A new and better FBS thread

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Originally Posted by taper

For the record, you actually believe there's a shadowy cabal preventing an FBS move?

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Weren’t you the one that said und was going to prevent it? Like they could
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Trust me on this: Our AD/staff have heard our message to move up and are working their collective asses to get there. Not an easy task …. at all.

They hear us and understand the landscape.

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Originally Posted by BigLakeBison

I believe there are a lot of misguided people just like yourself who have caused leadership to believe that all was good and that winning FCS championships forever was going to keep people engaged, even when the evidence was in direct opposition to that.

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I'll keep biting as long as you do. I've provided tons of real world evidence of why we need to be careful in this transition. All you've done is blame other people for it not happening on your time table.
Direct question to you. UMass is a former FCS champ and moved to FBS. Would you trade positions with them?

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Originally Posted by CAS4127

Trust me on this: Our AD/staff have heard our message to move up and are working their collective asses to get there. Not an easy task …. at all.

They hear us and understand the landscape.

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Great to hear! Wish they would have heard it sooner but better late than never.

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Originally Posted by WhoRepsTheLurker

Weren’t you the one that said und was going to prevent it? Like they could
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I said the State Board of Higher Ed could block our move. I was always completely open this is only conjecture, never claimed to have insider knowledge. I feel absolutely vindicated in this view after the California Board of Regents held meetings on blocking UCLA's move to the Big 10. The ND SBoHE without any doubt has the power to block a move to FBS. I don't know if they will, just that it is most certainly a possibility.

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Originally Posted by taper

I said the State Board of Higher Ed could block our move. I was always completely open this is only conjecture, never claimed to have insider knowledge. I feel absolutely vindicated in this view after the California Board of Regents held meetings on blocking UCLA's move to the Big 10. The ND SBoHE without any doubt has the power to block a move to FBS. I don't know if they will, just that it is most certainly a possibility.

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So then you believed in a "shadowy cabal" before BLB ever mentioned it

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Originally Posted by taper

I'll keep biting as long as you do. I've provided tons of real world evidence of why we need to be careful in this transition. All you've done is blame other people for it not happening on your time table.
Direct question to you. UMass is a former FCS champ and moved to FBS. Would you trade positions with them?

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You think you’ve provided evidence but all you’ve done is justified your own fear. None of it is evidence of anything. UMass has a terrible FBS football program but have an athletic department and University that have as much reputation if not more than NDSU. I wouldn’t trade with them because I’m a proud NDSU alum. But I also wouldn’t be ashamed to be a UMass alum and/or fan.

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Originally Posted by taper

I said the State Board of Higher Ed could block our move. I was always completely open this is only conjecture, never claimed to have insider knowledge. I feel absolutely vindicated in this view after the California Board of Regents held meetings on blocking UCLA's move to the Big 10. The ND SBoHE without any doubt has the power to block a move to FBS. I don't know if they will, just that it is most certainly a possibility.

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the NDSBOHE CAN NOT STOP NDSU FROM GOING FBS.

WHAT THE HELL.. HAHA

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Originally Posted by WhoRepsTheLurker

So then you believed in a "shadowy cabal" before BLB ever mentioned it

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No, not even close. The SBoHE might not be acting in NDSU's interests, but an elected body with open records laws is most definitely not a shadowy cabal. Their equivalent in CA is openly debating whether to block UCLA's move. Remember that I've never said the SBoHE is blocking this, only that they could.

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Originally Posted by taper

No, not even close. The SBoHE might not be acting in NDSU's interests, but an elected body with open records laws is most definitely not a shadowy cabal. Their equivalent in CA is openly debating whether to block UCLA's move. Remember that I've never said the SBoHE is blocking this, only that they could.

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Give me a legitimate reason why the SBOHE would prevent it
I don't care about ucla
We're talking about ND

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Originally Posted by taper

No, not even close. The SBoHE might not be acting in NDSU's interests, but an elected body with open records laws is most definitely not a shadowy cabal. Their equivalent in CA is openly debating whether to block UCLA's move. Remember that I've never said the SBoHE is blocking this, only that they could.

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SBoHE is not an elected body.

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Originally Posted by CAS4127

Trust me on this: Our AD/staff have heard our message to move up and are working their collective asses to get there. Not an easy task …. at all.

They hear us and understand the landscape.

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I trust you. I wish an expedited plan could take place.

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Originally Posted by taper

No, not even close. The SBoHE might not be acting in NDSU's interests, but an elected body with open records laws is most definitely not a shadowy cabal. Their equivalent in CA is openly debating whether to block UCLA's move. Remember that I've never said the SBoHE is blocking this, only that they could.

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That’s a really good Serwanga.

First 3 games alone would be worth it for me.
https://twitter.com/bearkatsfb/statu...5m2Dxpn_YYQqJg

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Originally Posted by CAS4127

Trust me on this: Our AD/staff have heard our message to move up and are working their collective asses to get there. Not an easy task …. at all.

They hear us and understand the landscape.

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No lies detected

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Originally Posted by Honeybooboo

Its not a joke, no link, feasibility is the issue if you ask me. Not sure i should share details on here but just telling people its not off the radar

Flame away if you want but its not BS

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Hmm...guess I was right

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Originally Posted by Honeybooboo

Dome expansion plans are drawn up, interesting concept but would work and be really cool and unique

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Yep.got neg rep for this.

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Originally Posted by 23Bison

First 3 games alone would be worth it for me.
https://twitter.com/bearkatsfb/statu...5m2Dxpn_YYQqJg

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Sure, if you love road games.
Here is what SHSU HOME schedule looks like next year:

Thursday, Sep 28: Jacksonville St
Wednesday, Oct 18: FIU
Wednesday, Oct 25: UTEP
Saturday, Nov 4: Kennesaw St
Saturday, Nov 25: Middle Tennessee

So only 2 Saturday games in November, against crappy teams.
Great for the fans, eh?

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Originally Posted by Honeybooboo

Yep.got neg rep for this.

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Seriously? That’s dumb. Why on earth would anyone neg rep you for just relaying what you saw…

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Originally Posted by BigHorns

Sure, if you love road games.
Here is what SHSU HOME schedule looks like next year:

Thursday, Sep 28: Jacksonville St
Wednesday, Oct 18: FIU
Wednesday, Oct 25: UTEP
Saturday, Nov 4: Kennesaw St
Saturday, Nov 25: Middle Tennessee

So only 2 Saturday games in November, against crappy teams.
Great for the fans, eh?

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I mean they’re playing Air Force in Houston as essentially a home game. They also have a road game at UH 30 minutes down the road.

I would absolutely trade regular season schedules with Sammy. Absolutely.

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Originally Posted by NDSU92

I mean they’re playing Air Force in Houston as essentially a home game. They also have a road game at UH 30 minutes down the road.

I would absolutely trade regular season schedules with Sammy. Absolutely.

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Playing at Houston is like us playing at the Gophers stadium and calling that a home game.

I enjoy attending Saturday home games.
SHSU has only 2 of those. In November. Against crappy CUSA teams.

Sorry, but MVFC home schedule is much better than this.

Generally, in the MW, schools only get two home games in November. Some years you get a great matchup. Some years you don't. That is pretty much true of every conference..

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Originally Posted by BigHorns

Playing at Houston is like us playing at the Gophers stadium and calling that a home game.

I enjoy attending Saturday home games.
SHSU has only 2 of those. In November. Against crappy CUSA teams.

Sorry, but MVFC home schedule is much better than this.

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Ya the closest FBS schools arent scheduling NDSU anytime soon regardless of FCS or FBS.

And those Tuesday Thursday games are trash.

other than that SHSU is probably the only school an average NDSU football fan even knows exists in the CUSA,

regardless….fuck it. Get r done. The kids will love whoever the eastern western directional school comes to fargo.

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Originally Posted by MWC

Generally, in the MW, schools only get two home games in November. Some years you get a great matchup. Some years you don't. That is pretty much true of every conference..

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Are you saying MWC teams don't get Saturday home games in September or October? Find that hard to believe.
CUSA has a media deal that exchanges $800k payout for Tuesday, Wednesday games on CBSSN. It's horrible.

I'd take our current media deal over what CUSA has. We'd be making less to play on days nobody watches or attends.

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Originally Posted by BigHorns

Are you saying MWC teams don't get Saturday home games in September or October? Find that hard to believe.
CUSA has a media deal that exchanges $800k payout for Tuesday, Wednesday games on CBSSN. It's horrible.

I'd take our current media deal over what CUSA has. We'd be making less to play on days nobody watches or attends.

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CUSA media deal is awful. AAC and MW are much better

Any weekday games will be a wreck for NDSU regardless of conference.

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Originally Posted by BigHorns

Are you saying MWC teams don't get Saturday home games in September or October? Find that hard to believe.
CUSA has a media deal that exchanges $800k payout for Tuesday, Wednesday games on CBSSN. It's horrible.

I'd take our current media deal over what CUSA has. We'd be making less to play on days nobody watches or attends.

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Yes MW schools get home games in all the months of the season..4 home conference game..2 or 3 home ooc.

November is the last part of the conference season so it is usually 2 at home 2 on the road..Just like every other conference.

Nevada has this for the ooc

At USC

Idaho State

At Texas State

Kansas

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Originally Posted by BigHorns

Playing at Houston is like us playing at the Gophers stadium and calling that a home game.

I enjoy attending Saturday home games.
SHSU has only 2 of those. In November. Against crappy CUSA teams.

Sorry, but MVFC home schedule is much better than this.

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Yeah that’s why I called the Houston game a road game. And it’s not like going to Minneapolis, it’s comparable to the drive to Fergus Falls. Many people who live in Huntsville work in Houston.

This year’s home MVFC schedule is trash. I completely agree with you on the non-Saturday football games though. So dumb.

I don’t like CUSA, I don’t even know if I necessarily want us going there. Any other conference I’m a yes in a heartbeat.

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Originally Posted by 23Bison

First 3 games alone would be worth it for me.
https://twitter.com/bearkatsfb/statu...5m2Dxpn_YYQqJg

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that would be insane

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Originally Posted by HerdBot

CUSA media deal is awful. AAC and MW are much better

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The MVFC media deal is zilch. NDSU’s media deal is based on the past, not the future. SDSU, UND, USD, UNI none of them have anywhere close to the deals that NDSU have. What will the next NDSU media deal look like if interest continues to wane? It is bizarre to me how so many act like we’re already in the MWC and considering a move to CUSA. The MVFC has essentially one positive and that’s the other Dakota schools and UNI

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Originally Posted by BigLakeBison

The MVFC media deal is zilch. NDSU’s media deal is based on the past, not the future. SDSU, UND, USD, UNI none of them have anywhere close to the deals that NDSU have. What will the next NDSU media deal look like if interest continues to wane? It is bizarre to me how so many act like we’re already in the MWC and considering a move to CUSA. The MVFC has essentially one positive and that’s the other Dakota schools and UNI

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The amount this board overrates the MVFC is really insane, especially with Murray State further driving down the quality of the league. Just look at our home schedule this year, features aboslutely nothing that is compelling. The Valley is basically like the bloated Big Sky now.

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Originally Posted by NDSU92

Yeah that’s why I called the Houston game a road game. And it’s not like going to Minneapolis, it’s comparable to the drive to Fergus Falls. Many people who live in Huntsville work in Houston.

This year’s home MVFC schedule is trash. I completely agree with you on the non-Saturday football games though. So dumb.

I don’t like CUSA, I don’t even know if I necessarily want us going there. Any other conference I’m a yes in a heartbeat.

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Problem is there isn't a major FBS stadium in Fergus Falls, so Minneapolis would be our equivalent.

SHSU is getting 4 true home FBS games next year, since Kennesaw will still be FCS. None of those home games are exciting.
That home schedule is horrible for fans, only two Saturday games to attend, one of those at thanksgiving.

I would bet SHSU actual attendance declines next year.

I generally agree a move to the AAC or MWC would be great. SBC would be good. MAC would be acceptable to me.
CUSA however is a total turd sandwich, and worse than what we have today.

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Originally Posted by NDSUstudent

The amount this board overrates the MVFC is really insane, especially with Murray State further driving down the quality of the league. Just look at our home schedule this year, features aboslutely nothing that is compelling. The Valley is basically like the bloated Big Sky now.

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I actually think it's a great OOC schedule for being FCS. 2 home games against worthy opponents (Maine and Central Ark) and a home/destination game in Minneapolis against EWU. I think each of those games is interesting, plus to get essentially all 3 OOC games at home is pretty remarkable.

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Originally Posted by DePereBisonFan

I actually think it's a great OOC schedule for being FCS. 2 home games against worthy opponents (Maine and Central Ark) and a home/destination game in Minneapolis against EWU. I think each of those games is interesting, plus to get essentially all 3 OOC games at home is pretty remarkable.

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All three teams didn’t make the playoffs last year, wouldn’t win a third of their conference games if they were in the MVFC.

And yeah, honestly for FCS it’s not that bad of a schedule. The problem is that it’s FCS

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Originally Posted by BigLakeBison

The MVFC media deal is zilch. NDSU’s media deal is based on the past, not the future. SDSU, UND, USD, UNI none of them have anywhere close to the deals that NDSU have. What will the next NDSU media deal look like if interest continues to wane? It is bizarre to me how so many act like we’re already in the MWC and considering a move to CUSA. The MVFC has essentially one positive and that’s the other Dakota schools and UNI

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Is interest from a media perspective continuing to wane? What is NDSU'S TV ratings for the year?

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Originally Posted by JMB

Is interest from a media perspective continuing to wane? What is NDSU'S TV ratings for the year?

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I would think that as game attendance goes down, TV viewing would go up, but curious if that is the case…

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Originally Posted by heffray

I would think that as game attendance goes down, TV viewing would go up, but curious if that is the case…

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On izzo podcast he stated tv ratings are good and interactions on websites are high

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Originally Posted by scbison91

On izzo podcast he stated tv ratings are good and interactions on websites are high

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Makes sense.

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Originally Posted by scbison91

On izzo podcast he stated tv ratings are good and interactions on websites are high

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ratings numbers are down but not significant. maybe tomorrow I can look for data

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Originally Posted by scbison91

On izzo podcast he stated tv ratings are good and interactions on websites are high

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To me, the ratings are what would drive the media contract. It may even suggest that interest in the program isn't actually falling...