! Have not come close to proving that IMO. I know there have been some injuries, but will stand by my position that we have had several better lines than this version. Haeg even got his ass kicked/burned by no-name this weekend.
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I haven't seen much in the trap business yet. Last year, we didn't trap and pull much until the conference schedule either. I think we have been about as vanilla as you can get on offense and only introducing a little bit here and there to get guys moving their feet. I have a feeling our line will look a lot different come October. Averaging 36+ points in OOC hasn't given the Bison any reason to do anything more. A lot of young guys playing on the line as well and I think the coaches have been introducing them to stuff slowly rather than pushing them in the deep end. Just get their feet wet and work from that. I will be concerned if our run game and blocking schemes still look the same in Brookings but I am confident there has been a method to the madness. I don't think there is any question we need to win the TOP game by a lot, so there shouldn't be any punches pulled starting out the conference schedule.
Re: UND post-game thoughts.
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CAS4127
I'll believe all of this when I see it. Understand what you are suggesting but, meh, not seeing it happen as of now.
Also, the who got way (+100?) more positive yards than the 61 credited with. TFL and sacks count as negative. I'd venture a guess they had 200+ positive yards. That's too much IMO.
From gobison.com
Here are the stats that confirm that the whioux did not reach 100 yards no matter how the numbers are manipulated.
UND:
61 total net yards on offense.
57 through the air &
4 yards net rushing.
TOTAL YARDS LOST (RUSHING):
38 yards
TOTAL GROUND YARDS LOST BY SACK:
27 yards
TOTAL GROUND YARDS LOST BY TFL:
11 yards.
I wouldn't add the TFL yards back in. But adding the sack yards back in only gives them a total of NET 88 yards. (COMBINATION OF BOTH RUN AND PASS)
If the TFL yards were to be added (TFL being the result of great defensive stops not related to kneel downs, sacks or whatever.)
then their total would be: 99 yards.
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Bisonville GasMan
So...is this the OC making these changes? If so...why this year or were we seeing this last year too?
Yes, OC. IMO, we are putting this season on the back of CW rather than a total team approach. We have literally change our offense in an effort to do so. We saw what happens in MT if he gets hurt. Y not have his running be an additional feature rather than first option feature.
I'll be very surprised if we go deep in POs with this offense ... unless out D keeps improving like it appears it is.
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IzzyFlexion
From gobison.com
Here are the stats that confirm that the whioux did not reach 100 yards no matter how the numbers are manipulated.
UND:
61 total net yards on offense.
57 through the air &
4 yards net rushing.
TOTAL YARDS LOST (RUSHING):
38 yards
TOTAL GROUND YARDS LOST BY SACK:
27 yards
TOTAL GROUND YARDS LOST BY TFL:
11 yards.
I wouldn't add the TFL yards back in. But adding the sack yards back in only gives them a total of NET 88 yards. (COMBINATION OF BOTH RUN AND PASS)
If the TFL yards were to be added (TFL being the result of great defensive stops not related to kneel downs, sacks or whatever.)
then their total would be: 99 yards.
I said total positive yards. Not arguing, just sayin'!
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td577
I haven't seen much in the trap business yet. Last year, we didn't trap and pull much until the conference schedule either. I think we have been about as vanilla as you can get on offense and only introducing a little bit here and there to get guys moving their feet. I have a feeling our line will look a lot different come October. Averaging 36+ points in OOC hasn't given the Bison any reason to do anything more. A lot of young guys playing on the line as well and I think the coaches have been introducing them to stuff slowly rather than pushing them in the deep end. Just get their feet wet and work from that. I will be concerned if our run game and blocking schemes still look the same in Brookings but I am confident there has been a method to the madness. I don't think there is any question we need to win the TOP game by a lot, so there shouldn't be any punches pulled starting out the conference schedule.
We'll see. Polasek last spring and pre-season said we were gonna have a big playbook because of CW. Again, we'll see.
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Regardless of how you figure the yardage the bottom line is that we only gave up nine points. If there had not been the breakdown in special teams they probably would not have scored period.
