A new and better FBS thread

Matt gets a lot of blame but in my opinion Bresciani basically handcuffed him during the peak of our run, not only by being against the move but also by actively running the school into the ground at the same time. Matt is an easy scapegoat but his work with facilities and raising money has put us on a solid ground despite having a shit president until Cook took over.

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Originally Posted by Professor Chaos

Their President is out there making (and quickly deleting) comments about how they'd put up 50 points on South Dakota (link) after calling the FCS JV level football over the course of the last few months.

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Sac State made their version of Lakes the school president.

https://herosports.com/fcs-plot-twis...pendence-ksks/

This article talks about some dominoes yet to fall in the FCS. TX schools mentioned as going to the ASUN.

I say we go independent FCS with a scheduling philosophy around taking on contenders. Frame ourselves as the giant who can't be toppled and like a carnival barker shouting from his tent ask who is brave enough to fight the champ! Sort of like we are forever the FCS Champion and every other program can prove themselves by beating the champ. Like a boss level in a video game.


Which after I type that out is pretty much the reality we already live in.

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Originally Posted by NDSU1980

I'd like to know what Matt has done to get us even one inch closer to going FBS? Looks like he should have pursued the CUSA possibility when we had the chance. Instead Larsen acted like CUSA was beneath us.

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The one article and chatter about CUSA is interesting, and I agree with bighorn, I’m not sure it was a firm offer. Also, in context, times were different. Conferences were still very much regional and the CUSA footprint didn’t make a ton of sense.

But more to the point of your answer, you’d “like to know what Matt has done to get us even one inch closer to going FBS…”

It’s an interesting admission on your part. You don’t know. I don’t either. But you’re assuming that he’s done nothing because we’re not going FBS. Does Matt owe you an explanation of all his actions to position us for FBS? I think it’s very obvious based on his comments over the last couple years that he is actively positioning NDSU as the best FCS candidate for a move to the MW, or other less-geographically-desirable FBS conferences.

You are saying the complete opposite, and the answer you’re giving is “I don’t know.” Stop drawing conclusions from a lack of knowledge.

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Originally Posted by TAILG8R

I say we go independent FCS with a scheduling philosophy around taking on contenders. Frame ourselves as the giant who can't be toppled and like a carnival barker shouting from his tent ask who is brave enough to fight the champ! Sort of like we are forever the FCS Champion and every other program can prove themselves by beating the champ. Like a boss level in a video game.


Which after I type that out is pretty much the reality we already live in.

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Lol. I agree with your reassessment. We are the boss of the FCS level Nintendo game. Our conference affiliation (or lack thereof) doesn’t really change that.

Maybe Matt would have wanted to explore CUSA, but if the president doesn't even want to go FBS what is the point? That was where we were at that time.

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Originally Posted by WhoRepsTheLurker

If you actually read and listen to the reporting, ML is pissed off because NDSU's collective dwarfs anything that our peers have, and that advantage would be blunted through opting in. However, I have no doubt he will do what it takes to go FBS. Please forgive me for being an optimist lol

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Outside collectives are still allowed under the settlement. Nothing is stopping anyone's existing collectives to continue to operate as is. Unless you think athletes are getting above fair market value, it's pay for play and deals won't stand up to ask independent review. Then you might have a valid concern.

Roster limits would be the actual valid concern, which hurts walk-ons. I believe they are looking at being grandfathered and then reduced over time but I have not seen the most recent interpretations.

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Originally Posted by abc123

Outside collectives are still allowed under the settlement. Nothing is stopping anyone's existing collectives to continue to operate as is. Unless you think athletes are getting above fair market value, it's pay for play and deals won't stand up to ask independent review. Then you might have a valid concern.

Roster limits would be the actual valid concern, which hurts walk-ons. I believe they are looking at being grandfathered and then reduced over time but I have not seen the most recent interpretations.

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I’m just reporting what I read, bro, and it was directed at NDSU fans not you. Hopefully we’ll be in different subdivisions soon, and then we’ll all get along ;)
In all honesty, I’d be curious to see what you guys can do alone in FCS (like NDSU was). I think that would be interesting ...

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Originally Posted by NDSUstudent

Maybe Matt would have wanted to explore CUSA, but if the president doesn't even want to go FBS what is the point? That was where we were at that time.

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That's a very valid point. However, a $54 million dollar football practice facility with leadership with no desire for FBS probably warrants some criticism. The ROI of that facility without an FBS move is very questionable.