There is no upside to be had by just getting bigger..The rivalries are the best part of the MW by far. It extends to the other sports as well..
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There is no upside to be had by just getting bigger..The rivalries are the best part of the MW by far. It extends to the other sports as well..
Thats what the Big Ten said and then they added Penn State and Nebraska. Everyone is excited to play those teams who had no rivalriesQuote:
Originally Posted by MWC
Not saying the MWC will ever get teams like that but the reality is fans want to watch good games. Almost every conference has great rivalries. The Missouri Valley has 4 teams in North and South Dakota all along the interstate
You are correct..The MW won't be adding any schools like Nebraska and Penn State. It is unlikely they will be adding anyone unless they lose 4 or more schools. The league played with 8 members before. The MW will be fine..
Talking Bison on Dan Patrick... Pauly thinks we should make a move to BIG 10. Would take us over Rutgers he said.
8 teams is the bare minimum to even exist. For a few years, teams will get a larger piece of the pot until they are up for renegotiating. If you lose 4 teams it will probably be 1 or 2 Cali teams and any combination of Boise, Colorado State and Utah state. Suddenly that TV contract is as valuable as Conference USA.Quote:
Originally Posted by MWC
Too bad he couldn’t have done us a solid and given a more realistic conference like the MW to advocate for. No way Big Ten will happen ever ( mainly because we are not a P2 school or AAU)! A depleted Big 12 is the only somewhat realistic pipe dream.Quote:
Originally Posted by BISONBRI53
Oh what could have been had the Dakotas done the right thing and had one main state school each. Probably could've been in the Big 8 back in the day.Quote:
Originally Posted by B.Schlossman Fan Club
I do not think they will lose 4 schools. P5 conferences are not clamoring to add a bunch of MW schools. The very large exit fees puts a severe damper on schools going to some other G5 conference.Quote:
Originally Posted by HerdBot
I think SDSU is very attractive and will get P5. Other schools, not so much. 12 is not the golden number. 10 works. 9 is the absolute perfect size for football. 8 game schedule, 4 on the road,4 at home true round robin.
11 schools is awkward but workable. No need to get to 12..
I know some here are hoping the MW gets gutted so they have to come begging for schools to join..That just seems wildly unlikely.
Be careful what you wish for. They would without any doubt have picked UND to be the flagship. In that case UND is probably still D2 because only hockey matters.Quote:
Originally Posted by ByeSonBusiness
Um ... TWSS?Quote:
Originally Posted by MWC
A single university North Dakota would be very different because that single school wouldn't be on the Red River is my guess. (Not in Grand Forks and the Warroad/Roseau hockey influence never materializes.)Quote:
Originally Posted by taper
That might have been great for sports but I think that the original disbursement of higher education has, over time, provided the state with an uncommon legacy of smartness throughout a deeply rural part of the country. Even though the model doesn't necessarily fit with a 2022 world, that disbursement was visionary before having cars was common.Quote:
Originally Posted by ByeSonBusiness
Colorado State and a rivalry with Colorado has appeal. They suck now but if they can get Pac12/Big 12 moneyQuote:
Originally Posted by MWC
P5 expansion has little to do with rivalries.
Of course und would still be D2. They had a whole bunch of narrow mined people in administration as well as a few fans that were "D2 Forever". Those people today look like complete idiots for holding UND back when they should have moved up a lot sooner. It's too bad NDSU has the same problem with certain people today using the same argument. You might know some of those people. But then maybe you don't recognize them.Quote:
Originally Posted by taper
I had hoped we were past this, but for millionth time, this fabled FCS Forever cabal Does. Not. Exist. Don't hide behind allegories, if you think I'm FCS Forever not only have you not read my posts but you have little to no understanding of the college athletics landscape. Trying to understand the reasons no FBS conference has looked at us in no way means I'm opposed to a jump.Quote:
Originally Posted by NDSU1980
You've made it very clear the MW is unlikely to add any schools from your viewpoint. I am curious why you're so engaged in this discussion then? It seems odd how much time you've spent reading and responding to posts about a school that, in your view, will most likely never even be in your conference.Quote:
Originally Posted by MWC
Boredom..This is the realignment season on message boards..I am interested in the NDSU story, though
https://www.espn.com/college-footbal...rators-respond
Still a ton up in the air. The only real consensus in this survey is that some portion of FBS will split from the NCAA. All of it or just the P2 looks about 50/50. There also seems to be the opinion that D1 CFB needs it’s own boss. Guessing that excludes FCS
https://www.espn.com/college-footbal...tentially-2025
Funny how this guy flipped his script …
Bingo....FCS Forever label comes out when people are looking for the right fit, not just jump at the first whore that takes NDSU.Quote:
Originally Posted by taper
Relax.
Patty has the wheel.
https://www.chicagonow.com/prairie-s...ate-landscape/Quote:
Given the uncertainty of collegiate football as the FBS appears to be headed toward mega conferences, where do teams at the FCS level fit in?
“I think that is a league-wide discussion that will ultimately be decided by (university) presidents,” Viverito said. ...
“ ... I intend to meet with every coach, every AD and every president over the course of this fall,” she said. “As things unfold nationally, I think we have to have a game plan in place for how we will fit into whatever landscape develops.
“To me, the key to success across the entire division is that we maintain our ties to the highest level of Division I football. And that’s for the good of the game.”
Of course she’s going to say something along those lines. She’s a conference commissioner. Her job is to run a conference. To do that the conference has to continue to succeed/exist.Quote:
Originally Posted by The_Sicatoka
Has next to nothing to do with what is ultimately best for NDSU or what decision we will make.
She's awful. we got rid of dufus Dupul in the summit. let's drop this bitch
If only we could convince the conference to hire a commissioner who would only say things in the media that were obviously in the best interest of only one member school that would be great. Bonus points if they post bible verses on their YouTube account and have a penis.Quote:
Originally Posted by El_Chapo
Could we get Josh Fenton to oversee the MVFC also?
He knows at least three Summit schools well from his time as NCHC commissioner (UND, DU, UNO).
He's a quick study and will know the rest of the Summit in no time.
He did great things for the NCHC (media) and will do that for the Summit.
Use those abilities for the MVFC.
What's wrong with her?Quote:
Originally Posted by El_Chapo
Very on-brand for a UND guy to want to hire internally! ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by The_Sicatoka
Well, the Summit hired him away from the NCHC. That'd be "internal" for DU and UNO also.Quote:
Originally Posted by ByeSonBusiness
Neither of whom are MVFC!Quote:
Originally Posted by The_Sicatoka
I'm sure the guy is good at his job.
fwiw ...
https://theanalyst.com/na/2022/08/na...season-top-25/
https://twitter.com/FCS_STATS/status...55451449729029
"National Champ North Dakota State an Overwhelming No. 1 in Stats Perform FCS Preseason Top 25"
Twitter comment: "NDSU is killing FCS football"
Western Carolina fan.Quote:
Originally Posted by WhoRepsTheLurker
Like they’d win it all if we left … lol.
Saw that too... WCU wussed out of a game with NDSU... and therefore deserve no respect.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigHorns
If WCU isn't happy about Bison dominance, then become more competitive... or move to the NAIA where they truly belong
Or NDSU could move up to where it really belongs ;) Seriously though, I had no idea who the Catamounts wereQuote:
Originally Posted by NovaBison
Some interesting names in that top 25. "Only" 5 Valley teams. Big Sky well represented with 6
Sam Houstons sam keeler
-Recruiting has had a huge bump since FBS move
Great discussion on DP right now. Just had Sankey on. This is a long way off from becoming clear, but there will be massive change I think
Cool man, let's just make sure NDSU has a ticket on the train when it leaves the station...Quote:
Originally Posted by WhoRepsTheLurker
There certainly seems to be an air of finality to these rumors. There will be the adult table and the kids table and I would guess it will be very hard to move between the two of them after whatever split happens.
No doubtQuote:
Originally Posted by NDSU92
This is my biggest fear, but I'm going to give ML and DC the benefit of the doubt. I sincerely hope I am not wrong
My gut tells me that the number of current FCS teams that end up at the adult table will be less than 5
Not that it matters, but DP et al refer to FCS as D2, which is what it will become effectively after things shake out
National guys think (as I've said) "Power2 or other".Quote:
Originally Posted by WhoRepsTheLurker
FCS + G5 + P3 in one group? I call BSQuote:
Originally Posted by The_Sicatoka
No offense, but I doubt your favorite team makes the cut. Nor should you, as a hockey school
I think he means there is going to be "P2" and "afterthought" as the two categories into which schools get sorted by the national media. There will still be subdivisions at the D1 level. None of it will matter to Disney, Fox, CBS or NBC.Quote:
Originally Posted by WhoRepsTheLurker