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I'm pretty sure the reason for the complaining isn't team, player or coach performance. It's the fact that some people just need to complain.Quote:
Originally Posted by SiouxHockeyBisonFo
Which is fine for me because I feel the need to argue against bad arguments :)
We are 4-1 correct?
SSSHHHHHHH. Don't use common sense here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Puetz
Yea and we are 153-13 we demand perfection since we are fcsQuote:
Originally Posted by Jim Puetz
I will always lobby for Cole Payton to be the starter; not because Cam isn't a good QB, but for the fact that Cole has the potential to be the best QB who ever put on a Bison uniform.
If the Bison had a more offensive minded coaching staff and an OC that was a pass game expert, sky is the limit. Could happen. Entz wins another championship he probably gets an offer or two.
Cole has an elite group of receivers in the pipeline. WR recruiting has been exceptionally excellent that last couple years. Real talent.
Based on WHAT?!?!?!? I have no idea what you guys are basing this on. Cole seems like a decent dude and is certainly athletic but unless somebody has seen him play several actual college games in a parallel universe where he's the starter and has been absolutely crushing it, you are full of shit. There's absolutely nothing - NOT A FUCKING THING - that justifies such hyperbole.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alsen
Good lord. WTF?!?
After reading similar hyperbole about Zeb and then Quincy before the on-field product ultimately disappointed. I'm never going to believe you fuckers again.
After reading similar hyperbole about Zeb and then Quincy before the on-field product ultimately disappointed. I'm never going to believe you fuckers again.[/QUOTE]
Don't forget Jose Mohler as well. Pimped a ton by one of the greatest football minds never who doesn't even have to watch a game to give a hot take on how a former Bison lineman performed in his second game.
Don't forget Jose Mohler as well. Pimped a ton by one of the greatest football minds never who doesn't even have to watch a game to give a hot take on how a former Bison lineman performed in his second game.[/QUOTE]Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Puetz
I really like your new hobby. :)
Don't forget Jose Mohler as well. Pimped a ton by one of the greatest football minds never who doesn't even have to watch a game to give a hot take on how a former Bison lineman performed in his second game.[/QUOTE]Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Puetz
that was 11 years ago, it was a shtick noob
We can talk offensive strategy on the Roehl thread.
calf circumferenceQuote:
Originally Posted by OrygunBison
This, all of this!:nod:Quote:
Originally Posted by OrygunBison
Go back and look. I was concerned over Quincy's thin calves from the jump.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bisonator98
that was 11 years ago, it was a shtick noobQuote:
Originally Posted by El_Chapo
We can talk offensive strategy on the Roehl thread.[/QUOTE]
And for 11 years your shtick hasn't changed/improved/gotten more interesting or relevant/etc. Keep up the great work trolling this fan site while every Saturday you cheer for your offensive powerhouse team, Sam Houston State.
There is plenty of opportunity for a WR to see time this year regardless of ageQuote:
Originally Posted by Alsen
Cole is such an incredible passer that every time the bring him into the game, all they do it let him run.
I don’t remember seeing Payton in the tree game today. Did I just miss him?
no, you did not. what the fuck is up with that? Oh, wait. Don't question coaches' perogative.
or last week. they don't want a qb controversyQuote:
Originally Posted by BisonNeil
Those caves will play at LB.Quote:
Originally Posted by El_Chapo
Those caves (calves) could probably do better than the current LBs!! Where’s fire from any linebacker to step up?Quote:
Originally Posted by bisonaudit
Yup, they are playing a bit tentative........similar to junior high boys at their first formal dance.......don't want to make the first move.Quote:
Originally Posted by DAS BISON
I will wager a night with Lakes Harem that Cole throws a pass next week vs SDSU. In fact I bet he throws more than. one.Quote:
Originally Posted by RonMexico
We don't have the size or the talent on D line or at LB.Quote:
Originally Posted by DAS BISON
Its Cole Payton Time. . . Just Announce it now to give Cam Miller a Courtesy heads up so he can transfer to NW Miss State.
we've seen his upside, time to unleash the beast!
You've already give Payton the kiss of death...don't know why you want to pile on more.Quote:
Originally Posted by El_Chapo
shit, he hasn't even been unleashed.
Honestly, I'm not sold on him as a passer, but since we're not going to do that anyway, it should have been him because he is a better runner than Cam. I like Cam and think we could win with him with the right playcalling, but we clearly are just going to run the QB 30x a game, so might as well put our running QB in.Quote:
Originally Posted by El_Chapo
Is he though? I haven't really been impressed with his running either. To be fair he hasn't had a lot of chances.Quote:
Originally Posted by EndZoneQB
Great! Now our play book went from half a page drawn in water colors to the top of a page consisting of a QB sneak drawn in finger paints and glue mixed in a few crusty Cheerios and drool. Can’t wait.Quote:
Originally Posted by El_Chapo
Huge fan of Cole but I'm not discarding Cam until we see him with a real OC.
Has Cam "earned" the starting job as QB1? Yes. Does that mean it is his with no competition? NO. QB1 spot is always open as well as other positions. Best player(s) play.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kevin
Every time I see this thread bumped to the top, I am concerned that I’ll see the announcement that Cole Payton has entered the Portal. Would anyone be surprised to see this happen?
We have been saying this all year...Quote:
Originally Posted by 1979 Bison
I wouldn't be that concerned from what I've seen of him.Quote:
Originally Posted by 1979 Bison
goto a NDSU practice or Pregame early
Payton has a much better arm its not even a debate.
Payton probably runs better too
Who has more upside? Cam can't put a team on his back and WIN a game like Lance/Wentz/Stick sorry. I bet Cole could.
If Cole Payton's not on the field there must be a reason.
Never forget: Everyone's favorite player is the backup QB.
PS - Cam Miller did not lose that game yesterday and was never in position to win it. See: 38-20 --> 38-21.
I can remember Payton throwing two passes. One was to the other team in AZ. The other was at a bug under the intended WR feet. (Which he did hit by the way) See what year 3 does for him but I expect Cam to be the man till he's gone from graduation. He's got a 66% passing percentage. Lead the team in rushing TDs. Those are good numbers for a QB and he still has time to get better. Consistency is his downfall right now and he'll have to improve on that.
I agree with everything you said....but id switch "Payton probably runs better too-----to Payton is MUCH BETTER runner tooQuote:
Originally Posted by El_Chapo
The reason is Cole is learning and it takes time. Cam is servicable right now. Not dynamic but capable. I have a gut feeliny Cole competes hard next year for the job. He is bigger, stronger, faster and had a better arm. But being a lefty could be hurting himQuote:
Originally Posted by The_Sicatoka
Takes time? Immediate gratification takes too long! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by HerdBot
(You gave the answer I expected: RFr v Jr)