Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.
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Originally Posted by
Snowgoose
I think the criticism on Wentz is overblown. He didn't play great and he didn't play horrible. He is just like Cousins. Even this year Cousins was taking some blame when for the most part he had a great year.
I looked up Wentz's fumble stats thinking they would be quite bad, but he had 8 fumbles according to the NFL site I looked at and after the top four QBs all of them had between 7-13. Murray had 13 and he doesn't take any blame for practically anything.
Now they are comparing Murray's bad play yesterday to Wentz. In my opinion it is a massive difference. If Wentz takes a sack there which was going to happen they don't get the ball back as it would have been safety. In some ways it was like the defense intentionally letting an offense score to get the ball back. Now I am not saying Wentz intentionally did it but the gamble was fine as they still had a chance to tie. No one discusses that at all they just completely bash him.
QBs always get too much credit when a team is successful and too much blame when a team loses. Nature of the best.
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Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.
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Originally Posted by
IndyBison
QBs always get too much credit when a team is successful and too much blame when a team loses. Nature of the best.
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I just checked and Wentz this year had a 94.6 QB rating and threw 27 TDs compared to 7 ints. It's pretty amazing how much the game has changed -- that those numbers are now essentially mediocre. Imagine Elway or Aikman having stats like that in a season.
Edit: Elway's highest-ever TD total in a season was 27. He never had a season with single digit interceptions. Aikman threw more than 20 TDs once in his career - I realize it's because he simply didn't need to, but it's still interesting. This all makes me want to watch football from the 80s and 90s instead of today.
Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.
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Originally Posted by
Snowgoose
I think the criticism on Wentz is overblown. He didn't play great and he didn't play horrible. He is just like Cousins. Even this year Cousins was taking some blame when for the most part he had a great year.
I looked up Wentz's fumble stats thinking they would be quite bad, but he had 8 fumbles according to the NFL site I looked at and after the top four QBs all of them had between 7-13. Murray had 13 and he doesn't take any blame for practically anything.
Now they are comparing Murray's bad play yesterday to Wentz. In my opinion it is a massive difference. If Wentz takes a sack there which was going to happen they don't get the ball back as it would have been safety. In some ways it was like the defense intentionally letting an offense score to get the ball back. Now I am not saying Wentz intentionally did it but the gamble was fine as they still had a chance to tie. No one discusses that at all they just completely bash him.
People criticizing Wentz have an agenda. Oftentimes you’ll see them going after Cousins and Rodgers too.
Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.
Well we'll find out if Goodell wants Cincinnati to win today. He's at the game
Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.
Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.
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Originally Posted by
El_Chapo
Wentz > tannehill
Crazy how Tannehill went 12-5 in the same division, played the same teams as the Colts, got a first round bye without his stud RB for 8 games, had a better QBR, threw for more yards, had more YPG passing, got sacked more than Wentz, and Carson didn't even make the playoffs.
Oh well. Guess Ryan is lucky. Maybe he is Irish?
Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.
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Originally Posted by
Wolfie
Crazy how Tannehill went 12-5 in the same division, played the same teams as the Colts, got a first round bye without his stud RB for 8 games, had a better QBR, threw for more yards, had more YPG passing, got sacked more than Wentz, and Carson didn't even make the playoffs.
Oh well. Guess Ryan is lucky. Maybe he is Irish?
He had a better oLine, duh.
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Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.
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Originally Posted by
Wolfie
Crazy how Tannehill went 12-5 in the same division, played the same teams as the Colts, got a first round bye without his stud RB for 8 games, had a better QBR, threw for more yards, had more YPG passing, got sacked more than Wentz, and Carson didn't even make the playoffs.
Oh well. Guess Ryan is lucky. Maybe he is Irish?
Nice, next do TD, INT and QB rating
Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.
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Originally Posted by
NDSU92
Nice, next do TD, INT and QB rating
I did do the QBR. Tannehill was better. I guess since there are like 15 different QB rating calculations, you could of course find one that puts Wentz ahead if you want.
I can add completion percentage too if you'd like. Tannehill was better there. He also had a better PFF if you like stats such as those.
Also, Tannehill won both matchups against Wentz this season.
Both played the same exact teams. Tahnnehill was missing the best RB in the NFL for half the year as well.
Those 6 extra TD's Wentz threw didn't help much did they? But, if it makes you feel better, yes, he threw 6 more TD's and 7 less ints.
I'm just stating facts, and I know those don't mean much when people don't want them to.
Based off their overall stats, team record and head to head results, I'd have a hard time saying Wentz>Tannehill this season.
Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.
Wentz had a 94.6 QB rating and Tannehill had a 89.5
