Straight to the Big 12 or bust baby! Can I get a hell yeah Chapo?Quote:
Originally Posted by Professorbum
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Straight to the Big 12 or bust baby! Can I get a hell yeah Chapo?Quote:
Originally Posted by Professorbum
I don’t understand why you think the MW needs to be publicly announcing they’re looking at us months before there would be some sort of definitive announcement? There was 0 rumblings about UCLA, USC, OU, UT, JMU, the whole CUSA to SBC shakeup, etc. The days of months and years of courtship are over.Quote:
Originally Posted by taper
The MW keeps coming up because they conferences that slot over the top of them geographically (PAC and B12) are the most unstable P5 conferences, which has the highest chance of trickling down to affect them. On top of that, unlike the MAC, there are very few legitimate options for the MW to look to should they need to replace schools.
We’ve come up in a conversation during a presidents meeting about which schools could they be looking at (a very rare one-time look into their otherwise obviously private discussions). Do you really think the MW would come out and say “Hey yeah if any schools leave, we’re going to replace with NDSU”. Obviously not.
Well if MW doesn't work then we need to look at CUSA. I doubt MAC takes us, so I'd sure like the naysayers to tell us what path they want to FBS.Quote:
Originally Posted by Professorbum
Hard to say with all the dominoes yet to fall, but I don’t think NDSU was serious about FBS until very recently, and wanting it is the first step. But one thing is certain. When it happens, it’ll seem out of the blue. JMU’s open disdain for FCS was an anomaly. Most presidents/ADs keep their cards very close to their chest.
Listening to ML, geography isn’t the roadblock many on here want, and right now it seems all-sports is more likely than FB-only, which would mean that we’re not financially ready yet. BUT that could all change very quickly once the fate of the NCAA/FBS becomes clear. When the playoffs expand, and the G5 role in that playoff is set, things will start to pick up. We still don’t know what the FBS landscape of the future is, and it’s impossible to make predictions until we do.
But I will make one prediction – a move up to a higher division of CFB is highly likely for NDSU and only one CFB team from the great state of North Dakota will make the jump. The state already subsidizes the hockey school to "keep up", and that approach just won’t be sustainable at a higher level of competition. Nor would it make any sense. South Dakota is more of a puzzle to me …
How many times do I have to say I think the xDSU pair would be a good fit in the MAC before people stop saying I'm against an FBS move?Quote:
Originally Posted by Professorbum
I didn't say you were against all FBS moves. But the parameters for you are pretty narrow. That's totally fine. That's where you are at. But you have to admit, there has been about as much MAC movement as there has been MWC movement, i.e. none.Quote:
Originally Posted by taper
That's their modus operandi, pick a scenario that they know won't work for years to come.Quote:
Originally Posted by Professorbum
It is unfortunate that we still have to speculate about this. We don't definitively know if NDSU wants to move up because NDSU hasn't put anything out there publicly declaring so.Quote:
Originally Posted by WhoRepsTheLurker
The FBS at all cost folks want to paint anyone not looking for Indy or a trash move as "against" FBS, which is stupid.Quote:
Originally Posted by taper
Majority here want a sensible move. In practical terms, that likely means MAC or MWC.
They can't and they won't, for what should be obvious reasons ... so read the tea leavesQuote:
Originally Posted by Professorbum
FCS won't tolerate for very much longer what NDSU FB has become, and all indications are that NDSU FB has no intention of slowing down its ambitions
SDSU, MT State, MT ... none of those will move up without some "showcase" of FCS success
I'll let you do the math ...
This is exactly right.Quote:
Originally Posted by NDSU92
Conferences and schools don't spend a year campaigning or talking about this. It all happens behind closed doors.
Once pieces move and an opening occurs, then things can happen.
It very much looks like MWC could have an opening later this year. And there could even be trickle down elsewhere like AAC.
No more locked doors!
I think a regional rival (and a travel partner if it's all sports) is extremely important.Quote:
Originally Posted by taper
I think MAC might be a good home for us. Its at least as competitive as MVFC is, and they have an ESPN deal that gets televised.
MAC has also shown they are willing to expand, they recently offered WKU/MTSU as a pair to join.
There's only two questions I think:
Are we willing to commit to 15 years there? It won't be 3 or 4 years and an exit to a "better" conference. 15 years is a long time. We've only been FCS for 18 years.
Will our fans show up for Tuesday and Wednesday night games on MACtion? A lot of MAC stadiums have low attendance.
I just look at the tight grouping of MAC schools and I ask myself what president is going to sign off on adding NDSU and SDSU in all sports. It's almost completely a bus league as it currently sits. Could make an argument that it opens up their product to Minnesota/Dakotas/etc. But when they were looking to expand, they were looking at bus-distance schools to the south.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigHorns
Or as Lakes would say "MW BABY!!! WHETHER YOU'RE FLYING TO BOISE OR FARGO THERE'S NO EFFING DIFFERENCE BYAAAAAHHHH"
MAC and we riot bro.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigHorns
Gee, was JMU a "regional" rival? They sure were a rival but hardly "regional". It's possible to make any really competitive team a rival if they beat each other over the years.Quote:
Originally Posted by daddy daycare
Would be very beneficial to have a Day 1 natural rival though. And all sports invite is dead for us without sdsu or montanaQuote:
Originally Posted by NDSU1980
I don't get the whole Montana and/or Montana State as a partner. Sure we share a border but Bozeman and especially Missoula sure as fuck aren't bus rides.Quote:
Originally Posted by NDSU92
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They're closer than New Mexico or Laramie. But you're right, an all sports probably has to include SDSUQuote:
Originally Posted by oldmantutters
Does every team that plays in Laramie have to ride a bus from the Denver Airport? Pretty sure the recruits have to do that. Fuck that horse is scary eh.Quote:
Originally Posted by NDSU92
Lol...that rivalry doesn't even exist without the FCS playoff system. And SDSU is by far a bigger rival.Quote:
Originally Posted by NDSU1980
I'd rather lose to SDSU than JMU though.Quote:
Originally Posted by daddy daycare
True, but it still existed after it started. Now if we go FBS, all we have to do is get some team to Fargo and have them beat us by 10 points and trust me, they'll be a rival.Quote:
Originally Posted by daddy daycare
And I think JMU probably evoked far more fan passion and hatred then SDSU. I believe in the early FCS years SDSU was referred to by McFeely and a few others as a "manufactured" rivalry.
Not me. Only reason it sucked losing to JMU was it meant the season was over.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kevin
UNI evoked way more hatred than little brother did/does too.Quote:
Originally Posted by NDSU1980
Until they started outright sucking, that is.
Now they're irrelevant.
And they weren't even close to being considered a rival when we joined the MVFC. After we traded a few wins and loses plus a few arrogant fans like "Gotta Earn It" they became a pretty big rival. And as you pointed out they aren't all that much of rival now only because we beat them every time. About the time they became irrelevant we found JMUQuote:
Originally Posted by Kevin
Rivalries contingent on the other team being good, it probably wasn't a rivalry to begin with.
Ahem ahem. Thunderstruck Makers TM lays claim against the Fargo Forum and all insurance agencies behind that this statement is a grave slander against the thunderstruck makers intellectual property.Quote:
Originally Posted by EC8CH
You have been served.
Big 12 or bust babe. Big twelve or bust.
(I still have this authority right Loaf?)
I knew the “farmowners” would end up funding the fucking transition.
F-UN_
And fuck you McFeely.
You shoulda went to NDSU. [emoji6]
Ever since Bradley nodded. He never said it. But at football camp when the assistants talked about the forum having it in for NDSU….
I started planning. It’s taken a while. But I’ve finally done it.
Glad to see chubs most recent stint in rehab was a success.
Fucking quitterQuote:
Originally Posted by Kevin
Loaf? Loaf?
Call me on my private line.
These ForumComm guys work fast…
Maybe a little too fast. [emoji6]
L.o.l.
Hey man. Save the barbs. I’m already dying over here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kevin
Just trying out some new material.
But I hope Cas would take a look at the “claim”. That ThunderStruck Makers TM just made against a public forumcomm employee and their possible insurance for slander liability. Particularly in the light of some concepts being proposed by David White in his address at Utah which may be YouTube’s
Concerning these types of claims liabilities and how they have been paying insurance for a LONG TIM for a big claim just. Like. This.
A humorously proposed gigantic lawsuit against some gigantic insurance company in maybe England or something.
And they just have to pay it. And nobody gets hurt. Like a funny college prank.
And this time we show them who the fucking cow college is bro.
I should know. I ducked most of their cheerleaders.
I tried to tell cas about this years ago. But you know how he is.
Sensitive about those jeans or whatever I guess. Just kidding. I never met most of you guys.
And to settle the dick measuring contest between Kevin and Mike.
Yes mike is smarter. He simply says dumber shit.
MYSTERY SOLVED DUDES!
When he shuts up it’s because he is smart enough to be considering this.
I win.
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