A new and better FBS thread

Fucking Gus was the only one of you football pussies we really liked.

I still think hiring bohl was a snarky joke on wrestling.

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Lol/j/k

He didn’t even WANT to punt.

Just did it because you NEEDY BITCHES NEEDED IT!!!

LOL

Now that fucker…. He got treated like a wrestler.

Lol. Look out Gene.

I never liked Air Force pussies.

Is half a grinder load on a Tuesday before breakfast too much….

My back hurts?

Asking for a friend.

Or navy or whatever the fuck gene.

Ooh I’m sorry I forgot. Ooh.

Lol

(Feel free to explain the jokes to our mountain west friends if you get them. And dare to.

Wrestlers don’t sleep. We wait. Like Travis Beck. Also like him. And Esley.)

Easy Esley Thornton.

How did you miss on that one NDSU MARKETING?

Dude was fucking handsome stud and you are watching the UGLY quarterback on the team. The DUMB one…

Nice red beard guy. But you ain’t no “Easy”

Grant Olson. Looses that knee. He woulda made it. Just like Travis.

We ran some of these guys over a bit man. They did it for the quarterbacks to go pro.

Like the wrestlers. We bleed for NDSU FOOTBALL. And it is time for US to take what is OURS.

Little brother going big. We have done enough already.

Fuck everybody else. We are ready. And we are about done with their bullshit.

Fucking BISON INDEPENDANCE. BISON DOMINANCE.

TM

It ain’t like these guys are adrianna Peterson or whatever her name is. And fuck her if they are.

-Grant Olson.

That is what he actually said. Bohl cleaned it up. Because he became a wrestler too. Great guy. Fuck you guys talking shit about him.

Grant also became a North Dakotan. Worthy of amy when he said that.

And I’m sorry guys…. North Dakotan>Bison at the core.

Cause those fuckers are tough. God made us that way. It’s the wind.

After 1 week of College Football.
Where would you rank NDSU in the FBS??

I say #20 or #25..... what say you?

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Originally Posted by El_Chapo

After 1 week of College Football.
Where would you rank NDSU in the FBS??

I say #20 or #25..... what say you?

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Sagarin says #58 right now.

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Originally Posted by IndyBison

You do realize the CFP is not an NCAA organization and the winner is not an NCAA champion? At the end of the day the NCAA is a membership, compliance, and championship organization. The membership decides what rules they want to apply and follow. There is a lot of value in sharing that responsibility among all the NCAA universities.

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Speaking of CFP, NCAA, ...

Who gets to decide how many FBS conferences there are now? Any chance they could set firm standards, with a 1-year probation period for relegation? More money for them

Looking at you CUSA. Who gets to jump should be merit based, not survival based

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Originally Posted by WhoRepsTheLurker

Speaking of CFP, NCAA, ...

Who gets to decide how many FBS conferences there are now? Any chance they could set firm standards, with a 1-year probation period for relegation? More money for them

Looking at you CUSA. Who gets to jump should be merit based, not survival based

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The CFP has representatives from all the FBS conferences who hash out the contract terms among themselves.
The catch is the biggest voices/votes are the biggest conferences, the P5 and specifically the SEC and B1G.
They won't invite any new conferences to the party, though maybe some get kicked out in time.
There has been FBS talk about upping the standards in a way that would squeeze some conferences out (monetarily).

The other FBS conferences will mostly do what the SEC and B1G want, because those two can just leave, form their own playoff system, and invite who they want to the party. A lot of people thought this was inevitable, and it still might happen.

All of this by the way is why we need to care about the other teams in our conference.
We need to join a conference that makes sense, has good competition and fun games, regardless of who is in or out of FBS and CFP.

Imagine joining CUSA, and then they get booted out.
Would we get excited to play NMSU, FIU, UTEP, etc? I sure wouldn't.

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Originally Posted by BigHorns

The CFP has representatives from all the FBS conferences who hash out the contract terms among themselves.
The catch is the biggest voices/votes are the biggest conferences, the P5 and specifically the SEC and B1G.
They won't invite any new conferences to the party, though maybe some get kicked out in time.
There has been FBS talk about upping the standards in a way that would squeeze some conferences out (monetarily).

The other FBS conferences will mostly do what the SEC and B1G want, because those two can just leave, form their own playoff system, and invite who they want to the party. A lot of people thought this was inevitable, and it still might happen.

All of this by the way is why we need to care about the other teams in our conference.
We need to join a conference that makes sense, has good competition and fun games, regardless of who is in or out of FBS and CFP.

Imagine joining CUSA, and then they get booted out.
Would we get excited to play NMSU, FIU, UTEP, etc? I sure wouldn't.

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Based on FB budget?

The second point would be the definition of suckage and would put us at a big disadvantage in FCS

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Originally Posted by BigHorns

The CFP has representatives from all the FBS conferences who hash out the contract terms among themselves.
The catch is the biggest voices/votes are the biggest conferences, the P5 and specifically the SEC and B1G.
They won't invite any new conferences to the party, though maybe some get kicked out in time.
There has been FBS talk about upping the standards in a way that would squeeze some conferences out (monetarily).

The other FBS conferences will mostly do what the SEC and B1G want, because those two can just leave, form their own playoff system, and invite who they want to the party. A lot of people thought this was inevitable, and it still might happen.

All of this by the way is why we need to care about the other teams in our conference.
We need to join a conference that makes sense, has good competition and fun games, regardless of who is in or out of FBS and CFP.

Imagine joining CUSA, and then they get booted out.
Would we get excited to play NMSU, FIU, UTEP, etc? I sure wouldn't.

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What difference does it make bro? Do you get excited to play WIU? ISU (either of them)? Misery State? Hell, even UNI is stale because they suck so bad.

FIU works for me bro. Let's go.

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Originally Posted by BigHorns

The CFP has representatives from all the FBS conferences who hash out the contract terms among themselves.
The catch is the biggest voices/votes are the biggest conferences, the P5 and specifically the SEC and B1G.
They won't invite any new conferences to the party, though maybe some get kicked out in time.
There has been FBS talk about upping the standards in a way that would squeeze some conferences out (monetarily).

The other FBS conferences will mostly do what the SEC and B1G want, because those two can just leave, form their own playoff system, and invite who they want to the party. A lot of people thought this was inevitable, and it still might happen.

All of this by the way is why we need to care about the other teams in our conference.
We need to join a conference that makes sense, has good competition and fun games, regardless of who is in or out of FBS and CFP.

Imagine joining CUSA, and then they get booted out.
Would we get excited to play NMSU, FIU, UTEP, etc? I sure wouldn't.

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Imagine still being in FCS when all of this plays out. Do I get excited about playing ISU (blue), WIU, YSU, etc? I sure don't.

And by the way, every time some positive development happens in FBS, some folks love to post and explain why we can't ever benefit from it and so we should be wary of joining FBS unless conditions are perfect. ("When lightening strikes in the same place three times and Europa crashes into Jupiter, then we can join FBS. See? I'm not FCS forever.") We had the BCS system, and people said we'd only get to play in the Toilet Bowl in Detroit. We'd have no shot at a NY6. Forget Boise, forget WMU. That doesn't apply to us. Then there was a 4-team playoff with early talk of expansion. We'd never have a shot at that and there's no way the P5 will let that get bigger to allow for G5s. If we want to play for national championships, we must stay FCS. Forget Cincinnati. Now it looks like there will be a 12-team playoff. But don't go to the one FBS conference that might take you. They suck and so they'll be booted from any chance at the playoff anyway. No team from CUSA will ever make it. Forget that the Sunbelt was the Sunbelch only a few years ago. Forget that a good FBS team will have a chance to prove itself in OOC. Forget that Liberty is joining the conference and was ranked #17 a couple years ago.

I wish we wouldn't keep listening to naysayers.

Define "naysayers"

I want NDSU to go FBS and I want CUSA to die. I don’t want to share $$ with that crap

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Originally Posted by Professorbum

Imagine still being in FCS when all of this plays out. Do I get excited about playing ISU (blue), WIU, YSU, etc? I sure don't.

And by the way, every time some positive development happens in FBS, some folks love to post and explain why we can't ever benefit from it and so we should be wary of joining FBS unless conditions are perfect. ("When lightening strikes in the same place three times and Europa crashes into Jupiter, then we can join FBS. See? I'm not FCS forever.") We had the BCS system, and people said we'd only get to play in the Toilet Bowl in Detroit. We'd have no shot at a NY6. Forget Boise, forget WMU. That doesn't apply to us. Then there was a 4-team playoff with early talk of expansion. We'd never have a shot at that and there's no way the P5 will let that get bigger to allow for G5s. If we want to play for national championships, we must stay FCS. Forget Cincinnati. Now it looks like there will be a 12-team playoff. But don't go to the one FBS conference that might take you. They suck and so they'll be booted from any chance at the playoff anyway. No team from CUSA will ever make it. Forget that the Sunbelt was the Sunbelch only a few years ago. Forget that a good FBS team will have a chance to prove itself in OOC. Forget that Liberty is joining the conference and was ranked #17 a couple years ago.

I wish we wouldn't keep listening to naysayers.

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Quoted for truth.

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Originally Posted by WhoRepsTheLurker

Define "naysayers"

I want NDSU to go FBS and I want CUSA to die. I don’t want to share $$ with that crap

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Those two wants may not be compatible. So which one do you want more?

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Originally Posted by Professorbum

Those two wants may not be compatible. So which one do you want more?

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It's my opinion that they are compatible, and I want them both
AmIright? Who the hell knows but I'll stick to my gut
I don't have any say in this anyway, beyond supporting the school and program

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Originally Posted by Professorbum

Imagine still being in FCS when all of this plays out. Do I get excited about playing ISU (blue), WIU, YSU, etc? I sure don't.

And by the way, every time some positive development happens in FBS, some folks love to post and explain why we can't ever benefit from it and so we should be wary of joining FBS unless conditions are perfect. ("When lightening strikes in the same place three times and Europa crashes into Jupiter, then we can join FBS. See? I'm not FCS forever.") We had the BCS system, and people said we'd only get to play in the Toilet Bowl in Detroit. We'd have no shot at a NY6. Forget Boise, forget WMU. That doesn't apply to us. Then there was a 4-team playoff with early talk of expansion. We'd never have a shot at that and there's no way the P5 will let that get bigger to allow for G5s. If we want to play for national championships, we must stay FCS. Forget Cincinnati. Now it looks like there will be a 12-team playoff. But don't go to the one FBS conference that might take you. They suck and so they'll be booted from any chance at the playoff anyway. No team from CUSA will ever make it. Forget that the Sunbelt was the Sunbelch only a few years ago. Forget that a good FBS team will have a chance to prove itself in OOC. Forget that Liberty is joining the conference and was ranked #17 a couple years ago.

I wish we wouldn't keep listening to naysayers.

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People think I'm nuts when I say I fully believe our long-term goal (20-ish years) should be amongst our peers in the B12. Kansas State, Oklahoma State, Iowa State, etc.

Academically, athletically, administratively.

We're already at or near the level of the western flagship land grants in the G5 level. NMSU, CSU, Nevada, Utah State. Enrollment will be difficult to match, but academics and endowment we're right there already...

I'm 30 and I would love to see us in a different peer group by the time I retire. Whatever it takes to get there. This is a long game for me.

If people had held out for the MVFC (then called the Gateway) for us to jump from D2 to DI-AA we'd never have gotten an invite. That required the Great West Conference which justly died after serving as a logical stepping stone.

A lot of top programs in the CUSA will view it as the same in 5-10 years.

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Originally Posted by NDSU92

People think I'm nuts when I say I fully believe our long-term goal (20-ish years) should be amongst our peers in the B12. Kansas State, Oklahoma State, Iowa State, etc.

Academically, athletically, administratively.

We're already at or near the level of the western flagship land grants in the G5 level. NMSU, CSU, Nevada, Utah State. Enrollment will be difficult to match, but academics and endowment we're right there already...

I'm 30 and I would love to see us in a different peer group by the time I retire. Whatever it takes to get there. This is a long game for me.

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I don't think you're nuts. I agree with you 100% on this. Yours is an ambitious, but realistic, aspiration. I hope Cook shares it. The people who think you are nuts are probably the same ones who thought we should have stayed in our lane and not get into the Ph.D.-granting business, and certainly not leave the NCC in athletics. NDSU is an amazing institution that almost always overachieves. At some point, what constitutes overachievement is no longer overachievement, but just the standard expectation. I'm befuddled by people who underestimate NDSU's potential.

You have an excellent football program and brand that would be an asset for any G5 conference..

Anyhoo, I will be popping out of here for now.

If there is some movement that is afoot that involves the MW or your school makes some move, I will come back around.

My only goal here has been to stick up for my mates and to comment on what I see as some misconceptions about the MW.

It is never easy but I do think you can get to your goals.

Good luck and good health ...

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Originally Posted by MWC

You have an excellent football program and brand that would be an asset for any G5 conference..

Anyhoo, I will be popping out of here for now.

If there is some movement that is afoot that involves the MW or your school makes some move, I will come back around.

My only goal here has been to stick up for my mates and to comment on what I see as some misconceptions about the MW.

It is never easy but I do think you can get to your goals.

Good luck and good health ...

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Sounds good and in the meantime we'll work on our bball program lol

Appreciate the input, MWC. Nevada is no longer an afterthought to me ;)

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Originally Posted by Professorbum

Imagine still being in FCS when all of this plays out. Do I get excited about playing ISU (blue), WIU, YSU, etc? I sure don't.

And by the way, every time some positive development happens in FBS, some folks love to post and explain why we can't ever benefit from it and so we should be wary of joining FBS unless conditions are perfect. ("When lightening strikes in the same place three times and Europa crashes into Jupiter, then we can join FBS. See? I'm not FCS forever.") We had the BCS system, and people said we'd only get to play in the Toilet Bowl in Detroit. We'd have no shot at a NY6. Forget Boise, forget WMU. That doesn't apply to us. Then there was a 4-team playoff with early talk of expansion. We'd never have a shot at that and there's no way the P5 will let that get bigger to allow for G5s. If we want to play for national championships, we must stay FCS. Forget Cincinnati. Now it looks like there will be a 12-team playoff. But don't go to the one FBS conference that might take you. They suck and so they'll be booted from any chance at the playoff anyway. No team from CUSA will ever make it. Forget that the Sunbelt was the Sunbelch only a few years ago. Forget that a good FBS team will have a chance to prove itself in OOC. Forget that Liberty is joining the conference and was ranked #17 a couple years ago.

I wish we wouldn't keep listening to naysayers.

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Do you think the AD and President are listening to fans posting on Bisonville?

Maybe I'm a naysayer. Maybe I think the scenarios you post are 99% unlikely to be remotely possible.

It shouldn't take a genius to figure out the MWC or even MAC at this point don't need or want NDSU. So if we're going FBS, its CUSA. Fine by me....just like this year's home schedule, going to save me plenty of trips to Fargo.

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Originally Posted by El_Chapo

After 1 week of College Football.
Where would you rank NDSU in the FBS??

I say #20 or #25..... what say you?

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Somewhere in the 40s perhaps. Along with the Jackrabbits of Brookings.

Hey, I'm all for ambition and I've said many times the various improvements we should prioritize. Thinking we're peers of the B12 is simply delusional. We're as far from them as VCSU is from us. At the institutional level our peers are the other Dakotas, Montanas, etc. Sorry, that's not small time thinking. It's being realistic and not trying to force us into something we will absolutely fail at.
We'll never be in a power conference, but that doesn't mean we can't be FBS.

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Originally Posted by taper

Hey, I'm all for ambition and I've said many times the various improvements we should prioritize. Thinking we're peers of the B12 is simply delusional. We're as far from them as VCSU is from us. At the institutional level our peers are the other Dakotas, Montanas, etc. Sorry, that's not small time thinking. It's being realistic and not trying to force us into something we will absolutely fail at.
We'll never be in a power conference, but that doesn't mean we can't be FBS.

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I wouldn't say we are as far away from them as VCSU is to us. We are a smaller version of most of them. VCSU is not a smaller version of us. Heck, TCU isn't even R1 and they have fewer students than we do. They obviously do have a large endowment. But still...

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Originally Posted by daddy daycare

Do you think the AD and President are listening to fans posting on Bisonville?

Maybe I'm a naysayer. Maybe I think the scenarios you post are 99% unlikely to be remotely possible.

It shouldn't take a genius to figure out the MWC or even MAC at this point don't need or want NDSU. So if we're going FBS, its CUSA. Fine by me....just like this year's home schedule, going to save me plenty of trips to Fargo.

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No, actually I don't. Sadly.

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Originally Posted by Professorbum

No, actually I don't. Sadly.

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the simple reason why you go FBS now no matter what... the playoff. The 6th highest champion gets an autobid. That 6th conference will come from the current G5. Get into a conference, go undefeated and hope for a few other losses by other top schools and you are in.

I'd prefer a football only so go wherever we can get that. If it needs to be all sports....then accept that invite as well.

It doesn't really matter where, be it MWC, MAC or CUSA. Just gotta get into a conference and make it happen.

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Originally Posted by Professorbum

No, actually I don't. Sadly.

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Don’t even seem like Bison to some man.

Not anymore.

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Originally Posted by MWC

You have an excellent football program and brand that would be an asset for any G5 conference..

Anyhoo, I will be popping out of here for now.

If there is some movement that is afoot that involves the MW or your school makes some move, I will come back around.

My only goal here has been to stick up for my mates and to comment on what I see as some misconceptions about the MW.

It is never easy but I do think you can get to your goals.

Good luck and good health ...

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Okey dokey back mountain brokey!

See you in the middle national sports pages.

Look for us on the front after we throttle AZ and we will think about how “big time” you are.

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Originally Posted by NDSUguy

the simple reason why you go FBS now no matter what... the playoff. The 6th highest champion gets an autobid. That 6th conference will come from the current G5. Get into a conference, go undefeated and hope for a few other losses by other top schools and you are in.

I'd prefer a football only so go wherever we can get that. If it needs to be all sports....then accept that invite as well.

It doesn't really matter where, be it MWC, MAC or CUSA. Just gotta get into a conference and make it happen.

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The CUSA is the only one looking to add teams. It's a shitshow but I'm at the point now where that's what they have to do unless some major changes take place. That being said there won't be a CUSA team making the top 12 anytime soon unless their non conference includes 2-3 massive upset wins.

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Originally Posted by taper

Hey, I'm all for ambition and I've said many times the various improvements we should prioritize. Thinking we're peers of the B12 is simply delusional. We're as far from them as VCSU is from us. At the institutional level our peers are the other Dakotas, Montanas, etc. Sorry, that's not small time thinking. It's being realistic and not trying to force us into something we will absolutely fail at.
We'll never be in a power conference, but that doesn't mean we can't be FBS.

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Delusional, idiotic, moronic. Always with the put downs and name calling. I could probably lob a few insults back at you for what I think of your opinions, but I don't come here to put others down and feel better about myself.

If we make similar strides to what we have in 25 years, being a school of the caliber of Iowa State, Kansas State, Oklahoma State is absolutely within reason. Take yourself back to wherever you were in '97 and think how far we've come since then.

Yes it's optimistic and not guaranteed we'll get there. But it's within reason to have that as our goal. Just like the growth of the last 25 years was.

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Originally Posted by NDSUguy

the simple reason why you go FBS now no matter what... the playoff. The 6th highest champion gets an autobid. That 6th conference will come from the current G5. Get into a conference, go undefeated and hope for a few other losses by other top schools and you are in.

I'd prefer a football only so go wherever we can get that. If it needs to be all sports....then accept that invite as well.

It doesn't really matter where, be it MWC, MAC or CUSA. Just gotta get into a conference and make it happen.

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At least you understand what NDSU is up against, which more than the people that are against any path to FBS.

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Originally Posted by NDSU92

Delusional, idiotic, moronic. Always with the put downs and name calling. I could probably lob a few insults back at you for what I think of your opinions, but I don't come here to put others down and feel better about myself.

If we make similar strides to what we have in 25 years, being a school of the caliber of Iowa State, Kansas State, Oklahoma State is absolutely within reason. Take yourself back to wherever you were in '97 and think how far we've come since then.

Yes it's optimistic and not guaranteed we'll get there. But it's within reason to have that as our goal. Just like the growth of the last 25 years was.

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Yep, it's always the same thing with those people. They aren't here to discuss any ideas to make FBS work, all they want to do is put people down, call names, and argue.

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Originally Posted by daddy daycare

The CUSA is the only one looking to add teams. It's a shitshow but I'm at the point now where that's what they have to do unless some major changes take place. That being said there won't be a CUSA team making the top 12 anytime soon unless their non conference includes 2-3 massive upset wins.

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Even though you feel it would be eating a crap sandwich, I'm happy to hear yours among the voices who recognize the need to get into FBS, even if it is by way of the CUSA. Which, by the way, I don't believe would be as awful as you think. I think NDSU would help the conference become something better than it is now.

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Originally Posted by NDSU92

People think I'm nuts when I say I fully believe our long-term goal (20-ish years) should be amongst our peers in the B12. Kansas State, Oklahoma State, Iowa State, etc.

Academically, athletically, administratively.

We're already at or near the level of the western flagship land grants in the G5 level. NMSU, CSU, Nevada, Utah State. Enrollment will be difficult to match, but academics and endowment we're right there already...

I'm 30 and I would love to see us in a different peer group by the time I retire. Whatever it takes to get there. This is a long game for me.

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this is the way. FARGO > Lawrence or Manhattan or Ames for pete's sake.

Build a 50,000 seat stadium & tell Big 12 we will come.


but we might just have to be CUSA.