Re: A new and better FBS thread
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HerdBot
If the G6 could get that many invites, I might change my tune on a bad conference
In practice, it would mean 2 bids going to PAC and AAC most years, as things stand now. CFP committee is stacked for P4.
Even this is unlikely, most believe this is a stalking horse type thing, meant to make a 16 bid proposal, with 12-14 autobids for P4, and 1 for G6 look "reasonable." Under the new CFP contract, the P4 conferences have voting power to decide the outcome of structure.
Even if it passed, 24 permanent autobids for P4 is ludicrous. All of this is meant to marginalize G6 imo, prior to an eventual split.
Re: A new and better FBS thread
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BigHorns
In practice, it would mean 2 bids going to PAC and AAC most years, as things stand now. CFP committee is stacked for P4.
Even this is unlikely, most believe this is a stalking horse type thing, meant to make a 16 bid proposal, with 12-14 autobids for P4, and 1 for G6 look "reasonable." Under the new CFP contract, the P4 conferences have voting power to decide the outcome of structure.
Even if it passed, 24 permanent autobids for P4 is ludicrous. All of this is meant to marginalize G6 imo, prior to an eventual split.
Most years it would be the American but the Pac/MW would split if the MW can bolster the conference
I wish they would just give everyone an auto bid and give al
the p4 all the at large bids
Have a 1st round playoff where the G6 plays each other, mix and match
mac plays the pac
American plays the Sunbelt
MW plays CUSA
First round games are more competitive. Give the P4 a bye. Then we're down to 3 G6 schools in round 2 where they get tougher
Re: A new and better FBS thread
Re: A new and better FBS thread
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KSBisonFan
Feels like some within the MW are ready to slowly start putting nuggets out regarding FCS "callups", maybe intentionally to warm the waters or maybe just because they are all internally starting to have more discussions of it being a real possibility, so those topics start to make their way into interviews.
Also, his comments were around this phantom split that some think is coming sooner than others.
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It's a foregone conclusion that UNLV is going to leave the MWC as they have publicly stated their desire to get into a P4 league. It ain't happening though so getting into the PAC is the most likely backup plan once they and AFA collect their blood money. The point is it makes sense for the leftovers to start planning now and grooming the XDSU's and Montana schools makes the most sense.
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In order to receive their percentage of the exit and poaching fees all the MW schools had to sign a grant of media rights through 2032. If a MW school is invited to a P4 conference the league will waive the GOR for that particular school. The GOR would still be in effect if they chose to leave for the Pac or any other G6 conference before July of 32.
The GOR begins July 1 2026. If say UNLV decides to leave before then, they would forfeit 24.5 percent of whatever money the MW receives from the exit and poaching fees. Plus they would be on the hook for exit fees themselves. It seems unlikely that any school will leave for another G6. I don't anticipate any school getting an invite from a P4. I expect the the membership that is in place by June 30, 2026 will remain the same until July 1 2032.
I agree that the MW should and is already planning and grooming for possible future members. At this time, it seems to hinge on what the media providers are offering and if they are willing to pay for any additions as well.
The MW should know sometime soon as they are fixing to announce their new media deals anytime now. I do not think the MW is against adding but money talks. No school in the conference will want to reduce their own share of the pie to get more members.
Re: A new and better FBS thread
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TAILG8R
Feels like some within the MW are ready to slowly start putting nuggets out regarding FCS "callups", maybe intentionally to warm the waters or maybe just because they are all internally starting to have more discussions of it being a real possibility, so those topics start to make their way into interviews.
Also, his comments were around this phantom split that some think is coming sooner than others.
I wonder if the Wyoming AD just sees the writing on the wall with some of the recent P4 scheduling announcements and CFP revising the strength of schedule criteria. With the SEC and AAC moving to a nine-game conference schedule and the SEC heightening its OOC requirements, G6 access to P4 games is going to dry up, along with the payouts that go with those games. If media rights payouts weren't enough of a phantom split, conference-driven scheduling requirements will surely add to the phantom split perception.
Wyoming is also probably the biggest loser in the PAC | MWC breakup. They care about football, have good fan support, and at some point are going to get left in a conference without UNLV and Air Force while losing all their regional rivalries in the process. I would be looking at the FCS Big 4 too; it's their best case for a conference that somewhat resembles what they had pre-divorce.
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By far the biggest losers in Pac/MW breakup is Oregon State and Washington State. The drop down from the Pac 12 to just another G6 is massive. I think the Pac and the MW will remain stable for the next 5 or 6 years because none of these schools are even on the radar for a P4 invitation.
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I wasn't counting OSU and WSU. I see them as victims of the PAC breakup not the MWC breakup, but agree they got it worse than anyone. Also agree it will be a few years before UNLV and Air Force exit, but they won't go P4. UNLV will get Pac-12 invite Air Force could get an AC invite.
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