A new and better FBS thread

Being a FB only affiliate is a fantasy from the FBS or Bust crowd that know but won't admit our Olympic sports aren't up to FBS conference standards. Rather than improve our sports they'd prefer to blame the flavor of the week for why we haven't gotten an invite.

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Originally Posted by El_Chapo

might as well combine them now.
NDSU gets football basketball teams
und gets hockey

might as combine the 11 other nd colleges too

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Might be where it's headed, TBH, given current trends. They could always drop back down to D2, of course.

But back to the discussion between MWC and BigHorns

"and we're not done yet" - Mike Aresco right after they raided CUSA. They are at 14 now, though, so unclear what he has in mind.

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Originally Posted by WhoRepsTheLurker

Might be where it's headed, TBH, given current trends. They could always drop back down to D2, of course.

But back to the discussion between MWC and BigHorns

"and we're not done yet" - Mike Aresco right after they raided CUSA. They are at 14 now, though, so unclear what he has in mind.

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4th of July. NDSU takes American Athletic Conference invite... I could live with that

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Originally Posted by WhoRepsTheLurker

Might be where it's headed, TBH, given current trends. They could always drop back down to D2, of course.

But back to the discussion between MWC and BigHorns

"and we're not done yet" - Mike Aresco right after they raided CUSA. They are at 14 now, though, so unclear what he has in mind.

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Another recent quote from Aresco "“How big can conferences grow before they’re not even conferences anymore?” Aresco said. “They’re basically leagues with divisions. I don’t necessarily subscribe to the notion that there’s going to be four 16-team conferences"

AAC was initially targeting MWC schools, and that could have created an interesting cascade for us.

Now, my guess is they stay put until either Big 12 raids them again (Memphis, USF are thought to be possible), or when their media contract expires and gets reworked. I could see Big 12 adding two more once the dust settles and OU/Texas depart for the SEC. Bowlsby has aluded to this. That could trigger another round, with possible openings in either MWC or AAC.

I wouldn't expect any significant action this year though ... the conferences are all sort of processing/digesting the last round of moves.

if the Big 12 keeps bleeding that might be NDSU'S best shot

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Originally Posted by El_Chapo

if the Big 12 keeps bleeding that might be NDSU'S best shot

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IMO, if they continue to bleed teams they're probably the conference that is most likely to take a program based on the quality of their football. Still, they'd have to fall a far, far ways to take a school with a 20k indoor stadium in Fargo, ND.

Regardless, the Big 12 getting picked apart would be VERY good for our chances of moving up.

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Originally Posted by NDSU92

IMO, if they continue to bleed teams they're probably the conference that is most likely to take a program based on the quality of their football. Still, they'd have to fall a far, far ways to take a school with a 20k indoor stadium in Fargo, ND.

Regardless, the Big 12 getting picked apart would be VERY good for our chances of moving up.

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If BIG 12 came to NDSU & said. "build a 45,000 stadium and you're in"

would NDSU/Fargo actually do it?

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Originally Posted by El_Chapo

If BIG 12 came to NDSU & said. "build a 45,000 stadium and you're in"

would NDSU/Fargo actually do it?

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Only if the rest of the state would pay for it eh.

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Originally Posted by scottietohottie

Only if the rest of the state would pay for it eh.

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With all the oil money!!!! Harumph!

To be fair, if NDSU could raise around $500M+ for a 45k seat indoor stadium on short notice that would draw the attention of a lot of conferences.

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Originally Posted by taper

To be fair, if NDSU could raise around $500M+ for a 45k seat indoor stadium on short notice that would draw the attention of a lot of conferences.

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All that matters are TV/streaming eyeballs. Everything is a content play. Streaming and the balkanization of what used to be cable may actually be a good thing for programs like NDSU though because I think our fans are much more engaged than most of our competitors and therefore more monitizeable.

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Originally Posted by taper

To be fair, if NDSU could raise around $500M+ for a 45k seat indoor stadium on short notice that would draw the attention of a lot of conferences.

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True, and if said stadium is filled with fans, would be like a Cincinnati or Houston in play for P5 invites.
I don't think B12 will sniff a school without at least 30k attendance and $50 million budget though.

Apparently there are reports of UCLA and USC moving to the B10? Hmmm

https://twitter.com/wilnerhotline/st...ad-949912.html


Your move Washington Huskies, Cal Bears, and Stanford Cardinal.

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Originally Posted by The_Sicatoka

https://twitter.com/wilnerhotline/st...ad-949912.html


Your move Washington Huskies, Cal Bears, and Stanford Cardinal.

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This is what leads us to the MWC. I'd bet five bucks

https://twitter.com/NicoleAuerbach/s...tmlpid18295573

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Originally Posted by NDSU92

This is what leads us to the MWC. I'd bet five bucks

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But what'll be left? The MWC could get WAC'd. Or ...

The Big XII and PAC remnants could align and the MWC might go untouched.


Today in a t-shirt (NSFW).

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Originally Posted by The_Sicatoka

But what'll be left?

The MWC could get WAC'd.

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The Pac 12 is losing two, maybe a couple more. They won't raid the whole MW, they'll just take the top.

Lol I'd love to get the "MWC" poster back in here. "MW has no reason to look for more teams" mmm how about now?

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Originally Posted by NDSU92

The Pac 12 is losing two, maybe a couple more. They won't raid the whole MW, they'll just take the top.

Lol I'd love to get the "MWC" poster back in here. "MW has no reason to look for more teams" mmm how about now?

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If this happens, my guess is that the PAC steals from the B12 not the MWC. If that happens then the Big12 takes from the MWC.

Or if it goes the other way and the PAC steals from the MWC that just reduces movement. Same outcome though.... 2 spots (at least) in the MWC.

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Originally Posted by The_Sicatoka

But what'll be left? The MWC could get WAC'd. Or ...

The Big XII and PAC remnants could align and the MWC might go untouched.


Today in a t-shirt (NSFW).

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Matters not. Key is to get moved up.

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Originally Posted by NDSUguy

If this happens, my guess is that the PAC steals from the B12 not the MWC. If that happens then the Big12 takes from the MWC.

Or if it goes the other way and the PAC steals from the MWC that just reduces movement. Same outcome though.... 2 spots (at least) in the MWC.

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Yep, meant "they" as in P5 conferences. Don't matter to me how, just get Boise and SDSU outta there for us :)

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Originally Posted by NDSU92

Yep, meant "they" as in P5 conferences. Don't matter to me how, just get Boise and SDSU outta there for us :)

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At what point do we stop talking about the P5 and get real about the P2?

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Originally Posted by NDSU92

This is what leads us to the MWC. I'd bet five bucks

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Why not the Pac-12??? lol

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Originally Posted by bisonaudit

At what point do we stop talking about the P5 and get real about the P2?

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You're right, probably now if we aren't already.

Wait, that means that FCS is really the "fourth" tier of college football?! Noooooooo

Washington, Stanford, and Cal won't stand idly by (or let "lessers" in).

Oregon has Nike money but no media eyeballs (by comparison).

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Originally Posted by The_Sicatoka

Washington, Stanford, and Cal won't stand idly by (or let "lessers" in).

Oregon has Nike money but no media eyeballs (by comparison).

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I mean is this where Kansas, Oklahoma State, Kansas State and Iowa State bid adieu to the B12?

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Originally Posted by NDSU92

I mean is this where Kansas, Oklahoma State, Kansas State and Iowa State bid adieu to the B12?

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Depending on Wash, Stan, Cal, and Oregon ... does the PAC fold up shop? Some go B1G and rest go Big XII?

Ohhhhh WE need PAC 10 to take

Boise and SDSU. then NDSU slides in to MWC

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Originally Posted by El_Chapo

Ohhhhh WE need PAC 10 to take

Boise and SDSU. then NDSU slides in to MWC

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Think it will be a cold day before either of them get in. PAC takes academics very seriously.

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Originally Posted by The_Sicatoka

Depending on Wash, Stan, Cal, and Oregon ... does the PAC fold up shop? Some go B1G and rest go Big XII?

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Even after losing the LA schools, the rest of the P12 is light-years more lucrative than the B12. Are those schools going to join a conference headquartered in Irving, TX with schools like Houston and Cincy in it? I have my serious doubts.

I'd think they're going to take the major state colleges from the west half of the B12 and call it a day.

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Originally Posted by ByeSonBusiness

Think it will be a cold day before either of them get in. PAC takes academics very seriously.

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Oh my god I just saw Boise's endowment. LOL even if theirs has grown in the last year ours is double that...

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Originally Posted by El_Chapo

Ohhhhh WE need PAC 10 to take

Boise and SDSU. then NDSU slides in to MWC

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If Stanford and Cal are still PAC, that ain't happening.

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Originally Posted by NDSU92

Oh my god I just saw Boise's endowment. LOL even if there's has grown in the last year ours is double that...

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Beets > Potatoes.

This will shake things up quite nicely.

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Originally Posted by El_Chapo

Ohhhhh WE need PAC 10 to take

Boise and SDSU. then NDSU slides in to MWC

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or the Montana schools. Wasn't Montana one of the charter schools in the Pac-8 many moons ago?

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Originally Posted by NDSUguy

If this happens, my guess is that the PAC steals from the B12 not the MWC. If that happens then the Big12 takes from the MWC.

Or if it goes the other way and the PAC steals from the MWC that just reduces movement. Same outcome though.... 2 spots (at least) in the MWC.

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Hope so, there is a risk the cascade goes: PAC -> B12 -> AAC -> SBC/CUSA
Last round when B12 got raided, the MWC was untouched, and there's thought to be 2-4 AAC teams that may jump to B12.

Just get ndsu up...at all costs now!

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Originally Posted by BigHorns

Hope so, there is a risk the cascade goes: PAC -> B12 -> AAC -> SBC/CUSA
Last round when B12 got raided, the MWC was untouched, and there's thought to be 2-4 AAC teams that may jump to B12.

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That's true... it could happen. I would be shocked if the PAC doesn't go after SDSU though to keep the SoCal presence.

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Originally Posted by NDSUguy

That's true... it could happen. I would be shocked if the PAC doesn't go after SDSU though to keep the SoCal presence.

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The UC vs CSU* bias could rear its ugly head --> UC Berkeley does not want to keep company with a CSU (San Diego State).


*Just like the UM/MnSCU thing in MN.

As seen at CSNBBS ...

Conference Realignment: It doesn't have to make sense, it just has to make money.