A new and better FBS thread

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Originally Posted by daddy daycare

I mean Billy Madison hooked up with Veronica Vaughan so technically I suppose. "We" can believe all you want. There's a million things that need to work to perfection for that to happen and that starts with the right conference (and conferences aren't even done shifting yet), the right OOC schedule, the right recruiting (which is gonna be harder than everyone thinks) an a shitload of other events. Status quo ain't getting that done.

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so wait

it's 2026 NDSU is in Mountain West.
If the Mountain West is the highest ranked G5 conference and we win the MWC Campionship Game we are IN THE 12.

that's NOT that hard to do.

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Originally Posted by daddy daycare

I mean Billy Madison hooked up with Veronica Vaughan so technically I suppose. "We" can believe all you want. There's a million things that need to work to perfection for that to happen and that starts with the right conference (and conferences aren't even done shifting yet), the right OOC schedule, the right recruiting (which is gonna be harder than everyone thinks) an a shitload of other events. Status quo ain't getting that done.

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Well obviously status quo isn’t going to cut it or we’d just stay FCS. I believe recruiting will improve quite a bit which would ultimately help us go undefeated against G5. Quality P5/G5 OOC games is the key. And this year there are quite a few losses amongst the top schools. Only need to be top G5 school/conference champ (easy I know).

Who in their right mind thought that NDSU would win 9 going on 10 National Titles in the FCS in what 18 years. Been eligible for what 14? Shit happens and I believe NDSU could find a way.

After reading another thread I've come to teh conclusion that we need to coop with sdsu eh.

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Originally Posted by scottietohottie

After reading another thread I've come to teh conclusion that we need to coop with sdsu eh.

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Negative, we don’t have room for clip boards and vests on our sideline.

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Originally Posted by 23Bison

Well obviously status quo isn’t going to cut it or we’d just stay FCS. I believe recruiting will improve quite a bit which would ultimately help us go undefeated against G5. Quality P5/G5 OOC games is the key. And this year there are quite a few losses amongst the top schools. Only need to be top G5 school/conference champ (easy I know).

Who in their right mind thought that NDSU would win 9 going on 10 National Titles in the FCS in what 18 years. Been eligible for what 14? Shit happens and I believe NDSU could find a way.

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Recruiting will improve and undefeated. Delusional. Chapo Badge secured. Congrats.

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Originally Posted by El_Chapo

so wait

it's 2026 NDSU is in Mountain West.
If the Mountain West is the highest ranked G5 conference and we win the MWC Campionship Game we are IN THE 12.

that's NOT that hard to do.

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All your points are… if if if…

But congrats you made the 12 you’re gonna get embarrassed in the playoffs. Way to go. Pretty sure you though NDSU hoops beatin Oklahoma would vault them into relevance too. How’d that work.

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Originally Posted by daddy daycare

Recruiting will improve and undefeated. Delusional. Chapo Badge secured. Congrats.

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Ok got it. We move up to FBS and our recruiting doesn’t improve? Very unlikely. Going undefeated in the regular season including OOC has never been done before by a G5 school even though my first post saying we could go undefeated against G5. Interesting

Daycare you are right. In all of the years of FBS ball there has never been an undefeated G5 team going through conference play. Also there has never been a G5 team go undefeated including OOC. I also remember not too long ago a team finishing the entire season undefeated. Maybe I’m wrong. You are 100 percent right though. Our recruiting will stay the same as it is now at the FCS level and we will never ever ever possibly win a conference without a loss. After all, it’s never been done before.

Star Tribune article questions NDSU in FCS & ends with us on the mountain west

AHEM!!! it's a good article sans the idiot mcfooly quote https://m.startribune.com/entire-foo...=n&clmob=y&c=n

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Originally Posted by daddy daycare

I mean Billy Madison hooked up with Veronica Vaughan so technically I suppose. "We" can believe all you want. There's a million things that need to work to perfection for that to happen and that starts with the right conference (and conferences aren't even done shifting yet), the right OOC schedule, the right recruiting (which is gonna be harder than everyone thinks) an a shitload of other events. Status quo ain't getting that done.

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Come on, Jim Carrey ended up < ahem > "with" Lauren Holly after this scene. So, as they say, ...

Y'all remember sweet innocent Lauren Holly from "Picket Fences". Tranny still has the GameBoy. ;)

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Originally Posted by The_Sicatoka

Come on, Jim Carrey ended up < ahem > "with" Lauren Holly after this scene. So, as they say, ...

Y'all remember sweet innocent Lauren Holly from "Picket Fences". Tranny still has the GameBoy. ;)

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Worked out for Joe Dirt too eh. All we need is a fbs conference with its nuts frozen to the porch eh.

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Originally Posted by El_Chapo

so wait

it's 2026 NDSU is in Mountain West.
If the Mountain West is the highest ranked G5 conference and we win the MWC Campionship Game we are IN THE 12.

that's NOT that hard to do.

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It would be very hard. But so is winning 9 of 11 national titles in FCS. The Bison are definitely capable of doing it, and it wouldn't surprise me if they did quickly. I'm a huge fan of moving up for a variety of reasons, but I also expect there could be 8-4 type seasons that are successful but wouldn't lead to any playoff. And for forbid they have a 5-7 season. If you think the Bison are EASILY going to become the #12 team most season, you are unrealistic. The FBS move will now greatly impact regular season schedules. The post-season will be less exciting most seasons and that's ok.

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I tossed USAFA and UH-Manoa because they are unique.
I grabbed the highest (it's or SDSU/UNLV depending on year), low (SJSU), and median MWC athletic and football spending.
I added in NDSU.

https://knightnewhousedata.org/reports/f37d84ae

Aaannndd …. It’s Bowl Season folks
Levy and Galloway looking very comfortable down in Bahama Land

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Originally Posted by The_Sicatoka

I tossed USAFA and UH-Manoa because they are unique.
I grabbed the highest (it's or SDSU/UNLV depending on year), low (SJSU), and median MWC athletic and football spending.
I added in NDSU.

https://knightnewhousedata.org/reports/f37d84ae

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Is the expectation that an FCS school should have a larger athletics budget than the median of one of the top G5 conferences? Before even joining? Hmm

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Originally Posted by NDSU92

Is the expectation that an FCS school should have a larger athletics budget than the median of one of the top G5 conferences? Before even joining? Hmm

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Nope. Just looking at the comparison and what the funding jump would need be.

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Originally Posted by The_Sicatoka

Nope. Just looking at the comparison and what the funding jump would need be.

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Lol @ use of the word "need"... We've been over this a half dozen times already I feel like.

NDSU would have to up its athletics spending for sure. How much exactly? Who knows, surely not you or me. Comparison to existing schools that have been in the Mountain West for 10+ years and have been FBS for 5x that is certainly a data point. So is the difference in cost of living between Fargo and Fresno, San Diego, Denver, etc. Another is how competitive NDSU is already given the fact that our athletic department spends less money.

California Davis spent 14 million more dollars on their athletic department in 2021 than NDSU. Should we jump to the conclusion that NDSU couldn't compete in the Big Sky now too?

Data needs context homie

UAB looks decent. Sagarin has them at 87, three spots below UIW
Heading to the AAC, lucky blazers ...

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Originally Posted by NDSU92

Data needs context homie

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Undoubtedly.
That's why I pulled USAFA and UH-Manoa out of consideration.
But mentioning context, there's also this, and this other.

Whoa. Couple huge bowl games today, let’s f’ing go!

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Originally Posted by The_Sicatoka

Undoubtedly.
That's why I pulled USAFA and UH-Manoa out of consideration.
But mentioning context, there's also this.

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I guess the ironic good news for the football program is that they aren't getting much money from the university in the first place

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Originally Posted by 23Bison

Daycare you are right. In all of the years of FBS ball there has never been an undefeated G5 team going through conference play. Also there has never been a G5 team go undefeated including OOC. I also remember not too long ago a team finishing the entire season undefeated. Maybe I’m wrong. You are 100 percent right though. Our recruiting will stay the same as it is now at the FCS level and we will never ever ever possibly win a conference without a loss. After all, it’s never been done before.

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The assumption around here of course is that everyone else's recruiting remains stagnant.

Enjoy the bowl games, I can sense the excitment.

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Originally Posted by daddy daycare

The assumption around here of course is that everyone else's recruiting remains stagnant.

Enjoy the bowl games, I can sense the excitment.

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Sounds like you are very hopeful about your fighting hawks picking up the "recruiting slack" that will surely ensue when NDSU goes FBS. I think it'll be much harder than you think, but 17 > 1 so it would appear you have some work to do. I don't think NDSU leaving would make it any easier, fwiw ;)

I like bowl games because I like FBS College Football, but I can tell you’re a big fan of NCC FB so you wouldn’t understand … and that’s okay

Gave me a good chuckle there. Ya you know me. Nearly 20 year football season ticket holder for NDSU and a huge gopher hockey fan. You got me nailed there with that Fighting Hawks label.

Touched a nerve I guess. Keep ‘em coming reps.

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Originally Posted by daddy daycare

Gave me a good chuckle there. Ya you know me. Nearly 20 year football season ticket holder for NDSU and a huge gopher hockey fan. You got me nailed there with that Fighting Hawks label.

Touched a nerve I guess. Keep ‘em coming reps.

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I'm just telling you sound, bro
and I think your full of shit btw

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Originally Posted by WhoRepsTheLurker

I'm just telling you sound, bro
and I think your full of shit btw

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How so I’m dying to hear this

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Originally Posted by daddy daycare

How so I’m dying to hear this

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I mean if you look at your profile like 95% of your posts are in this thread bagging on FBS and the other 5% are other threads talking about the same thing here.

So you’ll probably forgive him for assuming

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Originally Posted by NDSU92

I mean if you look at your profile like 95% of your posts are in this thread bagging on FBS and the other 5% are other threads talking about the same thing here.

So you’ll probably forgive him for assuming

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My apologies for not caring I’m too invested in this Bahamas bowl like the 13 fans that are there. 2 epic 6-6 squads going toe to toe.

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Originally Posted by daddy daycare

How so I’m dying to hear this

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Not only are you singly focused on this particular thread/topic, you come on here – a NDSU Bison fan site - with nothing but negativity, railing on P5, G5, FCS, NDSU, pretty much everything in general (except D2), while "your" team is on a historic run in CFB with an incredible amount to be positive and excited about

So yeah, in my view there’s no way you’re a real NDSU fan. What you are, near as I can guess, is some kind of "fandrogenous" "regional sports fan", ala Ed Schultz ;)

No matter. You be you and I’ll be me, K? Just expect to get called out every once and a while for the constant BS

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Originally Posted by WhoRepsTheLurker

Not only are you singly focused on this particular thread/topic, you come on here – a NDSU Bison fan site - with nothing but negativity, railing on P5, G5, FCS, NDSU, pretty much everything in general (except D2), while "your" team is on a historic run in CFB with an incredible amount to be positive and excited about

So yeah, in my view there’s no way you’re a real NDSU fan. What you are, near as I can guess, is some kind of "fandrogenous" "regional sports fan", ala Ed Schultz ;)

No matter. You be you and I’ll be me, K? Just expect to get called out every once and a while for the constant BS

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The latter is exactly what Im doing.

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Originally Posted by daddy daycare

The assumption around here of course is that everyone else's recruiting remains stagnant.

Enjoy the bowl games, I can sense the excitment.

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Bowl games are for the players..Most of them are in warm weather spots and the bowl hosts make it a very nice experience. I know you find them meaningless but players don't..

Bahamas bowl has a lazy river eh

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Originally Posted by MWC

Bowl games are for the players..Most of them are in warm weather spots and the bowl hosts make it a very nice experience. I know you find them meaningless but players don't..

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Thought the same thing about the senior citizens I saw playing pickle ball at the YMCA.

TD Miami! Huge MAC fan. That's where NDSU belongs.

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Originally Posted by daddy daycare

Thought the same thing about the senior citizens I saw playing pickle ball at the YMCA.

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You always have a kind word for everybody..

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Originally Posted by MWC

You always have a kind word for everybody..

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Thanks. I appreciate that. Your positivity is inspiring.

This bowl game is insanity.

Insanity? Damn, you are a bitter dude..

Dammit. 2 yards short for our future conference the MAC.

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Originally Posted by MWC

Insanity? Damn, you are a bitter dude..

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Always....always...judge a person based on the internet. Great plan.

For example, I know chapo personally. Great dude. Much to 99% of the internets dismay.

Boy those UAB players sure look indifferent about winning the game. No sign of emotion or joy at all. At the same time those Miami of Ohio players sure look like they don’t want to be there after losing a close game. I mean zero disappointment on their sideline. The game is just nothing you guys since the teams didn’t want to be involved.