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hows otis, feeney, seth doing?Quote:
Originally Posted by BISONBRI53
Listen
#1 Coming off this ARIZONA weekend and the fan turnout, this ADMIN better wake the F up
#2 the G5 WILL HAVE 1 SPOT IN THE COLLEGE FOOTBALL PLAYOFF> 1 of the biggest sporting events ever
Every question from media this week should of been about those 2 things. I watched the post game presser and mondays. not 1 question about it
They are also bigger state schools in more populous areas and fairly close to each other. And they've been at that level for a long time. People on this board make fun of them but they are very good schools with excellent programs. I've paid tuition at 2 of them!Quote:
Originally Posted by B.Schlossman Fan Club
The average enrollment at MAC schools is 16k undergrad and 4500 grad. NDSU is 10k and 2100 respectively. That's a 60-70% difference which is not insignificant. I've been on campus of 3 others.
The only drawbacks to the Dakota schools for the MAC are distance (especially the Ohio schools) and size. All 4 would probably have better local support and more consistent football programs. I think any of them would fit though.
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They've asked plenty. They get the same answer. It's not the media's job to do that.Quote:
Originally Posted by El_Chapo
I'd love for UND and SDSU to jump with NDSU just to watch the holier than thou Bison section of the fan base weep in their beers.
See Indy's post re state populations, enrollment, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by B.Schlossman Fan Club
But yes, the top of the MVFC probably could, but I was referring specifically to the 4 Dakota schools ...
Careful with that hint of Geography talk around these parts. Apparently it's never been a factor in conference alignment.Quote:
Originally Posted by IndyBison
True colors starting to emerge I seeQuote:
Originally Posted by daddy daycare
At this point if/when we go everyone will probably be crying because their certain specific vision for what it would look like didn't come to fruitionQuote:
Originally Posted by daddy daycare
Part of the reason why I'm in #JustMakeItHappen camp
Well screaming for FBS but then saying "no not with______" makes no sense. Speaking of true colors.Quote:
Originally Posted by WhoRepsTheLurker
I've suspected for a while that you aren't a Bison fan. Thanks for revealing yourself.Quote:
Originally Posted by daddy daycare
https://sm2media.com/31214/news/usm-...to-exit-c-usa/
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It was previously reported that the typical Conference USA exit fee was $3 million, but the conference and the universities agreed to settle for a $1.75 million buyout. This was also a penalty for not giving the required 14 months’ notice before leaving. Southern Miss was required to pay the fee within 30 calendar days of receiving the notice, which it appears they have done so.
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Confidentiality was an important aspect of the agreement, as Conference USA made it clear that it did not want the agreement to become public. The Student Media Center and other media organizations requested a copy of the document on or around March 31, but C-USA filed a protective agreement on April 21 to keep the documents confidential.
Wow. Just wow. Have you ever seen a more worthless conference? They allowed a team to not only pay half the contractual exit fee but wasn't able to do anything about them leaving early. Then tried to stop anybody from finding out what they did. This deal apparently applied to the other 2 early leavers too.Quote:
At the initial Sun Belt press conference on October 26, 2021, Southern Miss Athletics Director Jeremy McClain said that Southern Miss would save money on travel costs which could lead to Southern Miss regaining the forfeited money in the coming years.
“It is kind of hard to pin down in numbers, but it could easily be half a million dollars annually for us,” McClain said at the press conference.
Also note the comment about improving geography being a big component. Anyone still think geography doesn't matter?
Yeah my 20 years of season tickets are a fad. Sorry you're one of those fans the other fan bases talk about.Quote:
Originally Posted by NDSU1980
There's plenty in this thread who think it doesn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by taper
This'll make heads here swim.
Listen for yourself (start about the 17 minute mark).
(Personally I think he was talking up a facility and nothing more. Or was he.)
Your AD has his own podcast? Lmao times must be pretty slow up in grand forks. And he's still a goober for not pronouncing his name "Chavez" which would be cool as hellQuote:
Originally Posted by The_Sicatoka
No I'm not listening for 17 minutes to hear how the Alerus could be FBS ready, unless it's related to a possible expansion due to some recently discovered closet space
And no, I'm not going to roll out the 1,000 point list on how SHSU and UND are completely incomparable, goodness
Your AD doesn't? :blush:Quote:
Originally Posted by NDSU92
And you have no SoundCloud account to FFWD to where Chaves (rhymes with Blackhawk captain Toews) says, " ... and quite frankly it's an FBS facility."
No podcast, no (free) SoundCloud account, ... lemme guess, if they made you OC you'd run the veer. :biggrin:
Does enrollment really matter? Does their higher enrollment fill their stadiums? If a team has good fan support like NDSU they should move up regardless of enrollment.Quote:
Originally Posted by WhoRepsTheLurker
It's not a factor in all conferences especially P5. But close proximity in the MAC specifically are a core benefit of their conference. If CUSA had the option to have a smaller footprint they would.Quote:
Originally Posted by daddy daycare
It's not an absolute show stopper but it's far from a non factor when it comes to the G5 conferences.
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I don't think enrollment matters much in this situation. Large enrollments do help long term, though..More students means more alumni and more alumni means more boosters. Good for long term health
Yes and no. It's somewhat of a perception issue. Based on the comments I've seen here is like people think of MAC schools as small directional schools beneath NDSU when in reality they are much bigger. Not B1G big but also not urban commuter campuses like IUPUI or UMKC.Quote:
Originally Posted by B.Schlossman Fan Club
The size does create more revenue as a school and a large alumni base but that doesn't automatically equate to more investment in athletics or interest from a larger student body or alumni base.
The surrounding population and close proximity were also key points of my comment. We are on the edge of this footprint but I know people who have gone to many of these schools and there is definitely crossover of geographies with 9 of the 12 schools being in Ohio or Michigan and most fitting in an area the size of North Dakota. Even when they are UMass and Temple for awhile, I'm just as close to UMass as I am NDSU and there is only one school west of me in the MAC. The mass of the MAC is closer to Amherst than Fargo and distance was a factor in that experience.
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You must kill on geography categories on Jeopardy!Quote:
Originally Posted by IndyBison
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mid-Am...nce#/maplink/0
Spotify homie. Soundcloud's system is junk. From my understanding, I was probably about 2 years old the last time NDSU ran the veer (born in '92). But don't get it mistaken, if I'm OC we're absolutely running the veer.Quote:
Originally Posted by The_Sicatoka
I'm young enough to know that UND's AD is wasting his time if he thinks the Soundcloud podcast generation give 2 rips what he's talking about lol. And it's like an hour-plus long? He'd be better off with a TikTok.
Just do 5-10 minute radio interviews man, no one needs a filibuster
I've been saying it for months now when people ask why I push MW over MAC. Almost all MAC schools are bus trips currently. ALL schools in the MAC are a flight away for us. That would be a tough pill for them to swallow. Add in the fact that they're probably not going to enjoy the outcome of said flight, and what's really in it for them? The only plus I see is that it provides them more access to Minneapolis which right now has absolutely 0 MAC presence.Quote:
Originally Posted by IndyBison
The MW is further away but they're already flying all over wazoo.
Guys that give $2.6M (like this week) want substance and conversation, not a TikTok one-hit.Quote:
Originally Posted by NDSU92
You're not seein' it; you're missing the stogies and scotch Chaves and Heinert are enjoying during the recording.
Given what they do have, is MSP even a thought to them.Quote:
Originally Posted by NDSU92
What about non revenue sports? Football and Basketball it doesn’t matter. It’s a big deal for non revenue sportsQuote:
Originally Posted by IndyBison
WKU and MTSU would be flights for most of the MAC and were reportedly invited as a pair. I understand the MAC asking that pair first but if it doesn't happen and the MAC does decide to expand the xDSU pair is nearly equivalent travel wise.Quote:
Originally Posted by IndyBison
Our enrollment size isn't a plus to either the MAC or MWC, but the bigger problem is the trend. How would you feel if a conference candidate had falling enrollment every year since 2014? We're approaching a decade of anti-growth, which we need to fix asap for more reasons more than just athletics.
Many of the non revenue sports don't have a conference schedule like football and basketball. Soccer and volleyball possibly. Track, golf, cross country, etc. don't. Baseball and softball already spend a lot of their time traveling south. But it would definitely have an impact on those non revenue sports and how the NDSU location makes it harder than App State, Georgia State, Coastal Carolina, James Madison, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by B.Schlossman Fan Club
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Yep, pretty sure this is why all the rumored CUSA targets are in the Southeast ... Kennesaw, SFA, Tarleton, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by IndyBison
Though I still think they hold at 9 schools for a while, the financials are better that way for them and they are tight on money.
Enough conference revenue can overcome the expenses side of travel, which is part of why MWC is the best answer. MWC may be the only G5 conference that can check all the boxes and have interest in NDSU.
Based on conversations I had at the time NDSU moved to FCS there was much more interest in going east rather than west for conference affiliation. It's more in the recruiting and alumni footprint. It may have minimal impact on Minnesota recruits but a much bigger impact on the Iowa, Wisconsin, Illinois, Missouri, Omaha recruits. They would have to change to western states as a focus. It could be done and I expect NDSU would do it better than the UND Big Sky experiment. Different people and different financials involved now but some of the factors are still there.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigHorns
I would be in favor of any FBS option. I think it's a good move for the university and would be fun to see the Bison compete with those teams. But I also really enjoy watching them excel at the FCS level. I'll support regardless.
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you're bragging about some moron who donated 2.6mil to a niche sport that literally no one cares about? what a waste of money, his family should be proudQuote:
Originally Posted by The_Sicatoka
NDSU playing Arizona on FS1. got more attention nationally than last 10 years of your hockey program
NDSU SHOULD ALREADY BE FBS. AND NO NONE OF THE REGIONAL SCHOOLS SHOULD COME WITH
duhhhhh
He was the goalie on the 1959 NCAA Champions.Quote:
Originally Posted by El_Chapo
The niche sport Oregon is offering to add to help sweeten their B1G application?Quote:
Originally Posted by El_Chapo
Is that your claim to fame? A northern niche sport that a northern school offered to add after beach volleyball? With a gun to their head?Quote:
Originally Posted by abc123
I mean by all means go for it, yall will never be relevant as long as you preach at teh hockies altar
“Look we’re Midwest!!” What’s next? Drop an “ope” on the next conference call lol
Boy, you sure got a lot out of me pointing out that Oregon is offering to add a hockey team as an incentive to be invited into the most elite conference in the NCAA.Quote:
Originally Posted by NDSU92
My point is that it’s completely irrelevant…Quote:
Originally Posted by abc123
Offering something doesn’t make what you’re offering inherently more valuable or as valuable as the entire deal you’re proposing.
This isn’t siouxsports try to keep up
Watching Air Force vs Nevada and got to wondering. What would our "MW" logo look like on our field? Would we use green as the primary color with yellow trim or the other way around?
Maybe someone can work up both versions so we can all disagree on another topic.
https://ftw.usatoday.com/2013/05/wyo...ll-field-photo
Maybe like this but with green instead of brown.
CSU goes with green and yellow..
I'd like to see what this would look like in Yellow and White.Quote:
Originally Posted by MWC
Green feels like it might blend into the field too much unless it was outlined in bold white or yellow.