Re: Wake up Bison Nation!
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Originally Posted by
SDbison
Typical anti FBS rant. So NDSU's president and AD have no responsibility to provide any kind of vision or pursue it? Maybe communicate now and then to the taxpayers, students, Alumni and Teammakers about these concerns? NDSU football has brought national attention to NDSU , Fargo and North Dakota so it's not like it isnt important. Other than recent convention center plans will there be improvements to the dome to build better suites and add some more seats for the future? How about football goimg to the next level? Is it strictly status quo and waiting for the phone to ring or is something being done to be sure other conferences know we would be very interested? Maybe work with the Montanas, SDSU and others to create a new FBS conference? Fans shouldn't have to call direct to get this info.
#1 MATT LARSON HAS NEVER EVER 1 TIME EVER EVEN PICKED UP A PHONE or EMAIL to Mountain West Commish Craig Thompson.
Think about that for 1 dam second. That should be a fireable offense.
#2 Money would be found if NDSU jumped up, You know it would, the fundraising at NDSU is D2 standards.
#3 Dean Bresciani is a Texas A M guy , he 58. What a perfect time in his life to take a risk and push the envelope. He's from the Big 12, he loves the attention Football has given him and NDSU.
#4 110-8 is NDSU record, 6-7 natl titles, Straight Domination of the FCS, heck NDSU SUBSIDIZES THE FCS and the MVFC!! Lets quit being whored out and make the money ourselves!!
Re: Wake up Bison Nation!
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Originally Posted by
bisonaudit
Has it occurred to you that perhaps not going FBS is NDSU’s President and AD being responsible to the taxpayers, students, Alumni and Teammakers concerns?
Maybe they should let everyone know if that is how they feel and explain the benefits and disadvantages of such a decision.
Re: Wake up Bison Nation!
If the FCS doesn't up its all-around competition, I would like to go FBS. yes, I'm aware of all of the reasons why we cannot. I'm just saying.
Also I'll still be at every game and I'll stay to the last play... I enjoy watching excellence
Re: Wake up Bison Nation!
If there was heavy alumni and TM desire to go FBS, it would happen.
It's only a few cranks on BV and FB whinging about "competition".
Re: Wake up Bison Nation!
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Originally Posted by
Bison 4 Life
If there were heavy alumni and TM desire to go FBS, it would happen.
It's only a few cranks on BV and FB whinging about "competition".
Ummmm.....no. The stands show it to.
If the all-around competition at the FCS raises, I have no problem staying at the FCS. I just don't see that happening; thus I would rather jump.
It would be nice if 50% of the teame we played could actually make it a game and or beat us versus only a few top caliber teams in the entire FCS having a shot.
I think NDSU help raise the bar in the FCS but I'm wondering if we pushed the other schools to the max.
Re: Wake up Bison Nation!
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Originally Posted by
SDbison
Maybe they should let everyone know if that is how they feel and explain the benefits and disadvantages of such a decision.
They have. More than once.
Re: Wake up Bison Nation!
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Originally Posted by
MAKBison
Ummmm.....no. The stands show it to.
If the all-around competition at the FCS raises, I have no problem staying at the FCS. I just don't see that happening; thus I would rather jump.
It would be nice if 50% of the teame we played could actually make it a game and or beat us versus only a few top caliber teams in the entire FCS having a shot.
I think NDSU help raise the bar in the FCS but I'm wondering if we pushed the other schools to the max.
The back of the napkin math says that NDSU averaged attendance of 18,296 which is 97% capacity.
Re: Wake up Bison Nation!
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Originally Posted by
Bison 4 Life
The back of the napkin math says that NDSU averaged attendance of 18,296 which is 97% capacity.
For what the first two quarters. Then it's a yawn Fest... And hey I'm not complaining about kicking ass.... I love it.
But, I also do think that not having competition will hurt the gate.
I guess from my perspective, I don't think that it's unreasonable to have the FBS / FCS jump debate.... There's a lot of good reasons on both sides that make the case
Re: Wake up Bison Nation!
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Originally Posted by
Professor Chaos
Another thing to keep in mind: NDSU's athletic budget isn't even in the top 10 of the FCS. They're not this much better than the rest of the subdivision because we're such great fans that support the program so well, they're there primarily because of superior talent and work ethic on the roster and coaching staff.
What they're doing isn't easy and they've gotten to where they are due in no small part to some good fortune. This program could just as easily be in the spot Montana (who has similar if not better funding and support) is at right now with the wrong hires on the coaching staff and some recruiting missteps and there's no guarantee that they won't hit that "floor" at some point in the future.
This is both true and false. True that we aren't in the top 10 budgets. But dont conflate that with Fan support. We are virtually first in revenue from ticket sales and individual donations (TM and such). The reason we aren't in the top 10 in budget is that we are literally in the bottom 5 in Student fees for athletics. If we were even the median for Student fees, we would almost be first in athletic budget.
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Originally Posted by
Vet70
Now that's a great idea. They don't seem to get the point that they can vent their spleen all they want and nothing is going to happen anytime soon. Small rant over, continue the pointless bitching.
gotta love people saying you cant have an opinion unless you're literally able to donate $100,000 at this precise moment. Isnt it funny how YOU havent donated $100,000 yet you are still able to have an opinion? Crazy isnt it? It's almost as if people cana have opinions without immense sums of disposable income!?! wuuuuuuUUUuUuUuUt?! Just because someone doesnt have money to personally fund an idea, does not mean its inherently a bad idea. And just because someone DOES have the money to fund something doesnt make it a good idea.
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Originally Posted by
Bison 4 Life
If there was heavy alumni and TM desire to go FBS, it would happen.
It's only a few cranks on BV and FB whinging about "competition".
Our TM funding is absolutely elite among the FCS. if other schools had requisite booster funding, many, if not most, would view it as "heavy alumni support for FBS"
Also, the entire empty sections for multiple consecutive games kind of indicate that piss pounding the living shit out of teams for nearly a decade is a an indictment on our competition, and is being VIEWED (incorrectly or not) as less entertaining/exciting.
I'm not saying that this means FBS NOW! But saying there isnt good or exceptional financial support for the team is false. Its also false to say that
if you cant fund FBS personally then it is automatically a bad idea. It may be a bad idea, but an individual's ability to fund it from his/her own bank account has nothing to do with the advantages or disadvantages of going FBS.
and lastly, its silly to believe that the majority of people are thrilled with the competition level on the field this year. To believe as much is to ignore reality, as well as the law of decreasing marginal utility.
Re: Wake up Bison Nation!
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Originally Posted by
MAKBison
Ummmm.....no. The stands show it to.
If the all-around competition at the FCS raises, I have no problem staying at the FCS. I just don't see that happening; thus I would rather jump.
It would be nice if 50% of the teame we played could actually make it a game and or beat us versus only a few top caliber teams in the entire FCS having a shot.
I think NDSU help raise the bar in the FCS but I'm wondering if we pushed the other schools to the max.
Would attendance be better if we were a bubble team in the playoffs?
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