A new and better FBS thread

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Originally Posted by MWC

This makes me wonder why anybody here wants any part of the MW. You are very football centric.

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Because have you seen what's left of the FCS?

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Originally Posted by EC8CH

Because have you seen what's left of the FCS?

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I understand wanting to move to FBS but why the MW. It seems to me that many of you don't think it is much of a conference.

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Originally Posted by HerdBot

NDSU used to be in the Great West Football Conference with UC Davis when we both moved up to D1 together so I'm more familiar with them than the average Joe. Even made a trip out there in our early D1 days. We played some good games

I don't think UC Davis has any extra money to move up or build a new stadium. People see their huge budget and think they are loaded. Reality is they are so tight on money, they basically only recruit in state kids.

Why? Because 1 out of state recruit costs nearly $75k per year. That would wipe out their athletic budget and endowment. Even recruiting in state kids still costs 45k a year. Basically donations don't go very far because boosters use their money to pay scholarships

Just to add 44 more in state scholarships to be Title 9 compliant would cost them 2 million bucks a year

Their funding for athletic department is complicated being in California

Up until this year, they couldnt even pay for lights for their baseball and soccer field which seems absurd. It wasn't surprising to me they opted out of the House settlement

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I don't see why they needed lights....they didn't even play games at night.

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Originally Posted by MWC

I understand wanting to move to FBS but why the MW. It seems to me that many of you don't think it is much of a conference.

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It's better than the FCS and still compelling from my POV. Yes, the losses hurt but I think most NDSU fans would be much more interested in the new MW than Indiana State, etc. I really don't see CFP happening.

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Originally Posted by Gully

I don't see why they needed lights....they didn't even play games at night.

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Extreme daytime heat kept everyone away, including opponents

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Originally Posted by Gully

I don't see why they needed lights....they didn't even play games at night.

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When the bar closes, sometimes going home with the fat chick is the only option

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Originally Posted by Gully

It's better than the FCS and still compelling from my POV. Yes, the losses hurt but I think most NDSU fans would be much more interested in the new MW than Indiana State, etc. I really don't see CFP happening.

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Wow, 'it's better than FCS" is a ringing endorsement of the MW. I have seen folks describe the MW as weak. I have seen a poster here hoping the MW gets hosed by the Pac lawsuits and loses members. I have seen posters here ridicule some MW members. I don't see anybody here have anything good to say about the MW or the members. I ask again, why the MW?

Better than FCS is not the answer. You should actually want to play the schools in any new conference you join but I suspect you would all be holding your nose if you got stuck with the MW. I think it is a fun conference with good rivalries and great road trips.

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Originally Posted by MWC

I understand wanting to move to FBS but why the MW. It seems to me that many of you don't think it is much of a conference.

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Today with Boise and the current lineup it's arguably the best G5. That's why Boise made the playoff. In 2 years after the defections, it's lost some strength that knocks it down a notch. That's undeniable and not a criticism of the MW. It is what it is

It needs to make the right moves so it can stay competitive. NIU was a good start. UTEP was a market decision. Not a bad addition but nothing that moves the needle either. Top notch FCS programs actually make the conference better


Would we roll through the conference? Probably not immediately because we currently have 22 less scholarships so late season depth could take it's tolll and we are a developmental program who rarely takes transfers or plays freshman. I think within 3 years we have the potential to dominate

The only examples I can think of was Marshall dominating the MAC immediately. James Madison has been successful immediately, winning the Sunbelt east.

Bison fans just want good games and going FBS makes that happen. But we also don't want to go to CUSA and play on Tuesday either for a smaller payout

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Originally Posted by MWC

Wow, 'it's better than FCS" is a ringing endorsement of the MW. I have seen folks describe the MW as weak. I have seen a poster here hoping the MW gets hosed by the Pac lawsuits and loses members. I have seen posters here ridicule some MW members. I don't see anybody here have anything good to say about the MW or the members. I ask again, why the MW?

Better than FCS is not the answer. You should actually want to play the schools in any new conference you join but I suspect you would all be holding your nose if you got stuck with the MW. I think it is a fun conference with good rivalries and great road trips.

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You misunderstand.

I do actually want NDSU to play schools in the MW and I think the road trips would be great. Much better than what we have in the FCS / Valley.

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Originally Posted by HerdBot

Extreme daytime heat kept everyone away, including opponents

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Umm, I was making a joke.