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Re: 2010 Recruiting
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Originally Posted by
SDbison
I feel sorry for the kid because he chose to go to UND. :smh:
Sorry but I have to respond here. Maybe he wanted to go to NDSU but chose UND for the full ride because he couldnt afford college. Maybe they were the highest level school to offer. There are a lot of variables.
I know you hate UND and so do I. So please don't take this as an attack on you. I feel sorry he has to go to that s**thole too.
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Re: 2010 Recruiting
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Originally Posted by
Grizzled
My bad. Just sounded like you where taking more of a shot at the player than the school. Carry on if you where making fun of UND:D
Haha, yeah completely a shot at UND, but I did see it was possible that it could be taken as a shot at Miller. I didn't want to dumb down the original post so it would lose its offensiveness haha.
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Re: 2010 Recruiting
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Originally Posted by
rutlandbison
Sorry but I have to respond here. Maybe he wanted to go to NDSU but chose UND for the full ride because he couldnt afford college. Maybe they were the highest level school to offer. There are a lot of variables.
I know you hate UND and so do I. So please don't take this as an attack on you. I feel sorry he has to go to that s**thole too.
I know what you are saying.......and I agree sometimes you have to go where the $$$$ are. Who knows, with the bad fortune the Bison seem to have lately, UND might end up being the better choice for on the field success. I can't believe I just posted that.......:confused: I just don't have much confidence in the Bison football program after the past 2 years. 3 losses in a row to the bunnies. WTF?
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Re: 2010 Recruiting
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Originally Posted by
SDbison
I know what you are saying.......and I agree sometimes you have to go where the $$$$ are. Who knows, with the bad fortune the Bison seem to have lately, UND might end up being the better choice for on the field success. I can't believe I just posted that.......:confused: I just don't have much confidence in the Bison football program after the past 2 years. 3 losses in a row to the bunnies. WTF?
SD we care about you here man ...... please step away from the bottle and go take a nap. Life is not that bad that you have to fall back to posting items like that. I swear your head will clear just give it a second and you will be fine again.:D :D :D :D :D
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Re: 2010 Recruiting
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Originally Posted by
SDbison
I know what you are saying.......and I agree sometimes you have to go where the $$$$ are. Who knows, with the bad fortune the Bison seem to have lately, UND might end up being the better choice for on the field success. I can't believe I just posted that.......:confused: I just don't have much confidence in the Bison football program after the past 2 years. 3 losses in a row to the bunnies. WTF?
I get where you are coming from man. We need a good year coming up.
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Re: 2010 Recruiting
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Originally Posted by
rutlandbison
Sorry but I have to respond here. Maybe he wanted to go to NDSU but chose UND for the full ride because he couldnt afford college. Maybe they were the highest level school to offer. There are a lot of variables.
I know you hate UND and so do I. So please don't take this as an attack on you. I feel sorry he has to go to that s**thole too.
UND offered him a 1/2 scholarship.
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Re: 2010: Recruiting Summary
Looks like SDSU got their first verbal. You can cross QB Austin Sumner off your list as he's signed on with the Jacks. It's going to fun watching Sumner vs Thorton in the coming years.
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Re: 2010: Recruiting Summary
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Originally Posted by
DjKyRo
Man, it'd sure be nice to have a guy to go with Gebhart for the 1-2 punch like Heck and Belquist.
Heh, I liked both Belquist brothers at WR but I think a better combo was Heck and Travis White (and, yeah, it would be really nice to have two stud WRs on the field at the same time - heck, I wouldn't say no to three if we can manage it.)
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Re: 2010: Recruiting Summary
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Originally Posted by
tony
Heh, I liked both Belquist brothers at WR but I think a better combo was Heck and Travis White.
I'm hoping Cooper Wahlo is the stud he sounds to be
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Re: 2010 Recruiting
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Originally Posted by
SiouxFan
UND offered him a 1/2 scholarship.
with a new stadium that holds 35-40k in the near future with a retractable roof right?
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Re: 2010: Recruiting Summary
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Originally Posted by
JacksFan06
Looks like SDSU got their first verbal. You can cross QB Austin Sumner off your list as he's signed on with the Jacks. It's going to fun watching Sumner vs Thorton in the coming years.
we never offered him
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Re: 2010 Recruiting
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Originally Posted by
NDSUFan_Sav
with a new stadium that holds 35-40k in the near future with a retractable roof right?
Don't forget the world-class architecture and engineering programs! ;)
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Re: 2010: Recruiting Summary
The Jack fans were very quick to rub it in our face how much depth they had at QB. Well, they are losing Whittier, a transfer that came from Air Force that was a 2 star, and Mondol, who I think came from Michigan. That is alot of depth to lose. I know they added Sumner, who looks like a terrific player. I still cannot understand why a kid with that size, arm strength, the huge high school stats and then getting named Gatorade Player of the year can only have one offer. But, the kid is good and they do a nice job with developing talent. It is funny how we had no QB's and then they were down to bare bones. I think after those two quit, they have their starter (who was a freshman) and a walk on QB. Now adding Sumner. My guess is they will add a Juco. They probably had too much depth. Kids want to play.
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Re: 2010: Recruiting Summary
Saw Vraa at metrodome for the Vikings halftime Minn HS achievements, kid got player of the year of course. Saw a couple of the other NDSU recruits. lots of talent not signed yet!
Beau Allen is a beast and Sentrel henderson was almost as big as mckinnie, DAYUM!!
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Re: 2010: Recruiting Summary
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Originally Posted by
bisonhusker
The Jack fans were very quick to rub it in our face how much depth they had at QB. Well, they are losing Whittier, a transfer that came from Air Force that was a 2 star, and Mondol, who I think came from Michigan. That is alot of depth to lose. I know they added Sumner, who looks like a terrific player. I still cannot understand why a kid with that size, arm strength, the huge high school stats and then getting named Gatorade Player of the year can only have one offer. But, the kid is good and they do a nice job with developing talent. It is funny how we had no QB's and then they were down to bare bones. I think after those two quit, they have their starter (who was a freshman) and a walk on QB. Now adding Sumner. My guess is they will add a Juco. They probably had too much depth. Kids want to play.
What, I thought kids went to SDSU because they like to hunt and fish, what in the heck does playing have to do with that? How could these guys transfer out, I thought Coach Stig did such a good job in checking out players, this can't be right.:D
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Re: 2010: Recruiting Summary
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Originally Posted by
bisonhusker
The Jack fans were very quick to rub it in our face how much depth they had at QB.
I'm pretty sure that 90% of the comments on NDSU's lack of depth at QB and SDSU's surplus came from our own fans. :)
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Re: 2010: Recruiting Summary
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Originally Posted by
bisonhusker
The Jack fans were very quick to rub it in our face how much depth they had at QB. Well, they are losing Whittier, a transfer that came from Air Force that was a 2 star, and Mondol, who I think came from Michigan. That is alot of depth to lose. I know they added Sumner, who looks like a terrific player. I still cannot understand why a kid with that size, arm strength, the huge high school stats and then getting named Gatorade Player of the year can only have one offer. But, the kid is good and they do a nice job with developing talent. It is funny how we had no QB's and then they were down to bare bones. I think after those two quit, they have their starter (who was a freshman) and a walk on QB. Now adding Sumner. My guess is they will add a Juco. They probably had too much depth. Kids want to play.
To answer the question, Sumner had minor shoulder surgery following his junior year early in the summer. He didn't throw at the camps he went to, therefore, his lack of offers. Just what I understand from the stuff I have read. Wisconsin and Iowa State offered walk-on positions according to the same news sources, but that was it.
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Re: 2010: Recruiting Summary
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Originally Posted by
JacksFan06
Looks like SDSU got their first verbal. You can cross QB Austin Sumner off your list as he's signed on with the Jacks. It's going to fun watching Sumner vs Thorton in the coming years.
He hasen't signed with anyone yet...he gave a verbal...huge, huge difference there...
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Re: 2010: Recruiting Summary
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Originally Posted by
BisonNolesFan77
He hasen't signed with anyone yet...he gave a verbal...huge, huge difference there...
or if he did sign something that sounds ILLEGAL!!!!!
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Re: 2010: Recruiting Summary
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Originally Posted by
tjbison
or if he did sign something that sounds ILLEGAL!!!!!
Take it easy! The only thing he signed was the lease to a 2010 Corvette that we got him... :bow:
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Re: 2010: Recruiting Summary
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Originally Posted by
Kemo
Take it easy! The only thing he signed was the lease to a 2010 Corvette that we got him... :bow:
You guys only lease? Didn't realize Stig was to stingy on recruiting incentives. ;)
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Re: 2010: Recruiting Summary
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Originally Posted by
DjKyRo
You guys only lease? Didn't realize Stig was to stingy on recruiting incentives. ;)
Could have atleast given him the job to pay for it himself...I hear that works for QBs.
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Re: 2010: Recruiting Summary
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Originally Posted by
DjKyRo
You guys only lease? Didn't realize Stig was to stingy on recruiting incentives. ;)
Well, we do have the lowest football budget in the MVC :smh:
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Re: 2010 Recruiting
QB Jordan Rodgers hopes to make a decision in the next week or so. He plans on enrolling for the spring at whatever school he decides on. He has offers from Kansas, Western Kentucky, NDSU, several other FCS schools. He also has taken official visits to Washington State and Vanderbilt. He has stated that he wants to play right away and make a difference. Maybe NDSU still has chance with him.
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Re: 2010 Recruiting
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Originally Posted by
baseballfan7
QB Jordan Rodgers hopes to make a decision in the next week or so. He plans on enrolling for the spring at whatever school he decides on. He has offers from Kansas, Western Kentucky, NDSU, several other FCS schools. He also has taken official visits to Washington State and Vanderbilt. He has stated that he wants to play right away and make a difference. Maybe NDSU still has chance with him.
Not according to the question/answer post Hallstrom made on Dec 9:
Q: There are a couple quarterbacks out there who say they have offers from you, true?
A: Not really. We've already got a QB who says he's coming so we're probably good. It's tough to take two in the same class.
(my note here....WDAY has reported that Esley Thorton from Bismarck has verballed, so that must be the guy he's talking about but he can't comment on him until signing day...Some have speculated that Thorton may be moved to safety or OLB, but this comment makes it pretty clear in my mind that they're locked in on him as a QB.)
Later in the same day, Hallstrom posted this:
* Bison are not considering Esley Thorton (Bismarck QB) to play safety or linebacker. He will likely be the only QB taken in this year's class.
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Re: 2010: Recruiting Summary
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Originally Posted by
Kemo
Well, we do have the lowest football budget in the MVC :smh:
If that is true, then Steig is impressively efficient with the dollars he has, unlike someone else I know.
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Re: 2010: Recruiting Summary
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Originally Posted by
BisonNeil
If that is true, then Steig is impressively efficient with the dollars he has, unlike someone else I know.
Maybe Stig was a bit lucky with how some of his recruits turned out too. We will see if Stig continues to do well on a low budget. Still can't believe the wait and see what happens philosophy can work better than being aggressive and pursuing recruits early.
Either Stig can find every under the radar player he needs and then turns them into good individual / great team players (not probable) or he is somewhat lucky and things worked out well for a couple seasons (more likely). I don't think SDSU has been, or is at this moment, such a highly desirable place to go to school and play FCS football that they can wait for recruits to come to them.
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Re: 2010: Recruiting Summary
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Originally Posted by
SDbison
Maybe Stig was a bit lucky with how some of his recruits turned out too. We will see if Stig continues to do well on a low budget. Still can't believe the wait and see what happens philosophy can work better than being aggressive and pursuing recruits early.
Either Stig can find every under the radar player he needs and then turns them into good individual / great team players (not probable) or he is somewhat lucky and things worked out well for a couple seasons (more likely). I don't think SDSU has been, or is at this moment, such a highly desirable place to go to school and play FCS football that they can wait for recruits to come to them.
I don't think your getting it. Coach Stig doesn't have "sit on my thumbs, wait and see" mentality.
He does what most FCS schools do, even what NDSU used to do until this year. They hold summer camps, they put out their feelers in the fall, they get their official visits in the winter, and they get their verbals in December & January. Having 15 verbals before the season is over is a rarity, not typically the standard. There are still plently of good recruits out there, especially for the FCS. This is the time of year that recruits who were waiting for an FBS offer realize it's not coming and start picking out their FCS options.
Has Coach Stig/SDSU got lucky with their recruits? Yes, but that's what recruiting is. It's an evaluated risk and you try to take players that have less risk, but they all have risk.
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Re: 2010: Recruiting Summary
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Originally Posted by
JacksFan06
I don't think your getting it. Coach Stig doesn't have "sit on my thumbs, wait and see" mentality.
He does what most FCS schools do, even what NDSU used to do until this year. They hold summer camps, they put out their feelers in the fall, they get their official visits in the winter, and they get their verbals in December & January. Having 15 verbals before the season is over is a rarity, not typically the standard. There are still plently of good recruits out there, especially for the FCS. This is the time of year that recruits who were waiting for an FBS offer realize it's not coming and start picking out their FCS options.
Has Coach Stig/SDSU got lucky with their recruits? Yes, but that's what recruiting is. It's an evaluated risk and you try to take players that have less risk, but they all have risk.
So while you wait other schools will come knocking if the recruit is that desirable for FCS. Can't tell me all these recruits that turn out well just happen to be unknowns who only SDSU can find.
Granted I believe Stig and staff have done well developing players that play well in their system. But in FCS you have to get good athletes too. That means competition with other schools for a limited number of the better recruits. You are not going to get these guys unless you have some advantage. SDSU's one season blip on the radar does not buy them that much.
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Re: 2010: Recruiting Summary
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Originally Posted by
SDbison
So while you wait other schools will come knocking if the recruit is that desirable for FCS. Can't tell me all these recruits that turn out well just happen to be unknowns who only SDSU can find.
Granted I believe Stig and staff have done well developing players that play well in their system. But in FCS you have to get good athletes too. That means competition with other schools for a limited number of the better recruits. You are not going to get these guys unless you have some advantage. SDSU's one season blip on the radar does not buy them that much.
Not all of SDSU's recruits are "hidden gems" and they do compete with other schools for players.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/huskerlandpr...oehlmoos-75084
Here's a recruit from last year who was offered by Wyoming and recruited by your former D-Coordinator Breske. (Notice he committed 01/22/09, this is a fairly normal time for a recruit to make his decision)
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/footbal...recruit-search
If you choose South Dakota State from this link you will get 19 players that are being recruited by SDSU this year that are also being recruited by other schools.
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Re: 2010 Recruiting
It's hard to say how the question was asked by Steve. They were trading phone messages. Bohl might not count a JC transfer as a "freshman" in the same class as Thorton. He might see them as different "classes". It will be interesting to see how it plays out.
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Re: 2010 Recruiting
If Rodgers wanted to come to NDSU Bohl would be crazy to not take him.
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Re: 2010 Recruiting
From Hallstrom(Bison Media Blog):
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More on Vraa
Traded some emails with Rosemount coach Jeff Erdmann today.
He says Air Force, NDSU, SDSU, and the Gophers are still interested in Zach Vraa, but if he had to bet money, he'd guess Vraa winds up with NDSU. Says he really likes the coaches and had a good visit over the weekend.
Air Force has apparently not offered but are looking at tape.
And it goes without saying that if Minnesota offers, he's a Gopher. My take, not the coach's.
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Re: 2010: Recruiting Summary
NDSU has interest in Wr Julius Shelby 6'4 200 lbs of Proviso West High School in Bellwood, IL.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/footbal...s-Shelby-94591
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Re: 2010: Recruiting Summary
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Originally Posted by
baseballfan7
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OK question . It states that he just finished high school and is a midterm graduate. Could he enroll in college for the spring semester so he could participate in spring ball and still have his full eligibility of 5 playing seasons?
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Re: 2010: Recruiting Summary
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Originally Posted by
Bison"FANatic"
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OK question . It states that he just finished high school and is a midterm graduate. Could he enroll in college for the spring semester so he could participate in spring ball and still have his full eligibility of 5 playing seasons?
Yes. This practice is becoming increasingly common in the major programs.
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Re: 2010: Recruiting Summary
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Originally Posted by
Bison"FANatic"
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OK question . It states that he just finished high school and is a midterm graduate. Could he enroll in college for the spring semester so he could participate in spring ball and still have his full eligibility of 5 playing seasons?
Yes, he can and will still have his full eligibility. This happens a lot especially at the FBS level.
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Re: 2010: Recruiting Summary
Is that what they consider a "grayshirt"?
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Re: 2010: Recruiting Summary
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Originally Posted by
Bison"FANatic"
Is that what they consider a "grayshirt"?
Yes
ten char
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Re: 2010: Recruiting Summary