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NDSU is the first FCS school at 63, right between KSU and Purdue
The next FCS schools are SC State and UNI at 98 and 99
Good year for the MVFC in 22, though, no doubt
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I count NDSU 2, SDSU 2, UND 1, MoSt 1, UNI 1, YSU 1 ... for 8. Who am I missing?Quote:
Originally Posted by WhoRepsTheLurker
https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/...0m98h4ijgtbjkw
They're counting John Ridgeway in that total. He played at Illinois St for 4 years before grad transferring to Arkansas in 2021.Quote:
Originally Posted by The_Sicatoka
https://herosports.com/fcs-players-2022-nfl-draft-bzbz/
Why can't MVFC media days be on ESPN + like the WAC? WTF!!!
Check out our WAC Football Media Day schedule for Tuesday, July 19 live on ESPN+
Have you asked the league office and used your extensive influence? If the league is on ESPN3, covering media day seems reasonable.Quote:
Originally Posted by El_Chapo
We better rally the troops and Email ESPN and DEMAND this happen!!!!
well yes we should. just embarrassing at this pointQuote:
Originally Posted by BISONBRI53
patty v collecting that check doing nothing
Maybe we should have an MVFC media day game day thread.
streaming LIVE from Tony's backyard.Quote:
Originally Posted by tony
Will tony have to clean his windows for this event? Someone get him a five-point harness and tie him off if so.Quote:
Originally Posted by El_Chapo
In light of that list (from Sam Herder's Twitter), this has gone from curiosity to an outright slight to the MVFC.
A missed sponsorship opportunity ...
https://www.al.com/sec/2022/07/bushs...rce=reddit.com
I know you can't hold 'em back; let 'em rip ... the jokes that is.
me and Sicotka agree. embarrassing. this can still be rectified with 1 freakin phone callQuote:
Originally Posted by The_Sicatoka
hi espn, this is the mvfc if we send you the live stream will you put it on espn +
answer. Yes
Thats bush league. Then again out conference was thrilled to add Murray State.Quote:
Originally Posted by The_Sicatoka
Its just laziness by the conference
So you would rather have it available to those who pay extra for ESPN+ than to everyone on the virtual stream??Quote:
Originally Posted by El_Chapo
you do both, plus it's obvious more college football fans would watch on espn+ because we are already paying for it for gamesQuote:
Originally Posted by imabison
I watch college football every Saturday on cable and only pay for espn+ when it's the only way to watch the Bison when they are on the conference game of the week.Quote:
Originally Posted by El_Chapo
Patty V was a drip on her media day Q & A just now. couldn't watch her or Matt Entz on ESPN+ but 1660am
we need to get out of this clown ass league.
someone asked if ndsu winning every year is good for fcs?
Patty said "anytime you win a title is good and I'll leave it at that".
like wtf.
Patty is clearly banking on the hope that the P2 leaves and the MVFC jumps up to the second level with G5 and P5 dregs. As great as that sounds, caution is in order. There is no indication that this will actually happen, and if it does it will be 10 years or more away.Quote:
Originally Posted by El_Chapo
So this begs the question that likely divides the fanbase: is it better to strive to jump now alone or sit tight and hope …
Can't wait that decision until we see where the SEC, B1G, B12 and Pac end up.Quote:
Originally Posted by WhoRepsTheLurker
Then the shuffling really begins amongst the G5 conferences. Some form of the MWC after they get pillaged? a MVFC/BIG Sky G5 conference?
Who the hell knows.
She is hoping but the reality is the G5 will never have their own Championship game. They will chase Bowls like they do now. Its insane. So lets say Boise makes a bigger Bowl. Are they going to turn down a G5 playoff? So the champion wont be a true ChampionQuote:
Originally Posted by WhoRepsTheLurker
And if the MVFC "moves up", are we going to be more excited to play FBS Indiana State?
If move-up-now people really have an issue with the quality of the MVFC they’re not going to be happy wherever we land in the G5 either. The football is simply not that much better than our current conference, it is a lot better than our current sub-division though. So the non conference/playoff(bowl) opponent quality would go way up.Quote:
Originally Posted by HerdBot
That is mostly the point in the near future imo. Out of conference and possible bowl opponents. That has to be better than drake, Towson, Albany, etcQuote:
Originally Posted by bisonaudit
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I actually disagree...at least as far as I'm concerned. If we landed in the worst FBS conference--i.e. CUSA--I'd find playing WKU, Liberty, UTEP, and MTSU more interesting than everyone in our conference. And I'd even find playing JSU and SHSU more interesting than everyone in our conference except SDSU and UNI.Quote:
Originally Posted by bisonaudit
And the out of conference games would be FAR more interesting than Drake and NC A&M.
Yea I don't understand these fcs forever types that say. oh no not cusa or Mac or sun belt!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Professorbum
you're playing much better teams, seeing better athletes and your OOC would be fantastic!!!
P5 P5 G5 at home and throw in a SDSU or UNI for a fcs game? let's gooo
And who are these established G5’s who are going to travel to FargoQuote:
Originally Posted by El_Chapo
for a non-conference game??? They could be doing it right now, right?
And who are the established G5’s who might schedule home/home with NDSU???
Couldn’t they be doing it right now???
And who are these two FBS who are going to schedule the Bison
once they have FBS membership??? They could be doing it right now,
for 1/2 the cost……
I’m always interested in seeing articles on this, from substantive sources.
Show where all NDSU needs is CUSA or independent membership in FBS and these teams would be willing to schedule NDSU.
Patty is 70? It might be time ...
https://www.chicagonow.com/prairie-s...ate-landscape/Quote:
“As things unfold nationally, I think we have to have a game plan in place for how we will fit into whatever landscape develops.
“To me, the key to success across the entire division is that we maintain our ties to the highest level of Division I football. And that’s for the good of the game.”
The MAC is better than CUSA or SunBelt, right?
The MVFC is the MAC right now.
Stolen from myself ...
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Food for thought:
I'd love to see head-to-head series today between the MAC and the MVFC.
Seeds/games would be based on final Massey Ratings (all DI CFB) from 2021, namely:
NDSU 42 vs CMU 82
SDSU 81 vs WMU 83
UNI 101 vs NIU 93
Mo St 105 vs Toledo 95
SIU 108 vs Miami 99
USD 111 vs Ball St 109
UND 119 vs Kent 113
YSU 145 vs EMU 118
Ill St 149 vs Buffalo 129
Ind St 160 vs Ohio 141
WIU 168 vs BGSU 151
Murray St 186 vs Akron 179
Murray State isn't MVFC quite yet, but I needed a 12th team.
The Sagarin ranking comparisons are similar (MVFC vs MAC):
NDSU 38 vs CMU 69
SDSU 71 vs WMU 72
UNI 99 vs Toledo 80
MO St 103 vs Miami 87
SIU 109 vs NIU 93
USD 117 vs Ball St 104
UND 119 vs EMU 107
YSU 143 vs Kent 108
Ill St 158 vs Buffalo 125
Ind St 169 vs Ohio 132
WIU 179 vs BGSU 153
Murray St 191 vs Akron 181
The MVFC right now is the "western MAC", without the FBS label (and revenues and expenses).
cuz the stigma of ndsu being fcs isn't thereQuote:
Originally Posted by bruinbison
we'd actually be FBS and we'd use our regional schools as minor leagues & pluck the best players whenever we want.
There's national interest in NDSU. The Fargodome is a ruckus environment and a fun challenge for opposing teams. They love to shut the crowd down. Schools want to play and beat NDSU. But as an FCS school, the risk is far greater than the reward. On the other hand, NDSU as an FBS school--if they lost to us (especially in the dome), it would be a "good" loss for them. There's no reason to think NDSU could not find FBS opponents if we were in the FBS.Quote:
Originally Posted by bruinbison
P5 schools are not going to be interested in coming to the Fargo Dome, especially if we perform as expected in FBS.Quote:
Originally Posted by Professorbum
P5 schools want easy OOC wins, not a chance at a loss to a G5.
We would be lucky to get the P5's to give us good buy games.
MAC is ok as a lateral move to get us into FBS. But anyone thinking that will give us big time home games doesn't understand how this works.
A B1G, SEC or PAC school has little to gain by visiting Fargo.
Also, we should wait to see what shakes out with the PAC/MWC. Some people have us listed as a PAC long shot, and MWC would be a far superior long term home. Once we make a move, it won't be easy to move again in less than 5 years.
- That “stigma” must be a quite the powerful, unseen force……Quote:
Originally Posted by El_Chapo
Otherwise Gene Taylor would be getting a revenge game for KState. *
- That “stigma” must be a quite the powerful, unseen force……
Otherwise PJ would have confidence his Gophers could break that 2 Game losing streak to the Bison. **
- That “stigma” must be a quite the powerful, unseen force……
Otherwise Gary Barta could get the Bison back to Iowa City, let the Coach do his thing this time. ***
- That “stigma” must be a quite the powerful, unseen force……
Otherwise Kansas could put that basketball money to use, plus maybe sellout a game. ****
And elsewhere
- That “stigma” must be a quite the powerful, unseen force……
Otherwise Craig Bohl could assert dominance over NDSU and never lose another recruiting battle against the Bison. *****
- That “stigma” must be a quite the powerful, unseen force……
Otherwise Nebraska & Coach Frost could get that easy cupcake game cheap, say $300,000. ******
- That “stigma” must be a quite the powerful, unseen force……
Otherwise Wisconsin could also have that inexpensive OOC game. *******
- Last, but not the least, since it was a quality NDSU win, surely
Central Michigan must want payback!!! Well, don’t call them surely ********
And on and on and on and on
* SEMO, FH’s
** Southern Illinois
*** Northern Iowa
**** Stephen F Austin
***** Portland State, Southern Utah
****** Fighting Hawks
******* Western Illinois, Southern Illinois
******** New Hampshire
we get it. you like class b nd stuff. geez..
No, you absolutely don’t get it.Quote:
Originally Posted by El_Chapo
The latest thing you are trying to sell - again - is NDSU would have this wonderful schedule - if they were just FBS. Then FBS schools would schedule the Bison.
News flash!!!
Those FCS schools I just listed are the FCS schools the Minnesotas and the KStates and the others are already playing.
The last I checked none of them are FBS.
I even took it easy on you and Professor Bum by not including FCS schools they are playing in 2022 and 2024, since NDSU long ago scheduled Arizona & Colorado for those years. For example, Minnesota plays Western Illinois this fall, Iowa plays the Jackrabbits.
You need to read more than the latest post of a conversation if you're going to weigh in. I was responding to a post that alleged we would never get any decent G5 schools to come play us. I never said we'd get P5 schools to come to the Fargodome.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigHorns
bum.. its what they DO they move the goalposts
Fair enough, though I don't think Boise St or a BYU caliber school will be eager to play at Fargo either. The only guaranteed games are those in the conference we join.Quote:
Originally Posted by Professorbum
It's fun for us, but I don't think our opponents enjoy playing at Fargo, even in FCS. They just don't get a choice in the playoffs.Quote:
The Fargodome is a ruckus environment and a fun challenge for opposing teams. They love to shut the crowd down. Schools want to play and beat NDSU
Do some FCS teams want to play NDSU? Probably yes if outside Fargo, but many would be happy to not see us in their bracket at all.
Honest question : would you and Chapo be happy if we joined the MAC and had to play primarily those schools for the next 15 years?
MTSU fans say the MAC wanted a 15 year GoR as a condition of joining.
I'm not against the MAC, but do think we might regret that if in the next 6-12 months an MWC opening came along.