Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.
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KSBisonFan
It really does. Seems at times the offense asks him to play that way as well to have any success. He also does refuse though to take the easy throw at times as CAS says. Hard to say which it is or a combination of both more likely.
Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.
We always hear how Wentz was great in 2017 and how he needs to get back to playing like that to be a great QB. If he plays well and within the offense he gets criticized for not making huge plays or having a big enough average per pass. In 2017 a lot of the spectacular plays he made were hero ball. I think the current Andy Reid and Doug Pederson offenses rely too much on the QB to play hero ball to make big plays. Patrick Mahomes is going through some of this now in KC. To lose the AFC Championship Game Mahomes ran around forever in the pocket trying to make a big play and instead got sacked for huge losses. The Chiefs had that game if they just score from inside the 10 yard line.
By contrast if you watch the Packers, Rams, Titans, Bills, and 49ers they scheme their receivers wide open quite often.
Reich's offense is a mixture. Some of his routes scheme the receivers open but sometimes the QB has to play hero ball. The Colts offense tanked after the Bucs game when they greatly reduced or eliminated the RPO portion of the offense. The Colts were scoring a bunch of points on everyone in the middle of the season during the hot streak. I don't know if the owner jumped in and joined the fans in telling Reich that the offense should be Run The Damn Ball and Wentz will need to make plays in the passing game when the defense knows that he is passing but the offense changed. The quote was 26 plays in a row without a touch for Jonathan Taylor and it didn't matter that the Colts scored 31 points in that game. Wentz's turnovers all took place inside the red zone so the Bucs drove a long way to score TD's after them and they did. The Colts defense couldn't stop a team unless they forced a turnover most of the time.
I hope he gets a fair shake this season with the Colts or someone else but I'm not counting on it. He is attacked mercilessly and they act like he was the worst QB in the league this year.
Matt Stafford led the league with 17 interceptions during the regular season (4 were pick 6's) and he threw a bunch more in the playoffs including 2 in the Super Bowl. That tells me the Rams team was good enough to overcome Stafford's mistakes. If Stafford threw 17 picks with and was playing for the Colts they would have been a worse team than they were with Wentz.
Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.
Run the damn ball happened because the Colts had 10 point lead in the second half and the the ball on 18 straight plays and Wentz turned it over twice (1 fumble and 1 interception) plus a 3-and-out. Tampa scored after all 3 to take a 7 point lead. On the next drive the Colts finally ran the ball 8 times in 10 plays and scored to tie it.
If they run the ball at least some those first 3 drives they are less likely to turn it over and maybe get a score.
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Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.
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KSBisonFan
Makes sense, but the concussion had just as much to do with it as the knee. His decision making slowed after it, almost like he had a mini-Kev on his shoulder during every play asking him, "You sure, bro?"
Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.
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KSBisonFan
He played some of his best football the year after his knee injury when the eagles were down to practice squad receivers. He was great early this year when he was basically a pocket passer because he had 2 bad ankles and coldnt move. So we're seen him play well when injured.
All good QBs adapt their game and so much is mental. It's the only position in all of sports where you see 40 year old QBs playing at a high level and sometimes improving wirh age. Favre, Brees, Elway, Roger's, Brady, Manning.
Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.
This article mentions Wentz not being vaccinated didn't sit well with the team. Apparently people cant handle personal medical decisions that should be private in the first place.
https://www.nbcsportsedge.com/footba...medium=twitter
Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.
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He fucked around and found out.
Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.
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ndsubison1
If it effects your job and the jobs of other people around you it's not surprising other's will have an opinion.
Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.
And your quarterback is supposed to be a team leader. Like I said before on hardknocks there was an awful lot of masks and social distancing. Lots of players on that team put their own personal beliefs ahead of the team. They got exactly what they deserved. Entire team got their natural immunity in December. It wasn't just Carson but maybe if Carson would have done it some others would have too. Instead they all went the other direction.
Didn't see many masks superbowl week for the Bengals and Rams. Funny how that worked.
Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.
I see many of you just can't give it a rest, even as some of the arguments you made on this forum 4 months ago no longer hold true.
1. Going against your own convictions just to go along with a majority wouldn't be leadership at all.
2. Making a medical decision you don't believe is right for you just to satisfy a business corporation would show a complete lack of personal courage and conviction.
How about we judge Wentz on his current football related attributes?
