FBS move fans. Here's a good read

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Originally Posted by bdg64

Well have a women's sports added or men's sports cut so they match. That was part of the reason why UNO cut their football team when they moved up to D-1, easier to get rid of the team than trying to add the scholarships or teams in women's sports.

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NEVER EVER EVER EVER happen at NDSU. Period.

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Originally Posted by NorthernBison

NEVER EVER EVER EVER happen at NDSU. Period.

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Not saying it will, just saying those are the two options.

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Originally Posted by bdg64

Not saying it will, just saying those are the two options.

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I get that. Just cross off the idea of cutting a men's sport or two. NDSU will not be considering that.

Keep in mind when you use the word "match", it's not about the number of sports or even the number of scholarships. It's about resources devoted to programs ($$$$$$$$$). Some people mistakenly believe that only football is different with a move to FBS. Nothing could be further from the truth. Take the MWC for example. I'm quite sure that their coaching staffs for every sport are paid higher than what we are currently paying. Men's sports probably have the large dollar gaps (I'm guessing there).

If every program needs more money to compete and the gaps are greater for men's sports, the Title IX affect is rather drastic.

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Originally Posted by tjamz

Alright, I gotta chime in on this as well. I'm 100% for a move to FBS if/when FBS becomes the 2nd tier of CFB AND plays a tournament for a championship. Then and only then do I think that NDSU will get enough local support to warrant a move up.

Right now it's just not in the books for us to move, even if we did have a conference that wanted us. The best "fit" for similar sized universities would be MWC of course, best fit geographically would be Big 10 or Big 12. I really don't see any of these conferences knocking on our doors asking us to join the party.

Having said that, I'd love to see NDSU start building towards the future, and that starts with donations/contributions from not only existing TeamMakers but also from those of us (self included... looking at what I need to donate yet this year for tax purposes and ALL donations for rest of year will go directly to TM) that haven't been TM's in the past. I honestly think that TM needs to improve their marketing and not just go after the white elephants, because let's be honest, there are only so many Jim Engstad's and Sanford Health's in the FM area and you can only squeeze so much juice out of them. However, I believe that there are MANY individuals who don't think they can qualify to be TeamMakers because they don't have thousands to give.... well, $100 gets you in. And it's tax deductible. I'm fairly certain that a LOT of fans and local businesses would participate if they knew more about the process and benefits.

After that I think we need to start looking outside of Fargo for donors. However, NDSU does have a bit of a bad rap with many western ND folks due to the president's house ordeal, etc.... all they hear is the negatives about NDSU. A media campaign in western ND would go a long long way towards securing donors out that way. (not just talking oil fields either, talking about farmers, ranchers, business owners, etc...)

For the TL/DR crowd: For a move when BCS breaks off and FBS starts tournament. Need to start raising money now. Have ideas.

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Well said. The only part I disagree on is the Mountain West being the only conference. Obviously like you said the Big Ten or 12 won't have us. Since we're literally the center of the country we can go either way. (**twss**) Personally I think the MAC makes sense from a geographic standpoint. It's more of a midwest footprint and we already play teams in Illinois, Indiana, and Ohio. We're talking snow climates too. Something about California, Nevada, and New Mexico that seems way out of place. Reminds me too much of UN_ and the Big Sky.

Other sports the MVC is the no brainer. I'm starting to wonder if the Horizon is that much better than the Summit now we have ORU. Same number of teams and if UN_ would return we would be very stable. Then again if anyone steals a Horizon team, the first place they will likely look is the Summit. Given all the major issues with stability I think the MAC makes the most sense with 12 teams

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Originally Posted by roadwarrior

I am pretty certain that all of our current women's sports already have the NCAA limit of scholarships funded. So to balance 22 more in football would require additional women's sports to be added.

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And baseball is still not fully funded, correct?

I heard on the radio the gophers sold 3400 tickets to their bowl game.

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Originally Posted by BisonTeacher

I heard on the radio the gophers sold 3400 tickets to their bowl game.

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Their fan base sucks. Lived down their for 5 years, went to half a dozen games and never met more than a handful of die hard goopher fans. They seem content with being mediocre.

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How well are the men's track teams funded?

IIRC, both the track teams and cross country need to be funded to at least 80% of the max allowed or they don't count as separate sports. If they aren't counted as separate sports, NDSU would not be at the 16 required sports for FBS.

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I have largely stayed out of this FBS discussion. But after watching Fresno State, co-MWC champion, play in the Las Vegas Bowl and get pounded by USC, and now watching a shitty Poinsettia Bowl with Northern Illinois and the other MWC co-champion Utah State play lousy football in a lousy bowl I keep asking myself "why?". Of course, the spectacular Poinstettia Bowl followed the Little Ceasars Bowl with the MAC champion Bowling Green losing to an utterly and ridicuously bad Pitt. There was a sparse crowd in the Ceasars Bowl and an even smaller crowd in the Poinsettia Bowl, so obviously FBS fans are not flocking to these games.

So, tell me in all honesty what the attraction is for you all FBS proponents in having the Bison play in these shitty conferences with the sole goal of playing in these even shittier bowls. I'm serious. Tell me what attacts you to having the Bison play in conferences such as these. I truly want to know, because the whole logic and rationale thought process as to why this is where NDSU needs to be in the whole scheme of college football is escaping me. I don't understand you, so explain it to me.

Thanks.

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Originally Posted by MNLonghorn10

he is. Lakes is one of the better ambassadors for NDSU that isnt employed by the actual college. He sees things clearly more than a lot of people and can project moves before any of us. a move to FBS would only be beneficial for NDSU. GT has to be making phone calls. FCS is just embarrassing when you look at the interest in other schools. NDSU needs to sell high

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Stay at the level they are at. Death sentence moving up in my opinion.