crooked refs

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by tjbison

Did you call into Heitkamp today?? Some guy said the same thing on there:confused:

---

I've never called into his show before. Although that same statement has been repeated by 3 other posters...

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by ming01

this play didnt lose us the game. not giving the ball to sigers on that 3rd and 2 lost us the game. instead we did a jensen roll out that never worked in the game. sigers had wide open space, plus with our FB right in front of him. we were starting to establish dominance in the running game. i just dont understand why we went away from our bread and butter.

---

I watched the replay, and OMG, you are exactly right. Sigers scores on 3rd and 2 if we give him the ball. That is the missed call of the game. Watch that play again, it's enough to make a grown man cry. We win if Sigers gets the ball on that play. Ugh!

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by BisonCountry

Here is something else I questioned during the game...Final drive of EWU....EWU 2 and 10 from 19. PI on NDSU #13. Refs spotted the ball at the 4 yard line. Is this not a case where it should also been half the distance to the goal?

---

The one exception to the half the distance penalty is defensive pass interference. If the foul is within 15 yards of the LOS, it is a spot enforcement. If the foul is beyond 15 yards, it's always enforced 15 yards, even if it's more than half the distance. The ball can not be spotted inside the 2 after a DPI though so if they had been at the 15 and the foul occurred in the end zone, it would be placed at the 2 after enforcement. The exception to this is on a try. Then DPI is half the distance to the goal.

In this play, the previous spot was the 19 and the foul occurred more than 15 yards from the previous spot so it had a 15-yard enforcement. First and goal at the 4.

See why officials sometimes have to huddle for penalty enforcement? They have exceptions to exceptions.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by IndyBison

I don't see anything there that should have been a foul on #63. The only possible legitimate thing would be if he did something before he got up and the umpire was just slow in getting his flag out. If that were the case he still should have seen what the EWU player did and flagged him as well to offset the penalties. Unless there is something there that didn't show up at all on film, this was a missed call.

BTW...others saying the foul should have been on EWU and resulted in a 1st and goal at the 1 are incorrect. This would have been penalized half the distance and the Bison would have had the ball at the 8, 1st and goal.

---

I looked at the play again and have another theory. That is a pretty quick move by #10 for EWU and the umpire may have been too close to see it. He may have thought #63 initiated all that contact to land on #10. Doesn't make it right but it may explain how he got it wrong. Definitely a bad call unless there is something there we just can't see on video.

let it go, we lost.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by 4mcrue

let it go, we lost.

---

I just started therapy.

I've got several twelve packs to go.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by ming01

it was tough to tell from the replay but it did look like richard put his knee into the back of the defender and then tripped over him.

---

i take this back. #10 grabbed Richard and pulled him down. The flag should have been on EWU. Jesus Christ :banghead:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsG4Q...watch_response

O M F G . WHAT A JOKE>

that sissy #10 got his ass beat, so he grabs Richards Leg and drags him down. WOW

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by IndyBison

I looked at the play again and have another theory. That is a pretty quick move by #10 for EWU and the umpire may have been too close to see it. He may have thought #63 initiated all that contact to land on #10. Doesn't make it right but it may explain how he got it wrong. Definitely a bad call unless there is something there we just can't see on video.

---

All I saw watching the play was Richards go flat on his face and then the flag came out and I thought "Sweet 1st down inside the 10" (although I have seen some mistaken posts that state we were up by 7 if you watch the replay we are tied at 24) but I should have seen the pattern developing earlier in the game.....

http://www.bisonville.com/forum/show...7&postcount=27

click on that VIDEO of #10 pulling down #63 richards.. what a joke!!