Georgia Southern is BOWL eligible! ! 6-2. Wow sorry if someone mentioned it I got no service in the middle of d2 south dakota
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Georgia Southern is BOWL eligible! ! 6-2. Wow sorry if someone mentioned it I got no service in the middle of d2 south dakota
not til 2015. actually they could be selected for a bowl if some teams dont qualify.Quote:
Originally Posted by El_Chapo
Nope not D2 mentality, but whats the flavor of the week going to be this week...we've seen poor competition, we've seen look at how many wins we have, we've seen this town is crappy, we've seen look at the population. But what we haven't seen is an invitation from an FBS league. Now your shitting on another school because they moved up and aren't supporting their team. I mean they could be like another school in the area that's supporting their FB but still sucking.Quote:
Originally Posted by Strongman
You guys seem to have all the answers but your gums flap and your hot air fills the blimp but you ain't got not action, and all you do is piss on people that disagree with you.
Just as much a chance of that as when captain hot air above you tried suggesting that the 11-1 team should go to a bowl game because we weren't FCS playoff eligible. Why would any bowl pick a sun belt team over a 6 win team from ANY other conference.Quote:
Originally Posted by ndsubison1
when did this change?Quote:
Originally Posted by ndsubison1
IIRC Marshall won a national title and then the very next year played in the Motor City Bowl.
My take is that right now we aren't FBS. We might be FBS in the future but until that happens, I'm gonna cheer and support my ass off. If we happen to beat some "lesser" program comparable to Morningside by 40+ and we become the centuple squad, I will be happy and continue to support and cheer my ass off. And guess what? If we do move to the FBS and either never win a game, make the Beef O'Brady Bowl, or make the playoffs, I'm still going to support and cheer my ass off for this Bison team.
I'd hope others would do the same.
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I believe it came with the 2012 changes. They also won the MAC that season as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by natstar1
My take is... It's boring watching us play these teams.Quote:
Originally Posted by bisonpride4ever
PS. If Georgia Southern or App can play FBS
..ndsu can too. Who cares about championships if you are beating up on Little Sisters of the Poor?
Move up. I don't care how.... Find a way. This is boring to say the least. Pump up the valley all you guys want but it sucks and the lack of playoff success outside of Fargo tells us all we need to know
I'm all for moving up as anybody else whom is for it. I would absolutely love it. But right now we haven't. So until they actually move up, I'm going to enjoy watching the Bison beat the little sisters of the poor. Until they move up, what other choice does the team have? Until the Prez has a press conference saying NDSU is moving to the FBS, they just have to keep doing what they are doing and that's winning....no matter how boring it might be. I suppose they could just drop the program until they join FBS but then that actually would be boring.Quote:
Originally Posted by 344Johnson
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Marshall is ranked #23 for God's sake.. NDSU is just as good as Marshall. The invitation to a FBS conference has to be solicited by Dean Bresciani & NDSU admin...it should be sending tapes & information weekly about our dominance & atmosphere & how a conference would benefit by having a program like NDSU!
not sure but now its two years of transition to FBSQuote:
Originally Posted by natstar1
1st public talking point about more seats being added is a clear FBS need for instant action.
New stadium is priority 1 for FBS we talking 42,000 seats. That's all.we need
The City of Fargo won't spend a dime on a new stadium. In case you missed it in the article by Tran, any new seats for football in the Dome will be paid for by NDSU and not the City (that's what the comment about revising the lease with NDSU means).
That's fine even though the city of fargo HAS TAKEN OVER BOTH ESPN GAMEDAYS & have made MILLIONS off NDSU & it's noteriety
There is truth in this statement.Quote:
Originally Posted by El_Chapo
And water is wet, the Sky is blue, and grass is green. So what?Quote:
Originally Posted by El_Chapo
This Sun Belt team is an up and coming program in FBS that has a fan base excited about the opportunity to play in a bowl game. GSU would likely bring a large following (ticket sales!!) to the game and make it seem as though their bowl game actually means something.Quote:
Originally Posted by missingnumber7
A 6 win team from the other conferences that places 4th or lower in their conference brings little fanfare at all.
You don't understand the exception. GSU can ONLY be selected if there aren't enough 6 win teams to fill the Bowls. ANY team with 6 wins must be selected before GSU this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by BraxtonT
The 10th place SEC team would outdraw them in heartbeat, plus you are talking about advertising revenue, and TV ratings. GSU means something to people here, means little if anything to FBS folks. Its a money thing and the P5 conferences have a lot more pull when getting schools into bowl games than the belt does.Quote:
Originally Posted by BraxtonT
Last year:
Belt had 2 bowl teams with 7 eligible teams.
8-4 WKU didn't get a game (WKU has just as much history and following as GSU if not more)
Sorry, I was answering the question as it was. I understand this year's rules going against them. I read the question as if it were in the future when GSU is fully bowl eligible.Quote:
Originally Posted by NorthernBison
You didn't say it would be an SEC team. You stated a "6 win team from ANY other conference", so I took that as possibly Akron at 6-6 or Texas State at 6-6 being the other schools they would be pitted against for selection.Quote:
Originally Posted by missingnumber7
Also, the "10th place SEC team"? The conference is the best, but it would be tough for the 10th best to get to 6 wins.
For discussion sake only, how many fans would Vanderbilt at 6-6 send to a bowl game over 1000 miles away from campus? How many would a first time bowl-going GSU send?
Interesting article in paper today about expansion for FargoDome for NDSU Bison games. It appears 500 to 1000 more seats is very possible with moving the press boxes, etc. I thought it was really odd about throwing around 5000 and 7500 seats with structural modifications. Unless NDSU was planning to move up, it would not seem feasible financially to do that. I guess it could be mere happenstance. But perhaps NDSU, behind the scenes, it actively looking to move up for football after we Quad. And expansion to the dome is a part of that.
A 24,000 seat FargoDome would work for any one of the non Big Five conferences. Perhaps, not ideal, but as mentioned before we could be the Duke or Fenway of College Football. :)
And let me clarify the aforementioned. It just seemed really odd that they would throw around adding 5000 or 7500 seats unless they had some preliminary discussions or professional estimates that it could be done without tearing the roof off. That is what I meant.
This isnt new. But as some one already said---this sound bite has more to do with the proposed convention center.Quote:
Originally Posted by Strongman
Throwing about the 5000 to 7500 seats with structural modification is though. The chatter has always been to add a few 100 seats here or there. It does not make sense to throw out those numbers unless they preliminarily believe it could be done.
No the chatter hasnt always been about 100 seats here or there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Strongman
Many have known about the research on the feasibility to add seats. History has shown you can build anything you want. All it costs is money----BUT--The ROI wasnt deemed viable at that time. This information has been posted here numerous times.
McFeely wrote a blog about exactly that in February. Piepkorn and the Engineering people discussing it threw out cost estimates of $125 Million to maybe $150 Million for adding a second deck that would add that many seats.Quote:
Originally Posted by Strongman
I just saw online that it was estimated at $35 million for 5000 seat expansion. $150 million is obviously absurd and unrealistic. (35 million might be too.) Why would they even talk to media about expansion if it is $150 million?
A link would be nice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Strongman
Adding that many seats means raising the roof and adding a second deck. That means the main support posts need to be moved to the outside of the building and it's close to starting over. I'd say it would cost way more than $35 Million. Whether it would cost $125-150 is debatable. The REASON it is discussed is because the ONLY WAY the City of Fargo/Dome Authority gets involved in adding football seats anywhere is if they are in the Fargodome. NEW STADIUM = 100% NDSU financing and that isn't likely to happen for a very very very long time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Strongman
It doesn't sound like the FargoDome Authority is particularly stoked about even this expansion. I think they're entertaining it as a way to secure the convention space expansion at the FargoDome rather than downtown.Quote:
Originally Posted by NorthernBison
Exactamundo.Quote:
Originally Posted by bisonaudit
Seems weird that it comes up now after a bunch of back and forth about the convention center. Really not sure how FD insinuating that they're going to do an expansion for NDSU really changes the convention center for downtown Fargo's mind at all really though? I agree it must somehow be targeted at that group though for whatever reason?Quote:
Originally Posted by bisonaudit
Again even $35,000,000 (if accurate for whatever plan they have? not sure its best for NDSU??) for 5000 seats is a bit steep, need a return of $7000 per a seat to make it "worthwhile". Just don't see that happening, and the fact NDSU would be on the hook for most of it seemingly?? Why they would spend that much per a seat? Which would eliminate the $35 million for a future stadium? All dependent on what NDSUs longterm goal is? If they plan on using fargodome for the next 30+ years (seems unlikely?). Then I could see it.
NDSU is a pretty big tenant for the FargoDome Authority and by extension the City of Fargo. If they're on the fence about where to put the convention center (they're going to spend the money one way or the other) and if they're even a little bit afraid that NDSU could go it alone on a stadium and NDSU is willing to kick in a substantially all of money of football arena piece of this proposal it MAY be worth it to them in order to secure NDSU's business. And it may be attractive to NDSU because it would eliminate the risk of not being able to raise whatever they'd need to raise to go solo on a football stadium.Quote:
Originally Posted by 1998braves64
Or the whole thing could fall apart tomorrow.
So what you're saying is if you build the convention center downtown we want to be able to add on to the dome and if NDSU decides to kick in some money add seats for them without any big hassles from the City type deal? That makes more sense compared to the way I was thinking.Quote:
Originally Posted by bisonaudit
I think if the convention center goes downtown a football expansion is probably off the table. If the convention center gets located at the FargoDome then you've got the makings of a deal between the FargoDome Authority and NDSU for a football expansion and other corresponding updates to the press and premium seating areas largely on NDSU's dime, plus ye olde skybar in the south endzone, complete w/ Kolpack's bathroom.Quote:
Originally Posted by 1998braves64
Why not supply a link so we can all read about it? But as has been discussed before they have known that it would be more cost effective to build a new stadium than having to do substantial renovations for additional seating.Quote:
Originally Posted by Strongman
I will look forward to the link on the above online information.
I think this is very plausible.Quote:
Originally Posted by bisonaudit
Everything that was brought forward and then questioned was just verified in that interview.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bison"FANatic"
Could not play link. Even at $35 million, it would roughly 13 to 15 years, best case scenario to recoup that--even with kick ass concessions and merchandise. (And assuming 100% sell outs, etc. ) (More likely 20 years.) Hence, does not seem viable. Only feasible financial thing they can do, is tinker with seating and maybe add 500 to 1000 seats. Or build a brand new stadium.
A 20,000 seat stadium would not be ideal, but would work for a non Big Five conference.