A new and better FBS thread

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Originally Posted by NI4NI

"The Hornets had a 3-9 record last season, finishing in a tie for last in the 12-team conference with a 1-7 mark."
I guess when you suck balls you move up to the next level. Who knew?

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NDSU announced it was moving to Division 1 in August 2002. Proceed to go 2-8 that season.

If they think they can make it work, go ahead!

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Originally Posted by Hammerhead

It really makes you wonder how coaches build teams with so many players in the portal. From the article in the link above: "More than 160 FBS scholarship quarterbacks have already transferred this offseason."

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For most of G5/G6 they are basically rebuilding their entire roster each year now.

It’s why you see teams that won their conference one year suck the following year. Winning gets the coaches and players noticed and plucked by teams higher up the ladder.

Unfortunately - I think in FBS where this is headed is the same place you see with NCAA tourney this year, where the P2/P4 dominate everything, and just buy the pieces they want from the lower level teams.

P4 are making everyone else their farm league.

Hmm. A school with a vision and the guts to go independent when their 1st (PAC), 2nd (MWC), and 3rd (any FBS Conference) choices don't come to fruition.

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Originally Posted by DePereBisonFan

Hmm. A school with a vision and the guts to go independent when their 1st (PAC), 2nd (MWC), and 3rd (any FBS Conference) choices don't come to fruition.

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Definitely a big risk, but it's ballsy. I'm rooting for it to work for them just because they're willing to take the initiative. Gonna require some big monetary commitments from their fan base.

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Originally Posted by DePereBisonFan

Hmm. A school with a vision and the guts to go independent when their 1st (PAC), 2nd (MWC), and 3rd (any FBS Conference) choices don't come to fruition.

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Originally Posted by KSBisonFan

Definitely a big risk, but it's ballsy. I'm rooting for it to work for them just because they're willing to take the initiative. Gonna require some big monetary commitments from their fan base.

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It’s worth the risk: Die quick trying it (or succeed) or die a slow death in the FCS. Only one option has upside.

Has sankey weighed in yet on sac state?

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Originally Posted by WhoRepsTheLurker

Has sankey weighed in yet on sac state?

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Not publicly, but I'd bet behind the scenes he has influence on the FBS committee that will be reviewing that waiver request. They've denied the past 2 or 3 waivers schools submitted regarding reclassification rules.

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Originally Posted by BigHorns

Not publicly, but I'd bet behind the scenes he has influence on the FBS committee that will be reviewing that waiver request. They've denied the past 2 or 3 waivers schools submitted regarding reclassification rules.

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What waivers were denied(at least in effect)? UAC was "denied" a new single sport FB conference but they did it anyway and was given an autobid. James Madison was "denied" bowl eligibility in their 2nd year, but was invited to a bowl anyway.

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Originally Posted by DePereBisonFan

Hmm. A school with a vision and the guts to go independent when their 1st (PAC), 2nd (MWC), and 3rd (any FBS Conference) choices don't come to fruition.

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Originally Posted by KSBisonFan

Definitely a big risk, but it's ballsy. I'm rooting for it to work for them just because they're willing to take the initiative. Gonna require some big monetary commitments from their fan base.

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We are in a completely different situation than Sacramento State

We are one of the most dominant programs in college football history with 10 FCS National Championships and 8 D2 National Championships

Sacramento State has made the playoffs 7 times in their entire history and have won 4 playoff games all time, 2 at the FCS level . Their all time winning % is .443

We play games on ABC virtually every year, 5 since 2019 and get millions of viewers in ABC and ESPN. Now we even get 1 regular season conference game on an ESPN Network

Sac State is never on TV

We have something to lose. They have nothing to lose

Sac State has a solid fan base but donors aren't interested in stepping up unless they move up. I think they are doing the right thing.

We will move up someday, but not without some sort of conference, whether it's the MW or a newly formed conference

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Originally Posted by HerdBot

We are in a completely different situation than Sacramento State

We are one of the most dominant programs in college football history with 10 FCS National Championships and 8 D2 National Championships

Sacramento State has made the playoffs 7 times in their entire history and have won 4 playoff games all time, 2 at the FCS level . Their all time winning % is .443

We play games on ABC virtually every year, 5 since 2019 and get millions of viewers in ABC and ESPN. Now we even get 1 regular season conference game on an ESPN Network

Sac State is never on TV

We have something to lose. They have nothing to lose

Sac State has a solid fan base but donors aren't interested in stepping up unless they move up. I think they are doing the right thing.

We will move up someday, but not without some sort of conference, whether it's the MW or a newly formed conference

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I disagree. I think you are overvaluing those things, and those same things you stated are reasons why a Sac St move might work for us better than it would work for them. And if they can make it work, there is no reason why we couldn’t also.

Additionally, you go Indy to get a conference invite. We have been told that the only reason we didn’t get an invite this round is because of the “FCS label.” A move to Indy FBS solves that problem.