A new and better FBS thread

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Originally Posted by BigHorns

Rutgers and Maryland were added primarily for their television media markets. Suspect the same is true for others like Minnesota and Northwestern as well.

B1G media payout got boosted significantly with the addition of Rutgers. Has as much to do with carriage rights, and advertising as it does actual viewership boost. I don't think many of these schools will be booted. It all rotates around what maximizes media payout.

The system is a bit broken in that regard, but for the larger (P4) conferences, simply being able to state they have a school located within a specific market DMA can significantly change the media payout for all members. This is what made UCLA attractive to P2/4, for instance, but not Washington St. For the smaller G6 conferences, they tend to focus on regional rivalries and reducing travel costs. That is largely what motivated SBC to add Louisiana Tech, even though they have another member in the same region/market.

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Minnesota and Northwestern were added YEARS ago before TV was a thing. But youre on the money about about MA and Rutgers. Its also about footprint.

Both Minnesota and Northwestern are founding members of the B10, in 1896.


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Originally Posted by cobbison

Both Minnesota and Northwestern are founding members of the B10, in 1896.


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Hadn't looked at that aspect, but makes it even less likely they are ever booted.

Their location/market DMAs also strengthen that. It won't matter if they have 3-9, 4-8 type seasons for 5 years really. And at 0.500 or above they are a lock to stay.

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Originally Posted by cobbison

Both Minnesota and Northwestern are founding members of the B10, in 1896.
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Some folks didn't even have cable at the time.

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Originally Posted by NI4NI

Some folks didn't even have cable at the time.

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Right, but overall your "build a bridge" bet might not pan out.

Those in P2 will likely remain so, regardless of on field performance. Other factors matter more.

We like to think college football should be a meritocracy, and it simply isn't.

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Originally Posted by 56BISON73

Minnesota and Northwestern were added YEARS ago before TV was a thing. But youre on the money about about MA and Rutgers. Its also about footprint.

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Even ignoring history and academics, the money the B1G would lose by kicking out half the conference is nuts lol.

Something tells me our boy just looked at last year's standings or something. He included several core members with generally pretty good football programs.

You don't add or remove teams because they aren't very good at football today.

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Originally Posted by BigHorns

We like to think college football should be a meritocracy, and it simply isn't.

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You're correct, I easily slip into merit based mentality.

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Originally Posted by NI4NI

Some folks didn't even have cable at the time.

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My dad grew up in North Dakota and had never seen a football game until his Army unit did something at the Cotton Bowl back in the 1950s.

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Originally Posted by NI4NI

Who here believes that Rutgers, Maryland, Purdue, Minnesoda, Wisconsin, Iowa, Mich St, Northwestern, Illinois & Nebraska are all still in the Big Ten in five years?
If you don't see them turning on the weak among them I will build a bridge & sell it to you.

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Reminder that the academic Big Ten dwarfs the athletic Big Ten.

Wisconsin and Iowa are arguably Top-5 Big Ten programs over the last 25 years. The 'weak' schools you must have picked out of a hat combine for almost as many national titles as NDSU, which you may have heard is quite a few.

Iowa??? top 5???
nope